Getting another player card to guest play?

focomoso said:
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I believe you focomoso. You told everyone you ignore me but you don't anymore so that's cool, we can discuss. You said, "Man, you have so many personal grudges" If your dd was abused, would you hold a grudge? If you went through proper protocol and went to their boss and their boss and nothing was done and then it was told it was all my fault and my dd fault, how would you feel? I see that your a father? If your dd was abused, what would you do dad? This is not a little bee sting grudge either bro. You don't have to agree with my tactics, but to call me some internet guy is not cool dude. We have girls killing themselves, cutting themselves, depressed, quitting the game, harming themselves with pain meds and drugs. I had one dad tell me to just sue the bastards. That get's nothing done except paying off a father to STFU. I want this to stop. I chose this path. No one has to read my cries for help for my dd or other kids. You can hit ignore and skip my begging people to listen and pause for a moment to fix the abuse. I know some parents who begged the TM to put in a good word to the scouts and I thought it was a joke but not now. However, if they have nasty TM out to get your dd, it might go south. Parents want college and I bring depression and I guess it ruins the joy of trying to get that deal done. Trust me, if you dd can play soccer and has good grades, they can get in without help from Miss TM. This lady sockma has no business telling the scouts who the good humans are and who is not, based on her BS insights. This lady is nasty and hated my dd. Every coach that has coached my dd has loved her and appreciated her except for one jerk. Even the one who yelled the must, thanked my dd for helping him win a natty. She gave up 18 months of her life to win a natty for herself, her teammates, her coach, her doc and the club. That coach is a good man, he just needed some help and maybe he got help. Girls don't like being yelled at and some have been emotionally yelled at and abused that causes mental disorders and some have been sexually harassed and some even worse. Why do I say all this focomoso? Because I care and want it to stop. Sockma is a B-Witch. That is someone who is spinless and a coward.
 
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focomoso said:
GM...? General Manager, maybe?

No.

I'm a regular dad of a player that's starting to get scouted for college, but is still too young to actually talk to any coaches so I'm thankful when the TMs answer their questions. (This is another topic, but the NCAA is shooting itself in the foot when pro scouts can talk to kids, but college scouts can't. It's like they're asking for the best talent to forgo college.)

I also know how hard and thankless the job can be and see no reason that the fact that you had a bad experience with a TM that didn't like you (I can't imagine why...) should taint the process.
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P.s> The top players are going pro at 15 and 16 now. In Spain, they go pro at 15 as well. In America, people like you think it's all about college. To me, it was all about playing freaking soccer. This is the problem. People like you and the TMs and the clubs see big $$$ for the college ploy. Be careful what you ask for focomos. I sure hope your dd doesn't get abused. And please, don't blame me or her for being abused dude. Not cool.
 
I have to leave. I might be back later this evening. I honestly hope none your kids have issues with abuse in soccer. Players card should be the parents and players card, not the TMs card to hold unto to see what kind of human you are. TMs have absoultely no business talking to scouts on your child's behalf. Hell no. These people are sick, moo!

What is the meaning of mentally abusing?
What is Mental Abuse? Mental abuse is meant to undermine your self-esteem and make you feel worse about yourself. It is also a form of manipulation and control. The effects of mental abuse are just as detrimental as the effects of physical abuse.

What is the meaning of emotional abusing?
Emotional abuse includes non-physical behaviors that are meant to control, isolate, or frighten you. This may present in romantic relationships as threats, insults, constant monitoring, excessive jealousy, manipulation, humiliation, intimidation, dismissiveness, among others.
 
focomoso said:
GM...? General Manager, maybe?

No.

I'm a regular dad of a player that's starting to get scouted for college, but is still too young to actually talk to any coaches so I'm thankful when the TMs answer their questions. (This is another topic, but the NCAA is shooting itself in the foot when pro scouts can talk to kids, but college scouts can't. It's like they're asking for the best talent to forgo college.)

I also know how hard and thankless the job can be and see no reason that the fact that you had a bad experience with a TM that didn't like you (I can't imagine why...) should taint the process.
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How would the NCAA prevent pro scouts from communicating? They could lower the age restrictions but that defeats the purpose of why they made the change to begin with. Honestly, for what these women are paid, you're talking about top tier players being lost by top tier programs, right? The Stanfords and North Carolinas? I don't have a ton of sympathy for those programs. That's a "next up" deal for them.
 
Why do you guys care so much about a quarter scholarship from Chico state or Point Loma Nazarene to have your child abused?
crush said:
The Team Manager. The GM= General Manager or head recruiter. Some have dual rolls. The bad one's cause lot's of problems.
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Only if your child plays the same position as the TM's child and plays better.
 
