Girls Development Academy

Well that is even more of a unicorn situation. what percentage of the uswnt wasn't identified as a top player by the age of 16?

I agree, seems like the US women head coaches like to ID talent at a young age. Then fast track the most promising to the Sr team. Think Mallory Pugh, Ashley Sanchez, Brianna Pinto and Jaelin Howell. There are few who get a call up late like Rose LaVelle though.
 
At least you have a plan.

True cautionary tale. I heard of a parent a few years back. She had a U12/13 DD who was a GK and had a son playing club soccer too. The parent got so caught up and lost all perspective. She had both kids home schooled, so they could have more time training on their soccer game. I never heard what happened to those kids, but I did know at the time they were both "NOT" YNT players. She was a poster on the old forum format.

This is COMMON at our age group. Also they all have instagrams and work with trainers who then film and try to promote their centers etc. is all extremely common now!!!
 
So where are all your kids in the process? Are they at universities? Are they looking at going pro? How are they feeling about their soccer careers when looking back!

Mine is playing in college on a pretty good team at a pretty good school in a pretty nice state. Looking back at her soccer career, she feels pretty good about it. She has more that she wants to accomplish like winning an NCAA title like pulgita's dd. She might want to play in the U20 WWC but only if she doesn't miss more than a game or two of college. She might want to play a year of pro soccer before finishing grad school but that would likely be in England. She will probably be a first round NWSL draft pick, but likely would still go abroad if she isn't in the pipeline for the full WNT by then. School is her priority which is why she is carrying a 3.9 GPA even while playing over 1800 minutes as a freshman.

My baby loves soccer but because she has had to work really hard to get where she is, she is realistic about the WNT. Her birth year already has it's purple unicorn.

Good luck to you and your player.
 
How amazing. People actually understand the purpose of the DA model, and the consequences. Like most situations, when the organization's goals are aligned with yours, all is great. And at this point, with everything new and mostly unknown, people are transferring their own desires onto the GDA, and claiming what an amazing concept and success it is.

While control and money are always a motivation, their primary goal is producing a winning USWNT/USMNT, regardless of the impact on individual players, teams, clubs, schools, colleges or any other outside groups. We can debate whether the DA structure is the best way to produce that result, and opinions will vary. But it is good to see people are not ignoring the unintended (and often intended) consequences.
WHO is calling GDA a success? Real curious what makes you say this.
 
WHO is calling GDA a success? Real curious what makes you say this.

Really -- just browse these boards and read the glowing reports. Training is incredible, techincal skills valued over athleticism, coaches have seen the light and do not care about results, teams singing Kumbaya at the end of each practice, tournamanets only held in ideal temperatures on perfect fields, commute times down to nothing, every other team and league decimated, free soccer for the "best of the best" (copyright Surf Cup 2004).
 
Funny. It hasn't even started yet! Could it be that you are drawing conclusions, based on people's expressed optimism? I've been reading all over this forum, and no, I have not read anyone saying GDA is a "success"
 
Awesome cause I just want good conversation and information.

There is a gigantic drop off between the Academy team we are on now and the SCSDL Tier 1 squad we were on last season for a few reasons and athleticism isn't even the highest. With a lot of people scrambling to find an Academy the selection process seems to have been more selective and refined. I am seeing these differences:

1. Players with better attitudes towards teamwork (less drama so far). Fingers crossed. The girls are really working for each other and the game play style is more "advanced" in my opinion.

2. Players with higher soccer IQs. This is leading to more robust and intense practice sessions focused on real development of the team and not just select players. The pace is vastly increased mentally and physically and the A level coaching is more direct and clear. Classroom workdays and physical fitness only days allow for growth to occur off the field also.

My DD hasn't been this happy as a player who loves to learn the game and play with other smart players in years. Just dropped her off and her excitement level for her 3rd practice of the week was just as high as the first day. She loves the challenge.

@Kicknit22

Funny. It hasn't even started yet! Could it be that you are drawing conclusions, based on people's expressed optimism? I've been reading all over this forum, and no, I have not read anyone saying GDA is a "success"

I quoted a post that contradicts this statement and it is a couple posts before yours. My question is are you being disingenuous, sinister or lazy?
 
