GIRLS DAII

NoGoal said:
Dam straight I don't and why I think you posters are crazy for wanting your DDs to attend year round 4 days of Girls DA club practice and 1 day of league games a week with limited sub rules. Reality will be hitting home for many posters this coming season or next season. As you begin the college recruiting stage.
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I'm pretty sure my dd can handle it. It's not year round. In fact, the weeks we have off my dd is already bummed and wanting to sign up for a camp. And don't worry, she has plenty of other extra-curricular activities that she loves. The new generation of soccer girls will be mentally tough and are willing to play and work hard in school as well as on the field. At this point, this is what it is for our dd's and like it or not if our dd's want to play at the highest level this is going to be the norm. I'm sure there will be some who burn out, but that is no different from other players in ECNL, SCDSL, CSL, etc. I know plenty of girls who played ECNL who quit, not due to too many practices but due to not having the personal drive to play anymore. As for college recruiting, well we will have to see how it goes just like you had to do when your dd was going thru it. Your dd's path to college is long gone just like ECNL will be in a few years...
And BTW, I'm sure you guzzled the Kool Aid when your dd was younger. Nothing wrong with drinking some Kool Aid now and then. Our dd's will be fine, so you can stop worrying about what road we are taking.
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Have you ALL really thought about it. Investing more family time at club practice for the hope of a college scholarship, getting admitted to a top university as a preferred walk-on and to play womens college soccer?

It definitely isn't for your DD to make 25K a year playing professionally in the NWSL.
 
NoGoal said:
Have you ALL really thought about it. Investing more family time at club practice for the hope of a college scholarship, getting admitted to a top university as a preferred walk-on and to play womens college soccer?

It definitely isn't for your DD to make 25K a year playing professionally in the NWSL.
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Just so you know, my dd is playing because she loves it. She loves the competition and her teammates. Not to mention she is in great shape physically and mentally. As for soccer, we do not have her playing for a scholarship. If it happens, great. If not, well we have a college savings for that too. My dd's practices are 5 minutes from home, her best friends are on her team, and she has a phenomenal coach. Her competitive spirit allows her to play hard and study hard as well as have fun with her friends. I'm not sure how much your dd had to give up to get into college, but my dd is doing what she loves...it's not all about what is next. For us it's about the present. If she gets offers from college coaches that will be icing on the cake. And besides, there are plenty of women who love the game who pay to play in rec leagues. It's not all about the $$ and scholarships. Sometimes it's actually about the love of the game. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
Sandypk said:
I'm pretty sure my dd can handle it. It's not year round. In fact, the weeks we have off my dd is already bummed and wanting to sign up for a camp. And don't worry, she has plenty of other extra-curricular activities that she loves. The new generation of soccer girls will be mentally tough and are willing to play and work hard in school as well as on the field. At this point, this is what it is for our dd's and like it or not if our dd's want to play at the highest level this is going to be the norm. I'm sure there will be some who burn out, but that is no different from other players in ECNL, SCDSL, CSL, etc. I know plenty of girls who played ECNL who quit, not due to too many practices but due to not having the personal drive to play anymore. As for college recruiting, well we will have to see how it goes just like you had to do when your dd was going thru it. Your dd's path to college is long gone just like ECNL will be in a few years...
And BTW, I'm sure you guzzled the Kool Aid when your dd was younger. Nothing wrong with drinking some Kool Aid now and then. Our dd's will be fine, so you can stop worrying about what road we are taking.
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Actually, I didn't drink a lot of the club Kool-Aid. You see, I was what they call a club hopper and ALWAYS did what was best for my DD. She played for ulittle top teams, a B team and ECNL for 2 years only. I learned by reading player college bio's when she was a ulittle player that it is ALL about the individual player accolades which college coaches covet the most. If that wasn't the case, you would be seeing more ECNL Strikers and Arsenal players committing to Power 5 schools.

