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socalkdg said:
Having a 10 year old, I'll take just being able to watch my kid play soccer into her college years. I think any parents that have been able to have this come true are truly blessed.

Off topic a bit, and since I've always been a UCLA fan, how much did they improve with their current recruiting class?

Lastly, womens coaches rankings are out and updated Aug. 2

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/nscaa-coaches
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UCLA currently in an RPI hole ranking of 92. I expect they will get out of that, but I don't think talent was the reason for where they are. At least two were DD's teammates and others club mates.
IMO having the #1 class for talent should keep you in the coaches poll, but it takes talent and more to keep yourself in the top half of the group. I have not seen UCLA do that yet.

If not using soccer for entrance into college then there are lots of options to have them play in college from Varsity to club to rec. The very best players my DD every played with are on Co-Rec league. They allow two girls. She has a couple off eligibility NCAA Champion players, some that never played college she says are pro good and a bunch that focus on school more than varsity.
 
Glen said:
I read that Pugh is deferring enrollment. If she was redshirting, she would be enrolled taking classes. If what I read was correct, I think that moves her to 2017 (assuming she enrolls).
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I heard deferring enrollment for the Spring, because Michelle French mandated that any college player playing in the U20 WWC has to redshirt. IMO, that is silly and why 5 of the top eligible players from rigorous academic universities at Stanford and Duke decided to skip the U20 WWC this Fall.

As for Pugh, who knows....if the US WNT team wins GOLD, she may decide to announce she is foregoing her college eligibility by turning pro so she can cash in on the gold medal bonus money and sign a Nike endorsement contract
 
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Zoro said:
UCLA currently in an RPI hole ranking of 92. I expect they will get out of that, but I don't think talent was the reason for where they are. At least two were DD's teammates and others club mates.
IMO having the #1 class for talent should keep you in the coaches poll, but it takes talent and more to keep yourself in the top half of the group. I have not seen UCLA do that yet.

If not using soccer for entrance into college then there are lots of options to have them play in college from Varsity to club to rec. The very best players my DD every played with are on Co-Rec league. They allow two girls. She has a couple off eligibility NCAA Champion players, some that never played college she says are pro good and a bunch that focus on school more than varsity.
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The "RPI hole" is not current - those are numbers released at the end of last season. Right now everybody is tied for first place.

Th co-ed leagues I am aware of don't "allow" a certain number of girls - they require a minimum number of them.
 
espola said:
The "RPI hole" is not current - those are numbers released at the end of last season. Right now everybody is tied for first place.

Th co-ed leagues I am aware of don't "allow" a certain number of girls - they require a minimum number of them.
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Her team is maxed out on girls. That was an issue. It was a friend or her, friend did something else.
Other leagues don't allow club players.
 
Glen said:
I read that Pugh is deferring enrollment. If she was redshirting, she would be enrolled taking classes. If what I read was correct, I think that moves her to 2017 (assuming she enrolls).
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She actually stays in the 2016 recruiting class. It is unlikely that she will stay past the 4th year even if she has an additional year of eligibility. 2019 is a WWC year and 2020 is an Olympic year. There is a good likelihood that she will be the face of US soccer by then with Alex Morgan handing off the torch in 2019 and doing a farewell tour at the Olympics.
 
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socalkdg said:
Having a 10 year old, I'll take just being able to watch my kid play soccer into her college years. I think any parents that have been able to have this come true are truly blessed.

Off topic a bit, and since I've always been a UCLA fan, how much did they improve with their current recruiting class?

Lastly, womens coaches rankings are out and updated Aug. 2

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-women/d1/nscaa-coaches
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They will be quite improved. They cut some players and some transferred and the roster is down to a lean and mean 24 with Pugh making it 25 in January. They will make the sweet 16 this year maybe final 8 and next year will be the big year with Pugh and AS joining the attack.
 
Zoro said:
Final Four counts - College Cup pool does not.
So count Final Four appearances last 20 years with last 10 being most important. finals being even more important and Winning - the most.

I don't know the numbers for that.

UCLA may be there, but a great soccer school has never had the season UCLA did last year.

It is of course a subjective ranking. UCLA/USC could be there. As UNC could be on the academic list.
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You did say the college cup aka the Final Four for college soccer right? I am not sure what you mean by the college cup pool. The final 4 is the college cup. I follow college soccer closely and you confused me with this one.

