But isn't the MLS basically a closed league anyway, with special permission required if you even want to play in a non-MLS tournament. Additionally, any MLS team in a non-MLS tournament should just play up - they are elite, so shouldn't have a problem, right!
I remember a long time ago my kids build put line went to Arizona to scrimmage a "Mexican league" team . At U10 they allowed goalies booting it and headers.
Should have said "build out line team"
Mexico isn't exactly covering itself in glory recently. They have many of the same problems we do: an obsession with winning, an academy structure with some limitations, a game that relies on physicality rather than technique, an inability to transition their U18s to a pro path. About the only thing they do better than us is cast a wider net for recruitment (including from affiliated rec clubs in the United States).
My daughter when she was u9-u11 played on a boys team in a Mexican league, no build out line when she. Exactly how you described it.
I didn’t say that was insider info? Just when I asked what study they were using this is what he sent me. I’m pretty sure I said it was public somewhere I just didn’t care enough to look it up. Also I’m pretty sure I said the real power point info was not something I was able to get.
So, the "insider" info turns out to be cut and paste.
@Carlsbad7 always has impeccable sources, never has an agenda, and always argues in good faith. Don't believe me? Just ask her.
I asked what study they were using to show RAE has not improved? The one posted was what he sent me and is a public posted study and I believe is the most recent one done? I’m not sure when I said anything to “try” and get you to believe anything otherwise? Does the fact that this study was posted in May 24 make it not real information? I just don’t understand the argument you are trying to make?
The only source that I've seen reguarding this subject is when ECNL leadership discussed changing back from BY to SY in a podcast.
i know we don't play anything outside of academy scheduling. there are so many games and showcases, etc. that everyone else changing their birth year, school year, dogs years, isn't going to do anything for us. business as usual..lol..
You’re trying to build authority and credibility by passing off a study as insider information.
I would advise you to go back to the beginning read what was originally said from the forum poster. As well as look at the screen shots I posted which all ended up being facts. As confirmed from the ECNL president AFTER I posted them here.
It was a joke? It’s a quote from the show the office. I guess it wasn’t funny.
I am curious if there is data out there on drop-out rates post the 2017 change. If the YNT/MNT don't seem to have much influence from RAE, then we know unicorns will always float to the top no matter the cut off. Are there less players at older ages or in college then pre-change? No matter the cut-off someone is the youngest and someone is 364 days older. In either case, those on the tail end that stick with it and/or are late developers do gain skill advantages when learning how to solve problems presented by bigger, stronger opponents.Verbatim US Soccer's RAE rationalization for birth year change in 2017:
The focus moves away from bigger, faster, stronger
-Changing to birth year registration doesn’t eliminate relative age effect (RAE) because whenever there is a defined age range, someone will be the oldest and someone will be the youngest
-However, this change does help better understand and account for RAE
-Parents and coaches should have an increased awareness of a player’s birth month relative to his or her peer group and level of performance
-This should help combat focusing on kids that appear to be better simply because 6 they are up to 364 days older than a teammate or opponent
Now if any of you parents that had kids playing in 2017, particularly youngers, and you want to torture yourself, you can read below all of the "Player Development Initiatives", like BY, buildout line, small-sides, etc and the claimed benefits (aka BS). You can thank me later.
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While done with good intentions, the initiatives have done nothing to improve player development and the landscape has only gotten worse in the last 7 years.
BY is supposed to help YNT at the expense of 33% of trapped players' soccer experience. But in reality, YNT players usually play up, so BY is meaningless to them. An SDSC 2010 player called in the YNT camp is currently playing two years up in their 2008 ECNL team.
Overall soccer participation has gone down in the last 10 years. But the birthrate has also gone down in the last 10 years. So it's difficult to tell what if any effect switching to BY had on the number of players.
I would guess that the 2017 initiatives didn't have much impact on participation. I think what is having more of an impact is all the competition platforms and letter leagues all claiming to be a "pathway" to god knows what. How is a new soccer parent supposed to navigate youth soccer? When my son started club soccer in San Diego it was just Presidio and DA(boys)/ECNL(girls) when you were older. Now we have at least MLS Next, EA, EA2, ECNL, ECNL-R, Pre-ECNL, NPL, SOCAL, USL-Y on the boys side. This is after we burned through SDDA, Discovery and others. It's a complete disaster (to quote Landon Donovan), and a complete clusterf%&k (to quote me).
Youth sports participation is down as a percent of youth population across most sports.