Mine is playing in college on a pretty good team at a pretty good school in a pretty nice state. Looking back at her soccer career, she feels pretty good about it. She has more that she wants to accomplish like winning an NCAA title like pulgita's dd. She might want to play in the U20 WWC but only if she doesn't miss more than a game or two of college. She might want to play a year of pro soccer before finishing grad school but that would likely be in England. She will probably be a first round NWSL draft pick, but likely would still go abroad if she isn't in the pipeline for the full WNT by then. School is her priority which is why she is carrying a 3.9 GPA even while playing over 1800 minutes as a freshman.

My baby loves soccer but because she has had to work really hard to get where she is, she is realistic about the WNT. Her birth year already has it's purple unicorn.

Good luck to you and your player.

Thank you and WOW! That is great to hear. I mean the grades and the success on the field at that level. From my extremely outside view, I could see many deserving players not being on the radar for WNT. Those players on the team seem pretty engrained with very little influx of fresh talent except for the last 1.5 years.

Appreciate the best wishes.
 
This is COMMON at our age group. Also they all have instagrams and work with trainers who then film and try to promote their centers etc. is all extremely common now!!!

Alright. Here is where it gets good. I am as old as the people with kids in college, but started with kids later. I'm old school, but realize that the club scene is rapidly changing from what we blindly leaped into 6-7 years ago.

The saying is the more things change, the more they stay the same. That is where we have to navigate this journey with our kids by using the advise of the vets while keeping up with the ever changing parameters our younger kids are facing that weren't there even 2, 3, 4 years ago.

This reminds me of what we saw in basketball a few years back when kids were jumping straight to the NBA from high school and even with the age limit they have now. The player who stayed in college for 3-4 years quickly went from the highest valued commodity to a near after thought. They became "kids not good enough to go pro early" and not young adults "getting a great education, maturing and enjoying life before entering the real world". Look at the upcoming NBA draft and everyone in the top 15 is one and done, two and done or foreign players.

Now I'm not saying that our girls are to that point or even close. The boys are starting to get there with the MLS Homegrown movement and Mexican teams snatching up our kids for their leagues second teams. Please don't think I'm smoking crack this early in the morning. What I'm saying is it seems to me that we are hitting a major shift in the landscape like that and there are a few factors speeding up the process.

1. High school is a mess just like it was for us, but 24 hour social media has really expanded the mess. Charter schools and independent study is becoming a real option for kids who don't have great public schools or private schools available or desired and even for those who do. Add in those looking to achieve in sports and can add physical training to the regiment and the appeal is there. This has been the case for football and basketball for over a decade and soccer is just joining the frey. With the addition of the DA and no high school soccer, there is even less incentive to stay in the crazy high school environment with less concentrated learning curriculums.

Gaining social skills for future jobs is quickly becoming the best reason to keep a kid in a traditional high school.

2. Club soccer isn't really local anymore. Kids don't play with the same kids they go to school with nearly as much as they previously did. For many of us to find the right teams for our kids, we travel far outside of the neighborhood for the everyday team. The kids intermingle their school circle with the team circle through social media and people who have never met are starting to know who each other and hang out on friend trips to the theme parks. Just having high school friends isn't as important as it was.

My son's team is off the 710/60/10. We all are coming from San Fernando Valley, San Diego, Inland Empire and even one kid from above Bakersfield. The reach of this club is amazing because we ALL pass two or three other high level clubs/DAs to get there. If you asked me 3 years ago I would have bet any amount of money that our family wouldn't do this.

My girls' team is fielding kids from the IE, OC, and San Fernando Valley and it's in the north LA area. Now the reach isn't as large here because the $ investment from the club isn't the same (no billionaire owner with multimillionaire investors), but the curriculum and dedication from the club is the same making it ultra attractive. Having a current D1 coach come run a practice and see your DD up close is the exposure we all are looking for.

With the DA here I think we may be building new roads to get to the same ole destination. The WPSL and overseas pro leagues are options after college for more players. Hopefully they continue to grow and expand so more girls can actually play longer and financially reap the benefits too.

