Girls Development Academy

Sandypk said:
What club does your dd play for? Question: Can ECNL players make a switch right now to a non-ECNL team before National Cup and during the last few games of CRL? That can make a huge impact for some already good teams. Another question is: What team will these top ECNL players join? And: Will they stop their long commutes and return home to a closer club? I guess time will tell... I actually can't wait to see it all unfold from the sidelines.
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Antecdotal so take it with grain of salt
1. Several teams have brought players into their teams for last games of CRL
It isn't against the rules which I found odd but oh well. If they are "on the team" they can play
2. The current ECNL teams are either being offered DA spot and stay or not. Due to the fact that these are middle schoolers I think majority are going DA because we don't have to make a choice until 9th grade anyway.
3. They are going closer to homes. They are getting big scholarships and some people don't want to play for certain coaches at big name clubs which is why they are leaving. We are not talking about a few either- it's substantial and dust has already settled and those girls are talking to other DA.
What I am trying to say is that everything that has been said-
- the top clubs will still be top clubs
-people will want to go to proven clubs
- ecnl will still be a great league

Is being openly and rashly challenged by the parents. People I NEVER thought would go to Pats are getting full ride and going. Legends has secured TOP talent.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I agree. With the way things are headed it seems that it is clear that the elite players are going to get a free ride on the backs of everyone else. It's sad to say but that isn't much different than in corporate America. Warren Buffet makes about 10,000 times what his highly paid secretary makes yet pays a lower percentage of taxes. Great players now are going to get a free ride and better college offers. That's pretty gangster...
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Warren Buffet is a dick, that's a different thing. People with more average players won't keep doing this if they are clearly being told that their kids have no importance or chane. We will go back to small local clubs, that's probably a good thing.

I've had kids in this since the mid 2000's. Things have really changed and not for the better.

Sorry, that college stuff is mostly bs for most kids.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I agree. With the way things are headed it seems that it is clear that the elite players are going to get a free ride on the backs of everyone else. It's sad to say but that isn't much different than in corporate America. Warren Buffet makes about 10,000 times what his highly paid secretary makes yet pays a lower percentage of taxes. Great players now are going to get a free ride and better college offers. That's pretty gangster...
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No different than AAU. That's where we are headed.
Totally gangster- know one parent who got 2k from a certain club and called another and said hey you can have her for full ride and went. People are ABSOLUTELY aging for full ride thing. Of course clubs are doing usual cloak and mirrors game too- "I can give you 2kbut don't tell anyone"..
again buyer beware. Like I said I want to see the B team ECNL faces when they see the sticker price UNLESS ECNL will decrease the fees this year
 
Round said:
Warren Buffet is a dick, that's a different thing. People with more average players won't keep doing this if they are clearly being told that their kids have no importance or chane. We will go back to small local clubs, that's probably a good thing.

I've had kids in this since the mid 2000's. Things have really changed and not for the better.

Sorry, that college stuff is mostly bs for most kids.
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Agree a lot. Also agree though with people being honest because these clubs only exist because we do this- we say yes I am buying into the fact that my kid at 14 is going to "move up". That's not healthy either to continually do this to kids.
I see it every year club hoppers, new coaches etc.
Find a coach who believes in your daughter and go from there.
If you are bored on Netflix watch "AT ALL COSTS" . It's an eye opener.
I personally do not see anything wrong with going back to the ONE REGIONAL TEAM OF ELITE PLAYERS with a strong id program in place.
The poll is diluted now. It just is and it's weird that no one is seeing or saying that yet...
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Antecdotal so take it with grain of salt
1. Several teams have brought players into their teams for last games of CRL
It isn't against the rules which I found odd but oh well. If they are "on the team" they can play
2. The current ECNL teams are either being offered DA spot and stay or not. Due to the fact that these are middle schoolers I think majority are going DA because we don't have to make a choice until 9th grade anyway.
3. They are going closer to homes. They are getting big scholarships and some people don't want to play for certain coaches at big name clubs which is why they are leaving. We are not talking about a few either- it's substantial and dust has already settled and those girls are talking to other DA.
What I am trying to say is that everything that has been said-
- the top clubs will still be top clubs
-people will want to go to proven clubs
- ecnl will still be a great league

Is being openly and rashly challenged by the parents. People I NEVER thought would go to Pats are getting full ride and going. Legends has secured TOP talent.
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Perhaps it is being challenged but a free Hyundai is still a Hyundai and not a Lexus. Hodges may try to comp all the talent that he wants to but players that can't play quality soccer are cycled out of the YNT and don't play a lot in college. A diamond is still a diamond and a cubic zirconia may look like a diamond and the price may be right but it isn't a diamond. I guess if you mix a few diamonds in you can fool people. You just can't fool them when it matters like when they are playing against real ones.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Perhaps it is being challenged but a free Hyundai is still a Hyundai and not a Lexus. Hodges may try to comp all the talent that he wants to but players that can't play quality soccer are cycled out of the YNT and don't play a lot in college. A diamond is still a diamond and a cubic zirconia may look like a diamond and the price may be right but it isn't a diamond. I guess if you mix a few diamonds in you can fool people. You just can't fool them when it matters like when they are playing against real ones.
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Love you but you don't know whose coaching at the "bigs"
A free Hyundai for a year is better than a gutted out Mercedes just saying...and a smart consumer knows that 7 and 8 graders still got a tad bit of time. Plus most of them have private trainers anyway so it washes out
 
ESPNANALYST said:
Agree a lot. Also agree though with people being honest because these clubs only exist because we do this- we say yes I am buying into the fact that my kid at 14 is going to "move up". That's not healthy either to continually do this to kids.
I see it every year club hoppers, new coaches etc.
Find a coach who believes in your daughter and go from there.
If you are bored on Netflix watch "AT ALL COSTS" . It's an eye opener.
I personally do not see anything wrong with going back to the ONE REGIONAL TEAM OF ELITE PLAYERS with a strong id program in place.
The poll is diluted now. It just is and it's weird that no one is seeing or saying that yet...
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Great post I agree 100%. Like Kevin Spacey said in THE USUAL SUSPECTS, "the greatest trick that the devil pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist."
 
