Girls Development Academy

NoGoal said:
I hope this is a rhetorical question?
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I think he meant they should still go to college, then try an make money as soccer players(not millions). Once done with that, they start their career. I believe the stat is 1.6% actually make the NFL after college football. Thus even with the chances at millions, boys/men should be playing for the love of the game and getting their college education.

Based off the info we have, wouldn't it be in everyone's best interest to set the goal for girls soccer to be college soccer(besides all the other benefits that they get from playing), while improving the training they get there in college, then take the girls from colleges for the US program? Or is soccer so different from baseball, football, mens and womens basketball, that this won't work?
 
definition of a successful professional athletes for some of you=multi millionaire and must play in one of the top leagues of the world= got it.
 
BornToRun said:
Pro Football players go to college. They make millions later. Why on Earth shouldn't female soccer players?
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ahh always love the nfl/nba and soccer comparisons.
are football players eligible to join nfl teams straight outta high school? it is called a money making monopoly for everyone=no other options. would those players go to college if there were other options?
things aren't always black n white.
 
NoGoal said:
Again, I didn't read your post!

Read the article:

http://www.takepart.com/feature/2015/06/05/womens-world-cup-womens-pro-soccer

Like, I posted prior keep dreaming the world needs dreamers!

I'm OUT, dueces, LMAO!
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i have indeed come to the realization that facts of growth of the sport of soccer in this country and its corresponding changes, increase of opportunities and opening of new doors, for both male and female players, that you are not used to incapacitates your ability to read.

I could post plenty of articles and successful stories (eye of the beholder i guess) here backing my angle as well, but i wont. and again i'm not talking about education or becoming an engineer, right or wrong, high risk vs low risk, good choice vs bad choice, millions vs poverty line....i'm talking about soccer development and professional playing opportunities which many athletes dream of, train hard for and make many sacrifices because its what they love to do, even more so as a job. and its not for everyone.

you are a funny guy, i don't care what they say about you. keep up the good work.
 
This is a moot argument. Until the DA actually comes around and produces one YNT player let alone one WNT player it is all speculation. I know players with pro potential that are betting on their education not the US developmental system. I also know players that are going to Mexico to play professionally. I also know a female player that went overseas to play pro and is back now and headed to a JUCO when she could have got a great scholarship.

Let's wait for it to happen and we can debate the results later. Let's hope the NWSL doesn't fold before then.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I'm sorry but it still boggles my mind that there is a debate about women's pro soccer.
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Amen brother, many are delusional about riches being had playing professional womens soccer. If there were even mid to high 6 figure multi year contracts available being drafted outright after high school as a non-WNT player. That is the path many players should take similar to baseball, but that isn't the case. To each their own though.

To put in perspective, by 2021 (my DD college grad year) the minimum wage will be $15 an hour ($31,200 a yr) and working at Wal-Mart as a greeter or flipping burgers at McDonalds will make more than a NWSL player.
 
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dfbmike said:
definition of a successful professional athletes for some of you=multi millionaire and must play in one of the top leagues of the world= got it.
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To me it means a vocation that enables you to support the life you want, and provides a path into retirement without needing to be supported by others.
Pretty tough in women's soccer. Pretty tough in many men's sports too.
The idea of a sport as a vocation removes a wee bit of the romance for me - and I expect for many that do it.
 
dfbmike said:
ahh always love the nfl/nba and soccer comparisons.
are football players eligible to join nfl teams straight outta high school? it is called a money making monopoly for everyone=no other options. would those players go to college if there were other options?
things aren't always black n white.
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It is an honor to be able to attend a top university in this country, and a great privilege to be given money to do so. I will be grateful if my daughter gets the opportunity to play the sport she loves at the collegiate level. That alone is reserved for a select few.
 
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BornToRun said:
It is an honor to be able to attend a top university in this country, and a great privilege to be given money to do so. I will be grateful if my daughter gets the opportunity to play the sport she loves at the collegiate level. That alone is reserved for a select few.
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I would like to add, if a family's DD gets a 50% scholarship offer from an out of state or private university. The university is actually paying the student more to play for the school and getting their education than the NWSL pays their drafted players afterwards.

Thank you NFL and NBA for making college football and basketball programs profitable.
 
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NoGoal said:
I would like to add, if a family's DD gets a 50% scholarship offer from an out of state or private university. The university is actually paying the student more to play for the school and getting their education than the NWSL pays their drafted players afterwards.

Thank you NFL and NBA for making college football and basketball programs profitable.
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How many college football and basketball programs do you think are profitable?
 
espola said:
How many college football and basketball programs do you think are profitable?
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I know one is :) This whole sports in school is a big game. I'm not saying it is corrupt, but where and how that money goes is an art.

But the other thing that is hard to figure is the donation that come because of teams. Someone donated millions for a new hockey stadium - but the money goes someplace else - maybe (see below). You can't really tie that money to ticket sales, or the profitability of the sport, or can you? It is part of this "fund accounting" and done well sports bring in a lot of other benefit to colleges.

If the money is funneled correctly, say given to the library, new architecture building - just saying - that donation can increased points for college rankings because a new building (in the right place) means increased spending/student!

