Girls Development Academy

[NoGoal]

Funny, so I need to look for a da club somewhere near North OC, any suggestions?

There isn't a Girls DA in the North OC. The club soccer landscape is already changing from when my DD committed a couple of years ago. If your DD is on a YNT pool, she doesn't have to play DA, because college coaches will recruit from the YNT games and scrimmages. It's the golden ticket!

In 2 years the Cal South ODP team, ID2, US Soccer training accolades will probably fade like the boys side did, because of DA restrictions. With Girls DA playing restrictions. There will be less accolades outside of YNT pool/player. The club players will have a tougher time distinguishing themselves in their player resume from another Girls DA player and there 11 Girls DA clubs in SoCal now. So, I would recommend having your DD play for Blues, Slammers or Surf, maybe even Galaxy if it's fully funded. The big name clubs have major pull attracting college coaches. Those clubs are like the luxury auto brand maker of club soccer. Sure a Cadillac is nice, but I would still want a Benz over a Cadillac.

 

[MakeAPlay]

There isn't a Girls DA in the North OC. The club soccer landscape is already changing from when my DD committed a couple of years ago. If your DD is on a YNT pool, she doesn't have to play DA, because college coaches will recruit from the YNT games and scrimmages. It's the golden ticket!

In 2 years the Cal South ODP team, ID2, US Soccer training accolades will probably fade like the boys side did, because of DA restrictions. With Girls DA playing restrictions. There will be less accolades outside of YNT pool/player. The club players will have a tougher time distinguishing themselves in their player resume from another Girls DA player and there 11 Girls DA clubs in SoCal now. So, I would recommend having your DD play for Blues, Slammers or Surf, maybe even Galaxy if it's fully funded. The big name clubs have major pull attracting college coaches. Those clubs are like the luxury auto brand maker of club soccer. Sure a Cadillac is nice, but I would still want a Benz over a Cadillac.

I agree 98%. It depends upon the Benz and depends upon the Cadillac. Teams recruit for need just like teams in the NFL draft for need and people primarily buy cars for need. If I have 4 kids there is no way that you are selling me an SLR Benz no matter how nice it is. You will however sell me an Escalade. Although aren't Benz Sprinter Vans the new status symbol vehicle among us soccer moms these days?

 

[NoGoal]

I agree 98%. It depends upon the Benz and depends upon the Cadillac. Teams recruit for need just like teams in the NFL draft for need and people primarily buy cars for need. If I have 4 kids there is no way that you are selling me an SLR Benz no matter how nice it is. You will however sell me an Escalade. Although aren't Benz Sprinter Vans the new status symbol vehicle among us soccer moms these days?

If anyone can afford an SLR AMG, they can also afford the Benz Sprinter van The van is so ugly though.

The Benz GLE and GLS are also sweet for a big family.

 

[eastbaysoccer]

Academic rankings are important, but not everything. Some of the top schools don't offer the types of degrees that some players want (like kinesiology). In most cases for undergraduate degrees the amount of effort put in matters more than the academic rating.

It's who you know not where you go once you have experience int he work world. I know plenty of successful CAL state grads.

 

[genesis]

Yeah, I heard Arsenal opted out.

Hehe

 

[Swoosh]

How do I get my kid on the Mexican ECNL?

 

[eastbaysoccer]

How do I get my kid on the Mexican ECNL?

Isn't mexican ecnl playing college soccer? something US soccer is at odds with.

 

[eastbaysoccer]

The U20 team is knocked out of the U20 world cup by North Korea and were outshot 25 to single digits.

The DA is as good as dead now. Many forums are calling for a house cleaning today.

In theory the DA was a great idea but with no financial support from US Soccer and boneheaded upper leaderships this really never had a chance.

 

[Kicker4Life]

US soccer needs an overhaul starting at the top!!!

 

[Justafan]

The U20 team is knocked out of the U20 world cup by North Korea and were outshot 25 to single digits.

The DA is as good as dead now. Many forums are calling for a house cleaning today.

In theory the DA was a great idea but with no financial support from US Soccer and boneheaded upper leaderships this really never had a chance.

They were also outplayed by Mexico for about 85 minutes.