Sandypk said:
What club does your dd play for? Question: Can ECNL players make a switch right now to a non-ECNL team before National Cup and during the last few games of CRL? That can make a huge impact for some already good teams. Another question is: What team will these top ECNL players join? And: Will they stop their long commutes and return home to a closer club? I guess time will tell... I actually can't wait to see it all unfold from the sidelines.
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Players and parents commuting will probably not play for a club closer to home. They commute for a reason, stronger club brand, a certain coach, stronger history of getting girls college offers, etc.
 
NoGoal said:
Players and parents commuting will probably not play for a club closer to home. They commute for a reason, stronger club brand, a certain coach, stronger history of getting girls college offers, etc.
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Some might even start commuting, if the Girls DA club is "FREE".
 
All of the NorCal ECNL clubs pulled out of the DA. In NorCal it is going to be a bunch of less successful clubs (other than PSV Union) leading development. What a crazy turf war.
 
NorCal thinks they have it all figured out, and are digging their heels in. I think some of the clubs that declined think they can always pick up a DA later if it looks like ECNL isn't cutting it, but I'm not so sure that's the case. At any rate, NorCal ECNL will probably be more competitive given many other ECNL teams will be "B" teams.
 
MakeAPlay said:
All of the NorCal ECNL clubs pulled out of the DA. In NorCal it is going to be a bunch of less successful clubs (other than PSV Union) leading development. What a crazy turf war.
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What club(s) backed out? What is the indication of success and why can't the GDA clubs meet, or reach/exceed the same success? If ECNL/YNT/ODP/D1 are a measure of success, I am sure many of the NorCal kids that got to that level came from what you categorize as less successful clubs before they moved to an ECNL club (since ECNL was the highest level).

Bananacorner said:
NorCal thinks they have it all figured out, and are digging their heels in. I think some of the clubs that declined think they can always pick up a DA later if it looks like ECNL isn't cutting it, but I'm not so sure that's the case. At any rate, NorCal ECNL will probably be more competitive given many other ECNL teams will be "B" teams.
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Many of the best girls will most likely leave ECNL clubs for GDA clubs. Same question - which ECNL clubs declined GDA in NorCal?
 
Mustang dropped first, then Burlingame/MVLA became just Burlingame (MVLA was hedging by partnering with Burlingame, and then dropped?)
DeAnza is hard to figure out what they are doing, sounds like their DA will be part of Portland Thorns (called California Thorns)
Davis Legacy got DA, then got ECNL, then seemed to drop DA and instead there is "California Storm" DA up there.
 
Bananacorner said:
Mustang dropped first, then Burlingame/MVLA became just Burlingame (MVLA was hedging by partnering with Burlingame, and then dropped?)
DeAnza is hard to figure out what they are doing, sounds like their DA will be part of Portland Thorns (called California Thorns)
Davis Legacy got DA, then got ECNL, then seemed to drop DA and instead there is "California Storm" DA up there.
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Thanks.
 
MakeAPlay said:
All of the NorCal ECNL clubs pulled out of the DA. In NorCal it is going to be a bunch of less successful clubs (other than PSV Union) leading development. What a crazy turf war.
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PSV is going to have problems competing outside of NorCal in the DA. Their coach is really abrasive and rubs many people the wrong way. Many players and parents can't handle him and end up leaving the club. Because of this, they never have enough players to form a full team at each age group. Their teams usually have many girls that are rostered on multiple teams across age groups and are playing 1 or 2 years up so that their teams can have enough players. That is not a good recipe for success, especially at the younger ages, when they will now have to compete nationally. The rest of the NorCal DA clubs haven't had much history of success and 2 of them are brand new, created just for the DA. I don't hear much talk from ECNL families in NorCal of moving their players to the DA. It looks to me that NorCal DA teams are going to be in a world of hurt when they compete out of NorCal next year.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
What club(s) backed out? What is the indication of success and why can't the GDA clubs meet, or reach/exceed the same success? If ECNL/YNT/ODP/D1 are a measure of success, I am sure many of the NorCal kids that got to that level came from what you categorize as less successful clubs before they moved to an ECNL club (since ECNL was the highest level).



Many of the best girls will most likely leave ECNL clubs for GDA clubs. Same question - which ECNL clubs declined GDA in NorCal?
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What makes you so sure that they came from less successful clubs? ECNL has done a great job of developing players in SoCal. In the most recent two graduating classes very few players who are having success post club are from non-ECNL clubs and that is a fact.
 
MakeAPlay said:
What makes you so sure that they came from less successful clubs? ECNL has done a great job of developing players in SoCal. In the most recent two graduating classes very few players who are having success post club are from non-ECNL clubs and that is a fact.
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That is not a fact. That is your presumption, and that is a fact. Lol
 
MakeAPlay said:
What makes you so sure that they came from less successful clubs? ECNL has done a great job of developing players in SoCal. In the most recent two graduating classes very few players who are having success post club are from non-ECNL clubs and that is a fact.
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I don't because I don't believe in your definition of what makes a less successful club. I do know many ECNL players joined ECNL from non-ECNL clubs.

ECNL develops nothing - it provides a competition platform (maybe it's iD program does 'some' development). Yes, of course successful players are on ECNL clubs because that is (was) the top tier so best players play there to play against the best. What standards does ECNL enforce on clubs other than competition rules?
 
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