Not sure what last season has to do with UCLA being a great soccer school. More than half the time that they make the tournament they end up in the final 4. the only schools that can say that have had more success are North Carolina, Notre Dame and Florida State. Is this just you pumping up your daughter's school or is this a serious statement?
 
MakeAPlay said:
You did say the college cup aka the Final Four for college soccer right? I am not sure what you mean by the college cup pool. The final 4 is the college cup. I follow college soccer closely and you confused me with this one.

Not sure what last season has to do with UCLA being a great soccer school. More than half the time that they make the tournament they end up in the final 4. the only schools that can say that have had more success are North Carolina, Notre Dame and Florida State. Is this just you pumping up your daughter's school or is this a serious statement?
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The women's tournament is College Cup, I should not have capitalized the Fs. I meant those that reach the Semi's is what I was referring to. The Final Four tournament names I know of are for basket ball.

This is a good history page that you have to dig deeper to find the final four. I used to do that. I think I said in my post I didn't know the numbers and recognized they could be there. I've typically heard coaches say it is making the semi's that count. Maybe making the knockout rounds. While not privy to the details it felt as a little financial kicker was in it for making it to the semi's. I'm not thinking the same was true for quarters as I remember that being a somewhat disappointing year.

For finals:
UCLA 4X
Stanford 3X
Notre Dame 8X
UNC 24+
Florida State 3X
Duke 3X


http://www.ncaa.com/history/soccer-women/d1
Championship History
YEAR TEAM (RECORD) SCORE RUNNER-UP SITE
2015 Penn State (22-3-2) 1-0 Duke Cary, N.C.
2014 Florida State (23-1-1) 1-0 Virginia Boca Raton, Fla.
2013 UCLA (22-1-3) 1-0 (OT) Florida State Cary, N.C.
2012 North Carolina (15-5-3) 4-1 Penn State San Diego, Calif.
2011 Stanford (25-0-1) 1-0 Duke Kennesaw, Ga.
2010 Notre Dame (21-2-2) 1-0 Stanford Cary, N.C.
2009 North Carolina (23-3-1) 1-0 Stanford Texas A&M
2008 North Carolina (25-1-2) 2-1 Notre Dame Cary, N.C.
2007 Southern California (20-3-2) 2-0 Florida State Texas A&M
2006 North Carolina (27-1) 2-1 Notre Dame Cary, N.C.
2005 Portland (23-0-2) 4-0 UCLA Texas A&M
2004 *Notre Dame (25-1-1) 1-1 (2 ot, pk) UCLA Cary, N.C.
2003 North Carolina (27-0) 6-0 Connecticut Cary, N.C.
2002 Portland (20-4-2) 2-1 (2 ot) Santa Clara Austin, Texas
2001 Santa Clara (23-2) 1-0 North Carolina SMU
2000 North Carolina (21-3) 2-1 UCLA San Jose State
1999 North Carolina (24-2) 2-0 Notre Dame San Jose State
1998 Florida (26-1) 1-0 North Carolina UNC Greensboro
1997 North Carolina (27-0-1) 2-0 Connecticut UNC Greensboro
1996 North Carolina (25-1) 1-0 (2 ot) Notre Dame Santa Clara
1995 Notre Dame (21-2-2) 1-0 (3 ot) Portland North Carolina
1994 North Carolina (25-1-1) 5-0 Notre Dame Portland
1993 North Carolina (23-0) 6-0 George Mason North Carolina
1992 North Carolina (25-0) 9-1 Duke North Carolina
1991 North Carolina (25-0) 3-1 Wisconsin North Carolina
1990 North Carolina (24-0) 6-0 Connecticut North Carolina
1989 North Carolina (24-0-1) 2-0 Colorado College North Carolina State
1988 North Carolina (18-0-3) 4-1 North Carolina State North Carolina
1987 North Carolina (23-0-1 1-0 Massachusetts Massachusetts
1986 North Carolina (24-0-1) 2-0 Colorado College George Mason
1985 George Mason (18-2-1) 2-0 North Carolina George Mason
1984 North Carolina (24-0-1) 2-0 Connecticut North Carolina
1983 North Carolina (19-1) 4-0 George Mason UCF
1982 North Carolina (19-2) 2-0 UCF UCF
 
Zoro said:
UCLA currently in an RPI hole ranking of 92. I expect they will get out of that, but I don't think talent was the reason for where they are. At least two were DD's teammates and others club mates.
IMO having the #1 class for talent should keep you in the coaches poll, but it takes talent and more to keep yourself in the top half of the group. I have not seen UCLA do that yet.