Even being the #1 team in an ECNL conference and winning an ECNL Championship doesn't mean.....all those players will be committing to Power 5 schools. Just research and see where the G98/99 WCFC ECNL players are committed.
 
Sandypk said:
Just so you know, my dd is playing because she loves it. She loves the competition and her teammates. Not to mention she is in great shape physically and mentally. As for soccer, we do not have her playing for a scholarship. If it happens, great. If not, well we have a college savings for that too. My dd's practices are 5 minutes from home, her best friends are on her team, and she has a phenomenal coach. Her competitive spirit allows her to play hard and study hard as well as have fun with her friends. I'm not sure how much your dd had to give up to get into college, but my dd is doing what she loves...it's not all about what is next. For us it's about the present. If she gets offers from college coaches that will be icing on the cake. And besides, there are plenty of women who love the game who pay to play in rec leagues. It's not all about the $$ and scholarships. Sometimes it's actually about the love of the game. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Sure, keep convincing yourself that. Let's see what happens if she sits on a Girls DA team and doesn't play much or even get into a game. I will bet she quickly loses the love of the game faster than you stop posting when she isn't recruited to play college soccer.
 
NoGoal said:
Actually, I didn't drink a lot of the club Kool-Aid. You see, I was what they call a club hopper and ALWAYS did what was best for my DD. She played for ulittle top teams, a B team and ECNL for 2 years only. I learned by reading player college bio's when she was a ulittle player that it is ALL about the individual player accolades which college coaches covet the most. If that wasn't the case, you would be seeing more ECNL Strikers and Arsenal players committing to Power 5 schools.

Even being the #1 team in an ECNL conference and winning an ECNL Championship doesn't mean.....all those players will be committing to Power 5 schools. Just research and see where the G98/99 WCFC ECNL players are committed.
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Yes, I know all about your dd. You have posted plenty about how she got to where she is now. Good job being a research analyst and strategist. Gotta love those politics.
 
Another thing to consider is that with DA there is no High School soccer. For us that was practice 2 days per week in the preseason (during club season) during the normal PE period (we are on a block schedule). Practice 3 days a week during season plus games another two days of games (between bus rides and pregame prep this took close to 4 hours). Occasional Saturday games for tournaments. A total of 25 High School games. And practice 2 days per week in the spring.

My daughter is of the opinion that she will actually have more time to study playing DA!
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Another thing to consider is that with DA there is no High School soccer. For us that was practice 2 days per week in the preseason (during club season) during the normal PE period (we are on a block schedule). Practice 3 days a week during season plus games another two days of games (between bus rides and pregame prep this took close to 4 hours). Occasional Saturday games for tournaments. A total of 25 High School games. And practice 2 days per week in the spring.

My daughter is of the opinion that she will actually have more time to study playing DA!
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The HS time committment depends on the HS coach. I know of a HS coach who made his players run in the morning and trained 2-3 hours 4 days a week. The players on that school hated it. On the flip side I know of HS teams that train 1.5 hours a day and have happy players. The club players were also NOT required to play HS soccer and could have taken a 2-3 month break if they wanted to.
 
Lambchop said:
Many of us also hope GDA is a success. One big difference between what we have now and will have is the difference between practicing two days a week versus four days a week. Most of the players who now train privately will continue to train privately. Practicing with your team and coach two extra days will certainly help the level of play. We shall all see.
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What you have just described is a perfect recipe for Burn Out. The top girls are adding more to an already full plate.
 
outside! said:
My understanding is that since there will be fewer games played, the fourth practice day will be on weekends when there is no game.
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Out of curiosity have you looked at the BDA schedule? Seems brutal. Honestly , I don't see the fewer games. I see more league games, no tournaments, one showcase, and teams playing each other repeatedly.
 