 

[timbuck]

The U20 team is knocked out of the U20 world cup by North Korea and were outshot 25 to single digits.

The DA is as good as dead now. Many forums are calling for a house cleaning today.

In theory the DA was a great idea but with no financial support from US Soccer and boneheaded upper leaderships this really never had a chance.

Huh? This was the Womens U20 team. There is not a female DA yet. It starts in 2017. Can't blame the US WOMENS YNT losses on the Development Academy. If anything, this is a reason to say that "ECNL isn't working."
Now - you can blame the failure to qualify for the olympics and failures for the mens/boys YNT on DA. Just now the girlsl (yet).

 

[Lone Wolf]

Posted this on the 04 group but want thoughts on this as well.........My 2cents Hoping after this meeting in Chicago US Soccer realizes what a huge mistake they made by combining the age groups AGAIN. I think there is a very good chance they make a change back to age pure as that is the only way they can take down ECNL. To many very good 04's will jump to a ECNL team (depending on distance) if this doesn't happen is my educated guess. I know 95% of the 04 age group hopes this happens and US Soccer makes this easy correction. If so all will be good with the world.

 

[Kicknit22]

Posted this on the 04 group but want thoughts on this as well.........My 2cents Hoping after this meeting in Chicago US Soccer realizes what a huge mistake they made by combining the age groups AGAIN. I think there is a very good chance they make a change back to age pure as that is the only way they can take down ECNL. To many very good 04's will jump to a ECNL team (depending on distance) if this doesn't happen is my educated guess. I know 95% of the 04 age group hopes this happens and US Soccer makes this easy correction. If so all will be good with the world.

Please explain how this is the ONLY way to take down ECNL?

 

[NoGoal]

Huh? This was the Womens U20 team. There is not a female DA yet. It starts in 2017. Can't blame the US WOMENS YNT losses on the Development Academy. If anything, this is a reason to say that "ECNL isn't working."
Now - you can blame the failure to qualify for the olympics and failures for the mens/boys YNT on DA. Just now the girlsl (yet).

The issue are not the players. It's the YNT head coaches, the player selection, who and how they play them in their tactical formation. Not to mention, they don't know how to play and teach possession soccer. The YNT coaches have been training the U17 and U20 teams for the past 2 years....so yes, US Womens Soccer needs to take responsibility for their recent failures.

Now US soccer wants to implement their best practice training programs at each girls DA clubs. The same best practice which hasn't been bearing fruit. Parents should have doubt about US soccer best practices.

I want to know why Michelle French didn't play a midfielder who knows how to boss the midfield and a midfielder who can pull the strings. Instead it was always get the ball to the forwards Ashley, Mallory and Scarpa and go at it yourselves.

 

[eastbaysoccer]

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/club...clubs-reconsider-decline-girls-da-membership/

Things are starting to unravel. As soon as a big power in the SW leaves the DA this thing ends before it starts.

.......I agree on the YNT coaches. Gotta go. All of them.

 

[soccerobserver]

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/club...clubs-reconsider-decline-girls-da-membership/

Things are starting to unravel. As soon as a big power in the SW leaves the DA this thing ends before it starts.

.......I agree on the YNT coaches. Gotta go. All of them.

Thanks EastBayS...The comments from OK were telling and seem really practical...just curious for those who are in the know...how many ECNL clubs have excellent B teams in the same age group? In my neck of the woods, my observation has been that kids --especially ambitious parents-- desperately want their kid to be on the A team and will leave the club rather than play on a B team if they truly have talent. It seems that if a club does not have ECNL then DA makes sense but if the club is ECNL it will be a challenge to support a truly elite second team.

Further, if Suzy Cupcakes wants to be DA will she leave her ECNL team for a rival DA team bc her legacy club would not promote her to DA? S0mething will have to give... in sports talent is distributed along a bell curve...if you distribute the top 2% of players over a 40% increase in the number of "elite" teams then something has to give...also bc DA expanded the number of participating clubs the increase in "elite" teams is probably over 100% per age band chasing the same 2% of players on the elite tail end of the bell curve...