If not using soccer for entrance into college then there are lots of options to have them play in college from Varsity to club to rec. The very best players my DD every played with are on Co-Rec league. They allow two girls. She has a couple off eligibility NCAA Champion players, some that never played college she says are pro good and a bunch that focus on school more than varsity.
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UCLA was lacking in talent. The recruits that BJ and Jill committed for 2013 and 2014 were hit and miss. They had one bad year and plummeted. They have the #1 schedule in the nation and will have plenty of opportunities to take down teams and climb into the poll. The NSCAA poll is quite suspect especially considering a couple of things:
1. Florida St. at number 1 is questionable even for the FSU fans. 42% of their roster are freshman and they lose all of their starting forwards.

2. Penn St. has 5 starters redshirting due to the U20 WWC and will struggle.

3.North Carolina will be missing 2 starters due to the WWC and arguably their best player will be sitting out due to injury.

4. Virginia loses about half of their starting lineup a year after underachieving.

5. Rutgers at 10 is the biggest joke. They lose like 8 starters and aren't known for picking up powerhouse classes.

The top five should be
Stanford
Duke
Texas A&M
Florida
USC

Everything else will sort itself out on the field.
 
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Zoro said:
The women's tournament is College Cup, I should not have capitalized the Fs. I meant those that reach the Semi's is what I was referring to. The Final Four tournament names I know of are for basket ball.

This is a good history page that you have to dig deeper to find the final four. I used to do that. I think I said in my post I didn't know the numbers and recognized they could be there. I've typically heard coaches say it is making the semi's that count. Maybe making the knockout rounds. While not privy to the details it felt as a little financial kicker was in it for making it to the semi's. I'm not thinking the same was true for quarters as I remember that being a somewhat disappointing year.
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What NCAA calls the "College Cup" is the three games at the end of the Tournament, the semi-finals and the final. Actually, there are 6 "College Cups" every year - men and women in all three divisions. The location is announced years in advance and tickets go on sale early in the season.

The only NCAA Tournament that pays anything to the competing schools is D1 men's basketball, and that money goes to the conferences ($260,000 per game played, and the payments to the conferences continue for years). That became a Title IX issue the last few years because the D1 women's teams and their conferences are paid nothing. I have heard from people I trust that the NCAA covers all the teams' travel expenses to the tournament in all sports, so that's something.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/26/opinion/the-ncaas-women-problem.html?_r=0
 
This is obviously a cash snatch. Surf, Blues and Slammers send a lot of players to the national groups and Beach has a few quality mentors. I could see RSC and Arsenal making a geographic argument.SoCal Girls DA clubs can just create 10-12 players for every club, per HS graduation year, in light of the joined age bunches. That is a sum of just 96 SoCal players resolving to play school soccer, hence ECNL will even now be a feasible alternative for school introduction.
 
NoGoal said:
As for Pugh, who knows....if the US WNT team wins GOLD, she may decide to announce she is foregoing her college eligibility by turning pro so she can cash in on the gold medal bonus money and sign a Nike endorsement contract
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Sarcasm or are you coming around on the idea that those opportunities are starting to be available? Especially for her....
 
dfbmike said:
Sarcasm or are you coming around on the idea that those opportunities are starting to be available? Especially for her....
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She is the exception to the rule.....And falls in line with the Alex Morgan's of the world, aka once in a generation player. Your funny, if you think 1 out of the millions girls who play girls youth soccer proves your point that girls soccer players will become the norm, by turning pro to make millions. She won't be making millions as US Soccer pays 1 time 187K bonus for each WC or Olympic Championship. She isn't going to pull Marta money, even with her Nike deal. She on the contrary proves my point, unless your a phenom....posters and readers better forget having their DDs even thinking about playing professionally, if they have no shot at making the US WNT, a roster of 22 players. They will make more money playing college soccer, getting their education and entering the work force.

Read a dose of reality!

http://www.takepart.com/feature/2015/06/05/womens-world-cup-womens-pro-soccer

BTW, she was is not just a by product of US Soccer. She played ECNL and HS soccer.
 
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NoGoal said:
She is the exception to the rule.....And falls in line with the Alex Morgan's of the world, aka once in a generation player. Your funny, if you think 1 out of millions girls who play girls soccer is now the norm and proves your point that women soccer players will become the norm by turning pro to make making millions. she won't be making millions either. US Soccer pays 1 time 187K bonus for each WC or Olympic Championship. She isn't going to pull Marta money.