SocalSoccerMom said:
Are you saying C teams from ECNL and DA clubs are playing in CRL? Or are you saying the level of play in CRL circuit has dropped to third tier? There is a big difference.
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I think she is saying that many teams that will be competing in crl this year would not have had a fighting chance to compete in it years before. I saw mostly b and c teams on the play in schedule and I believe it is mostly b teams who got their top teams auto acceptance. I would not expect a very high level of play with crl. As much as I hate to admit it, most of the top talent is at DA this year, and I would say almost all will be within the next couple of years after the holdouts get a taste of what the non Da competition looks like. I think Da and ecnl have made crl irrelevant.
 
MakeAPlay said:
@Dos Equis Not an error. Clearly for the games to count in the standings the ECNL teams would have to all be in Premier, which was an invitation only league already. There still would be 4 available slots in Premier if they kept it at 12 teams and the compromise could have been made that they expanded Premier to 14 or 16 teams. I don't really see the problem as most of these teams wanted to play the ECNL teams. My point was clear that the ECNL clubs were willing to negotiate and GS wasn't. The old system was set where the teams that got relegated basically imploded because the best players would scatter to the other premier teams.

Regarding the SCDSL showcase games. I never said that it went more than a season or that the ECNL teams played to win. My player played in one showcase game and sat out the other two and this was common practice to allow some of the players that didn't get as much PT to start and play extended minutes. Usually a teams top 5-7 girls didn't play or played very little.


My player always previously practiced 3 days a week with her ECNL team plus privates during the offseason. I just don't know how my player would have squeezed in another day when she had other activities like ASB, community service, family activities, her friends and other commitments. During the college season they only practice 2 days a week with another day of film and a walkthrough practice. I just am curious as to what the endgame is. My player loves soccer but she loves the rest of her life too. Good luck to you and your player.
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I would like to see Da go to 3 days a week for this reason.
 
chargerfan said:
I think she is saying that many teams that will be competing in crl this year would not have had a fighting chance to compete in it years before. I saw mostly b and c teams on the play in schedule and I believe it is mostly b teams who got their top teams auto acceptance. I would not expect a very high level of play with crl. As much as I hate to admit it, most of the top talent is at DA this year, and I would say almost all will be within the next couple of years after the holdouts get a taste of what the non Da competition looks like. I think Da and ecnl have made crl irrelevant.
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Everything is or will be watered down, including DA (as the elite league when compared to ECNL, 8 teams v. 13 teams).
 
Justafan said:
Everything is or will be watered down, including DA (as the elite league when compared to ECNL, 8 teams v. 13 teams).
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Similar to professional sports when owners agree to add more teams. The league gets watered down.

80's NBA needed 4-5 great players to become a dynasty, today it only takes 3 great players.
 
shales1002 said:
Out of curiosity have you looked at the BDA schedule? Seems brutal. Honestly , I don't see the fewer games. I see more league games, no tournaments, one showcase, and teams playing each other repeatedly.
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Sounds just like SCDSL
NoGoal said:
Sure, keep convincing yourself that. Let's see what happens if she sits on a Girls DA team and doesn't play much or even get into a game. I will bet she quickly loses the love of the game faster than you stop posting when she isn't recruited to play college soccer.
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I love your put downs when you have no insight to give. You're right, I will stop posting when my dd decides to stop playing and if/when she goes to college. I won't be mocking younger's parents when my dd is in college.
 
Justafan said:
Everything is or will be watered down, including DA (as the elite league when compared to ECNL, 8 teams v. 13 teams).
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This isn't why I don't believe Da is the exclusive route to a college scholarship. Nobody has the monopoly on top players right now. But I do think your daughter should be on a da, ecnl or Flight 1 A team. This could change if the top ecnl and flight 1 A team girls start gravitating to da.
 
Sandypk said:
Sounds just like SCDSL

I love your put downs when you have no insight to give. You're right, I will stop posting when my dd decides to stop playing and if/when she goes to college. I won't be mocking younger's parents when my dd is in college.
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If you've been paying attention, he has given a lot of insight. I appreciate the advice of parents who have "been there, done that".
 
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