Jamisfoes said:
Why do you guys care so much about a quarter scholarship from Chico state or Point Loma Nazarene to have your child abused?

Only if your child plays the same position as the TM's child and plays better.
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None of us are ok with anyone of our children being abused for any amount of money...well maybe a few USD trillions. Crush went on this rant about how bad TM and GMs are and how we should just pay someone to do that job. Then in the same breath, he says we need to remove pay to play.

I've decided, for some random reason, that I need to defend all the TM and GM that have helped us out in the past and will help us out in the future.
 
crush said:
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Yeah - they're answering questions that are posed to them by coaches, like they're suppose to. (This has to stop)
Your paranoid self is going to blame the TMs for all the things you thought your child deserved but didn't get. (You have something wrong with you and your a liar)
Your DD was at Strikers for her last two years, are you blaming those Striker TMs for your child not being at a decent college soccer program?
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I didn't even see this BS post. You are a nasty lady. WTF are you even talking about. Sockma has been here for 7 months and she knows everything about where my dd played the last two years of club, her one bee sting 7 years ago and I only did one good thing to call out one abuser. You are big fat liar. Since you asked, she only played half of each season. I have no idea about the last TM although I find it interesting that you knew we had TM(s). The first one I have no comment.
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That's right Crush - I haven't been on here that long and you've already revealed all that info. And wow...I know you had a TM, like every other team has a TM because we need good volunteers to keep costs down.

Well now, that's abusive to call me nasty, don't you think? All I did was repeat all the stuff you've been telling everyone.
 
Jamisfoes said:
Why do you guys care so much about a quarter scholarship from Chico state or Point Loma Nazarene to have your child abused?

Only if your child plays the same position as the TM's child and plays better.
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Sockma describes the abuses to my child as a bee sting. Little miss know it all let the coaches know what kind of human the player is based on the parents appreciation and ass kissing they do and what the kids were doing on Friday nights and what they post on SM

From the Yates report. This article makes me puke. I tried to warn these liars but no one would do nothing. In fact, they blamed me and my kid. Real leaders in the game.
“Our investigation has revealed a league in which abuse and misconduct — verbal and emotional abuse and sexual misconduct — had become systemic, spanning multiple teams, coaches and victims,” Sally Q. Yates, the lead investigator, wrote in the report’s executive summary. “Abuse in the N.W.S.L. is rooted in a deeper culture in women’s soccer, beginning in youth leagues, that normalizes verbally abusive coaching and blurs boundaries between coaches and players.”
"Even with so much of the worst abuse publicly known, the Yates report is stunning in how meticulously it details how many powerful soccer officials were told about abuse and how little they did to investigate or stop it." She added that “abusive coaches moved from team to team, laundered by press releases thanking them for their service,” while those with knowledge of their misconduct stayed silent. (Crush & DD did not stay silent, but were blamed, blacklisted and retaliated against from those at the top of youth soccer)
One coach called in a player to review game film and showed her pornography instead. Another was notorious at the highest levels of women’s soccer for alternately berating his players and then quizzing them about their sex lives."

We got to clean house, not attack a dad with so called grudges. My kid never signed up for youth soccer to play in college. This was shoved down our throats in 7th and 8th grade. My kid wanted to win a Natty and she did. Then the full court abuse came to her. It was crazy so we quit and played HS Soccer.
 
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sockma said:
I didn't even see this BS post. You are a nasty lady. WTF are you even talking about. Sockma has been here for 7 months and she knows everything about where my dd played the last two years of club, her one bee sting 7 years ago and I only did one good thing to call out one abuser. You are big fat liar. Since you asked, she only played half of each season. I have no idea about the last TM although I find it interesting that you knew we had TM(s). The first one I have no comment.
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That's right Crush - I haven't been on here that long and you've already revealed all that info. And wow...I know you had a TM, like every other team has a TM because we need good volunteers to keep costs down.

Well now, that's abusive to call me nasty, don't you think? All I did was repeat all the stuff you've been telling everyone.
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Liar
 
sockma said:
None of us are ok with anyone of our children being abused for any amount of money...well maybe a few USD trillions. Crush went on this rant about how bad TM and GMs are and how we should just pay someone to do that job. Then in the same breath, he says we need to remove pay to play.