Same as it ever was? After this massive dilutions sets in I wonder if the top clubs in the land will continue to be the top clubs in the land just as the top clubs from old CSL Premier seem to be the top clubs in the new leagues. Maybe the new paradigm will be kids just following successful coaches regardless of the league they play in. Coaches with the best Rolodex of college coaches, whose teams get into the the best college showcases and whose teams consistently perform well against top teams regardless of the league. In other words same as it ever was.

 

[Lambchop]

Thanks EastBayS...The comments from OK were telling and seem really practical...just curious for those who are in the know...how many ECNL clubs have excellent B teams in the same age group? In my neck of the woods, my observation has been that kids --especially ambitious parents-- desperately want their kid to be on the A team and will leave the club rather than play on a B team if they truly have talent. It seems that if a club does not have ECNL then DA makes sense but if the club is ECNL it will be a challenge to support a truly elite second team.

Further, if Suzy Cupcakes wants to be DA will she leave her ECNL team for a rival DA team bc her legacy club would not promote her to DA? S0mething will have to give... in sports talent is distributed along a bell curve...if you distribute the top 2% of players over a 40% increase in the number of "elite" teams then something has to give...also bc DA expanded the number of participating clubs the increase in "elite" teams is probably over 100% per age band chasing the same 2% of players on the elite tail end of the bell curve...

Same as it ever was? After this massive dilutions sets in I wonder if the top clubs in the land will continue to be the top clubs in the land just as the top clubs from old CSL Premier seem to be the top clubs in the new leagues. Maybe the new paradigm will be kids just following successful coaches regardless of the league they play in. Coaches with the best Rolodex of college coaches, whose teams get into the the best college showcases and whose teams consistently perform well against top teams regardless of the league. In other words same as it ever was.

Please join the twenty-first century and do not refer to girls/young women as "Suzy Cupcakes".

 

[The Driver]

They lost to a fully funded system who made it to the final to face another fully funded system.

 

[full90]

It was pretty clear watching Mexico out pass, out possess and out think our u20's that the issue is in the coaching. I knew that a moment of individual brilliance would probably still win it for us (and it did) but it was really interesting that the Mexico kids are in the same clubs and colleges as the US kids yet could play such better soccer. That point has to be crystal clear to the powers that be?

And again, we won the game, so maybe all is well in their minds, but from a US soccer fan's viewpoint, that game was really discouraging. What will it take for change to happen?

DA is not the answer. It's poorly designed and implemented and offers no hope for any change to the status quo. It was pretty telling that Heinrichs condemned ECNL for lack of great development and then anointed THOSE SAME clubs to DA. I guess the magic DA fairy dust makes those clubs and coaches just wonderful developmental programs.

 

[It won't matter later]

You really are an idiot! Learn some basic math. 1 point for each player divided by 1 point for each semester/quarter competed. 4 years = 8 semester points. If a sophomore transferred out after 2 yrs that is 4 points out of 8 = 500 APR. Then take the rest of the roster and do the same. 7-8 transfers will drop well below 990.

As for my DD committing to UDub. She isn't a YNT player and I know UCLA and Stanford recruits from the YNT team, so why bother barking up the wrong tree. Many girls committing to those schools without YNT experience will be challenged to find any pitch time. How many girls are going to beat out Mallory, Fleming and Ashley for playing time? Not many at all. Same applies for Stanford. USC, she didn't like the surrounding area outside of USC. CAL they committed 5 players in my DDs class many from Surf before the 3-4 Surf players ended up decommitting from CAL their HS Jr year.

My DD was also looking for the following, wanted to attend an out of state, large student body, academically ranked University (UDub ranked #54 by U.S. News), offers her major, cooler weather and rain doesn't bother her (she hates hot weather), team that plays the ball on the ground, large city, school with football team.

Correction to your post NG: school with a FANTASTIC football team.

And btw, anyone doubting the academic strength of UDub, just hop onto your kid's Naviance program and see how many kids from the school apply and how many get in.

And further, large public institutions are at a disadvantage with APR as many take walk-ons and they end up transferring out at a higher percentage when they realize they are not going to get time. Nothing wrong with it, but it does skew the APR.