BTW, she was is not just a by product of US Soccer. She played ECNL and HS soccer.
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irrelevant, always said depriment to soccer development here is between ages 17 and 22...college years...we have maybe the best and most athletic youth players in the world right here in socal and the US, continuation and improvement of their development in college and opportunities thereafter is what fails them. and you happen to be incorrect, there are other players on the squad (at least 1 that bypassed college to sign a pro contract in europe)...i care less if players make it to pro leagues through ecnl or da as long as that option is available.
right now the sole purpose of a DA is to develop players as a pipeline to porfessional soccer, if ecnl wants to hop on that wagon more power to them.
i am not watching this olympic soccer but every time the uswnt plays it is pure advertising for the nwsl and womens pro soccer, stepping stone...if pugh were to sign pro it would be another stepping stone, all it takes is one baby. there are plenty of other players who signed pro straight out of HS, but she would be the biggest story and i wouldn't even go as far as calling her a once in a generation player, yet, she is 17.
NWSL will sign a new tv deal the next couple of years and many mls teams are waiting in line to join the league for expansion, i am sure they would be happy to have someone like pugh on board.
Soccer careers are short, get what you can, make that dough first, you can always get that education later. might not be the popular opinion, but who cares. you love your ecnl and college soccer, i get it, but dont be bitter because future players male or female will have better opps than our kids will or did.
 
dfbmike said:
irrelevant, always said depriment to soccer development here is between ages 17 and 22...college years...we have maybe the best and most athletic youth players in the world right here in socal and the US, continuation and improvement of their development in college and opportunities thereafter is what fails them. and you happen to be incorrect, there are other players on the squad (at least 1 that bypassed college to sign a pro contract in europe)...i care less if players make it to pro leagues through ecnl or da as long as that option is available.
right now the sole purpose of a DA is to develop players as a pipeline to porfessional soccer, if ecnl wants to hop on that wagon more power to them.
i am not watching this olympic soccer but every time the uswnt plays it is pure advertising for the nwsl and womens pro soccer, stepping stone...if pugh were to sign pro it would be another stepping stone, all it takes is one baby. there are plenty of other players who signed pro straight out of HS, but she would be the biggest story and i wouldn't even go as far as calling her a once in a generation player, yet, she is 17.
NWSL will sign a new tv deal the next couple of years and many mls teams are waiting in line to join the league for expansion, i am sure they would be happy to have someone like pugh on board.
Soccer careers are short, get what you can, make that dough first, you can always get that education later. might not be the popular opinion, but who cares. you love your ecnl and college soccer, i get it, but dont be bitter because future players male or female will have better opps than our kids will or did.
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Again, I didn't read your post!

Read the article:

http://www.takepart.com/feature/2015/06/05/womens-world-cup-womens-pro-soccer

Like, I posted prior keep dreaming the world needs dreamers!

I'm OUT, dueces, LMAO!
 
NoGoal said:
She is the exception to the rule.....And falls in line with the Alex Morgan's of the world, aka once in a generation player. Your funny, if you think 1 out of the millions girls who play girls youth soccer proves your point that girls soccer players will become the norm, by turning pro to make millions. She won't be making millions as US Soccer pays 1 time 187K bonus for each WC or Olympic Championship. She isn't going to pull Marta money, even with her Nike deal. She on the contrary proves my point, unless your a phenom....posters and readers better forget having their DDs even thinking about playing professionally, if they have no shot at making the US WNT, a roster of 22 players. They will make more money playing college soccer, getting their education and entering the work force.

Read a dose of reality!

http://www.takepart.com/feature/2015/06/05/womens-world-cup-womens-pro-soccer

BTW, she was is not just a by product of US Soccer. She played ECNL and HS soccer.
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One of DD's teammates will be playing pro, another is a Chemical Engineer who was hired by Deloitte (guess they like smart kids with no experience).
By 4th year of college there are very different ideas of what is successful. Even if being a pro were an option, many are done, would not take it or want it. It is a hard life.
 
Zoro said:
One of DD's teammates will be playing pro, another is a Chemical Engineer who was hired by Deloitte (guess they like smart kids with no experience).
By 4th year of college there are very different ideas of what is successful. Even if being a pro were an option, many are done, would not take it or want it. It is a hard life.
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They hired her because she is bright and one of the very few women with a degree in chemical engineering is my guess.

It's a hard life for a women pro soccer player, because there is no money to be made. They are playing purely for the love of the game, except for 22-23 US women national team players who's salary are subsidized by US Soccer.
 
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