I've decided, for some random reason, that I need to defend all the TM and GM that have helped us out in the past and will help us out in the future.
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You need to go back and read your BS miss little liar TM. Seriously, I want to share all the DMs I'm getting but I promised people I would never share PMs, unlike some on here. Listen, I know who you are and you are full of sh*t and you know it. You're a nasty lady. A bee sting 7 years ago? I find it very hard to believe after 17 years in the game you just came on here and read up on Crush and all his rants and have all the teams down and all the bee stings. You are nasty lady and do not like me or my dd and I know why. Listen up and I mean this. When our kids are abused and no one does jack sh*t but me, then we have a very serious problem in youth soccer. You blamed me for where my dd is at with no college deal, did you not? We never were looking for a deal and if you were reading about my rants, you would know that. She only kept the door open her Sr year to see if their were any good human coaches out there and YOU flipped that back at us as why no deals came. I busted you big time. To all the good TMs, This lady is making you look bad. I can say right now over 90% of my PMs are for Crush. I still have asshole fathers who mock me, laugh at me and are still giving me sh*t but that's ok, I know the kind of dads they are. Keep it up TM.
 
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The TM and the players card need to be in the Yates report. I know the Pros got more money and attention to their abuse and I'm happy about that. However, no one has come down to the youth arena to investigate. They really should if they want to fix this abuse. Talk is cheap. They can interview me and my daughter. No problem and I would be happy to do it. What a crock of sh*t this has become. I'm sorry everyone but I know fathers and mothers who are now helping their kids navigate abuse after their first year of college. The whole thing is a mess. Yes, we got some coaches that are good but they are hard to find. We need real men and real fathers to lead in this to help our dd's and their sons.
 
Quotes from the great TM sockma. A lady who felt it was her job to defend all the TM/GM who have a thankless job because "some" did a thankless job and got in the middle of other parents kids recruiting and play time. Ruthless cancers to a team!!! She is the expert because she has 17 years experience. She is a know it all and these types cause so much division on the team and can be nasty and abusive towards a little girl they can't control. Keep writing lady. Parents want to hear the bee's before they sting and what "some" TMs are up to and what their true motives are, like talking to college coaches on our child's behalf.

"Life is a marathon, not a bee sting you encountered 7 years ago"

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"YOU ruined it for your kid because you can't appreciate other people when they are trying to help."

"I was a TM for one year and I hated it because of parents like you who were ungrateful"

"So a TM tried to help (or hurt) your kid out by putting in a good word (or bad word) in with a college?"

"Did you think that Coaches don't ask around about players? That's part of their job. They want to know what type of human being they are bringing into their program." (It's the TM's job to share their truth?)

"I had to deal with ungrateful people like you all the time who expected team managers to be perfect and mute" (and we had to deal with nasty TMs like you)

"The TM May be one (out of many) resource coaches use,"

"they're (the TM) answering questions that are posed to them by coaches, like they're suppose to." (I had no idea. I thought the TM was handing out flyers)
 
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Slobodan said:
How would the NCAA prevent pro scouts from communicating? They could lower the age restrictions but that defeats the purpose of why they made the change to begin with. Honestly, for what these women are paid, you're talking about top tier players being lost by top tier programs, right? The Stanfords and North Carolinas? I don't have a ton of sympathy for those programs. That's a "next up" deal for them.
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The restrictions are on the boys side, I don't think it's the same for girls.

The issue is having the restrictions at all. Pro scouts from US and European academies are free to talk to my son and talk up their programs while the D1 NCAA coaches who come to watch his games can't even say boo. So right now, he's much more excited to "go pro" when it's more than possible that that isn't the right option for him. We can't tell, because we don't know the level of interest from NCAA schools. Everything opens up this summer, but we'll be in Europe.
 
focomoso said:
Sorry, I just checked with a friend and it's the same for girls.
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Don't apologize... I was just thinking out loud and asking. Assuming a kid that wants to turn 'pro', out of high school, is one of those that just loves the game, willing to risk it all, and can always go to college later. He/she is a 1% player, right? They won't play in college but that's the rub. Part of me appreciates the option but, as a parent that fully believes college is the better choice and for multiple reasons, I feel your pain. I suppose money factors in as well. No different than signing with the Yankees vs. playing in college... at least I would think.

Or are you describing an academy program that doesn't pay the kids? Would assume they keep their amateur status, yes? Isn't that where D1 schools here pick up all those Euro players?
 
Club Registrar here (SoCal, US Soccer, former USYS)

USYS doesn’t allow more than one card per player, though the system used to allow a few cards to be printed when players were on two rosters. Loaning a player required obtaining the card, which managers were responsible for with approval.

US Soccer/SoCal allows multiple cards to be printed and allows electronic versions as well, but only the issuing club is authorized to use them. Just having a card or a copy of one is not authorization to guest play and their insurance for the player and the team will NOT be valid. Tournaments don’t care and don’t know the rules.

To guest play with a US Soccer card, the borrowing team must fill out and sign a form, send it to the lending team who will fill out their portion and sign, then it must be emailed to US Club before start of play. Only then will the card be a valid card.

With non competing leagues, it’s sometimes easier to just register the player and cancel it when no longer needed.
 
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