From: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings
"Financial resources (10 percent): Generous per-student spending indicates that a college can offer a wide variety of programs and services. U.S. News measures financial resources by using the average spending per student on instruction, research, student services and related educational expenditures in the 2013 and 2014 fiscal years. Spending on sports, dorms and hospitals doesn't count. "

My guess is about 50 College football teams are profitable. No idea about basketball.
 
dfbmike said:
i have indeed come to the realization that facts of growth of the sport of soccer in this country and its corresponding changes, increase of opportunities and opening of new doors, for both male and female players, that you are not used to incapacitates your ability to read.

I could post plenty of articles and successful stories (eye of the beholder i guess) here backing my angle as well, but i wont. and again i'm not talking about education or becoming an engineer, right or wrong, high risk vs low risk, good choice vs bad choice, millions vs poverty line....i'm talking about soccer development and professional playing opportunities which many athletes dream of, train hard for and make many sacrifices because its what they love to do, even more so as a job. and its not for everyone.

you are a funny guy, i don't care what they say about you. keep up the good work.
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Dfb- So, your position of an athlete doing what they want to do....following their passion....go after their dream of playing female pro ball is probably based on your personal playing experience in Deutschland(you previously shared). I'm sure it was a great experience, given u great memories and if you were good male player, probably made yourself some $$.

The challenge most parents have with your position is promoting a career path that doesn't sustain independence..... The whole "following your dream"....."playing for passion for the game" goes out the window when the "dream" becomes reality...and the reality is that in women's pro soccer, u can't pay your bills - that's reality.

Will things change for the better for women's pro soccer...probably. For me, I'm simply unable to encourage my daughter to be the William Wallce, better yet, Joan of Arc for the cause and passion for the game. Naw....The encouragement ive given my dd (and clearly others) is utilize the game she loves and parlay to get into the best opprotunity to for the rest of her life.

That mindset has afforded her the opprotunity to play soccer in college and be amongst future heads of state, CEO's, and possibly (if financially profitable) owning a women's pro soccer team - now that's taking a "dream" and turning it into reality;)
 
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Zoro said:
I could have written that. But likely not as well or without someone getting mad at me.
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A good case in point is a former local socal player (quite prolific in club/college) who played at ND ..... A few months ago, This player was home between proseason. She shared with a mutual friend that she is sort of lost.....you see, her whole youth she wanted to and was tracking to be on the WNT. For one reason or another she didn't make it (tho was YNT for years)....her degree from ND wasn't of substance (communications or of the like). When WNT didn't come to fruition, she played overseas, following her dream but not making $$..... Great experience she says, but at the end of the day, not sure what to do with the rest of her life.

Now she'll be fine, will find her way, and will have memorable experiences. Is her path wrong...not at all.

Just different than I'd hope and/or encourage for my kid.
 
Zerodenero said:
Dfb- So, your position of an athlete doing what they want to do....following their passion....go after their dream of playing female pro ball is probably based on your personal playing experience in Deutschland(you previously shared). I'm sure it was a great experience, given u great memories and if you were good male player, probably made yourself some $$.
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Winner winner chicken dinner. I posted something similar early this morning, but it wasn't as nice. I decided to delete it. This is the tell with the post below. He subconsciously posted his personal experience below. Have to read between the lines.
dfbmike said:
definition of a successful professional athletes for some of you=multi millionaire and must play in one of the top leagues of the world= got it.
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Zerodenero said:
...her degree from ND wasn't of substance (communications or of the like). ...
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This is a hard one. Most schools have programs and degrees that are not that difficult. I still tend to think the brand outweighs the degree. But sure - an engineering degree from state x is likely better than an art appreciation from big brand.

ND has programs that do not interfere with soccer, and or not so much of substance. My DD's program did interfere with soccer - as I posted, that is why mine quit.
But some schools - have no where to hide. There are no easy classes. That makes having a top soccer team a bit more difficult.
 
If GDA is free and subsidized by US Soccer then it works. If not, it won't. US soccer will not fund GDA therefore it won't work.

My advice is if you try out for GDA make sure they are ECNL also.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
If GDA is free and subsidized by US Soccer then it works. If not, it won't. US soccer will not fund GDA therefore it won't work.

My advice is if you try out for GDA make sure they are ECNL also.
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I asked my club about USSF subsidizing the DA. From what I was told, USSF is investing in advancing the coach's training. The coaches are expected to be on an A license track. And USSF will pay for that training to hopefully get everyone to an A.

I also asked about the 2 year age band and was told it was a financial decision. Basically USSF cant afford to fund that many coaches (see above), but will get to a 1 year age band soon.
 
madcow said:
I asked my club about USSF subsidizing the DA. From what I was told, USSF is investing in advancing the coach's training. The coaches are expected to be on an A license track. And USSF will pay for that training to hopefully get everyone to an A.

I also asked about the 2 year age band and was told it was a financial decision. Basically USSF cant afford to fund that many coaches (see above), but will get to a 1 year age band soon.
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It remains to be seen that coaches with advanced licenses will be better coaches, in the sense of developing the quality of players that the USSF investment is hoping to get for their money.
 
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