I think the last old school part to change will be the national teams. Like you guys said, they identify young and don't expand that search to later developing players often. Plus it's hard to force change when your team is always top 3 in the world. The only country I have ever seen revamp and reinvent its youth system while still an international power was Germany on the men's side 10-12 years ago.
 
Hey I wanted to thank you all in this thread. This damn soccer journey is not something I planned on as a parent and discussing the different points of view without tearing down each others kids is really helpful in seeing the big picture.
 
Disclaimer alert -
I speak of the DA as a success for my kids. One who has done it for 3+ years and the other of course just starting and seeing the benefits immediately. Opinions and results may vary.

@C.A.M. I like your spunk and focus on your players. Good work. I'm not enamored with your daughters club if it is the one that I think that it is, but your approach to navigating this crazy landscape is the right way to go about it. Keep up the great work!
 
Thank you and WOW! That is great to hear. I mean the grades and the success on the field at that level. From my extremely outside view, I could see many deserving players not being on the radar for WNT. Those players on the team seem pretty engrained with very little influx of fresh talent except for the last 1.5 years.

Appreciate the best wishes.

The grades were always what I focused on. She loves the soccer but here journey was one that was filled with a lot of hard work. It built up her character though and is the reason why college has been such an easy transition for her. She was one of those kids that once she committed to her school she wanted to do everything that she could to make an impact once she got there. Her school is one that is super competitive so in order to see the field you not only have to be talented but you have to fight through the Hunger Games to see the field. Although that type of an environment isn't for everyone because of the hard work she has always had to put in during her journey she thrives in it. It's to the point now that when she watches most college teams and pretty much all club teams play she thinks that they play "too slow." I'm looking forward to a pretty amazing season this year. Good luck to you and your players.
 
Anyone seeing 2017/18 DA laws of the game? I'm wondering what the official word is going to be on high school play and if it will differ for the girls than the boys.
 
From: http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-academy-faqs

Are the rules & regulations exactly the same as the boys' DA?
The Academy program has been developed over time to create the ideal everyday environment for player development. The Academy has continually grown and adapted over the 9 years of existence and will use key learnings and best practices for the girls' program. The vast majority of the current Academy rules and regulations will be the same. The Girls' Development Academy staff will create or modify any rules or regulations as deemed necessary.
 
Anyone seeing 2017/18 DA laws of the game? I'm wondering what the official word is going to be on high school play and if it will differ for the girls than the boys.

The official word, although I cannot show you anything official, is that girls can play only high school soccer next year and then no more. Many DA teams are officially not allowing the this official rule.
 
I was old that it is up to the club to allow for it for the DA, but it is highly suggested by US Soccer for them not to play high school.

I'm wondering if it will be like the current rule for boys where it has to be for a kid getting assistance to go to school and playing is mandatory at the school is a stipulation of the assistance. In those cases the player still has to get 25% of the starts, but cannot re-enter the Academy system once he plays high school.
 
@Kicknit22



I quoted a post that contradicts this statement and it is a couple posts before yours. My question is are you being disingenuous, sinister or lazy?
Well, smack my ass and call me Susan. I guess I'll have to go with lazy. While C.A.M. certainly sounds like it's a success at his club or at least for his DD, I don't see a contradiction to my statement. I hear optimism, that's all. At most, an appreciation for a different structure. But "it's a success!", No.
 
Well, smack my ass and call me Susan. I guess I'll have to go with lazy. While C.A.M. certainly sounds like it's a success at his club or at least for his DD, I don't see a contradiction to my statement. I hear optimism, that's all. At most, an appreciation for a different structure. But "it's a success!", No.

Look I am the first person to say that the season hasn't happened yet so it is hard to judge the results. At the same time it's hard to deny that there are an extremely hard core group of pro-GDA parents that have been posting about how "different" everything is and how they have seen "growth" from their player already. If you look around hard enough you will find plenty of claims. I guess that we will see the evidence soon enough. I am eagerly awaiting it. Good luck to you and your player.
 
She might want to play a year of pro soccer before finishing grad school but that would likely be in England.

It is extremely difficult to for an American to play pro soccer in England...she should start researching what paperwork she needs now as it could take some time...
 
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