G2010...how’s the season going 2019?

Luis Andres said:
Me too I can't think to comprehend that. The only thing I thought was that since Blues had the finals spot pretty much in the bag. The Blues coach didn't play their best line up. But according to @Sockers858 he said that Surf plays very competitive games against the Blues. Similar to the way Legends play competitively against the Blues and have even beat them. And Today they lose 3-0 to the Eagles and we play very competitive games against the Eagles and tied the Eagles last week during regulation. Boggles my mind. Cause trust me we haven't been outplayed like that by a 2010 team ever.
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Maybe they’ve played each other enough, Surf figured out how to counter.
 
Vic the Prick said:
Finally the administrator approved my account. After waiting days and seeing on here what this chump has to say. I’m here to shut him up once and for all. @Luis Andres Man when I see you I’m gonna let you have it. I read all the crap you wrote on here and it’s boiling my blood. How dare you. He thinks he is the cream of the crop. Who the hell pulls up to games driving a Porsche 911GT3 and bumping ice ice ice baby by Vanilla Ice. You should see him, he looks like an idiot. Show off...grow up.

First of all do people know why you haven’t been coming to the games? Did you tell them why? He made a scene at the Slammers tournament over the summer. His darling dear blew a pass on a semifinal game and the other team scored. He flipped the fxck out. said he was done with the team and made a whole scene on the field In front of everyone. Supposedly he’s been watching games live on his little camera cause the team manager banned him from the games. Haha chump. He claims to know it all. And he thinks he is some soccer guru. Yes I admit his little girl is good, best player on the team and everyone has said it to him and now he thinks he is the Don and the reason why she is so good. I got news for you. Your not the one training her. You just fork out your money to make her good. He spends hundreds of dollars taking her to camps and all these other places and then tells the rest of the team they should be doing the same but not everybody can afford it. He’s dropped thousands of dollars into her training. And expects the rest to do the same.


I remember when KC, Olivia Moultrie’s Father was with the team last year. They had their little one playing there. Those two would sit on the side and analyze & criticize the players. Who’s good and who has the potential to make it to the next level blah blah blah. KC would say things like if you want to see how the little girl will end up in the future just look at the mom. Pointing to the heavier set ladies and then claiming that they had no chance to play college soccer because of genetics. That chump KC would feed this guy Luis Andres all this crap and he would swallow it all up. KC thought Olivia is the best thing that happened to women’s soccer. He’s turned her into a soccer slave. No social life whatsoever. These guys are whackos. Just cause they have really good players they think they are untouchable.
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Luis Andres said:
By the way you are spot on with your analysis. Props. #12 is the player that's been doing all the extra training outside of practice with my DD from the get go. Her Father and I see eye to eye and understand the importance of Technical development outside of practice and how that is the key to infusing the right confidence and abilities needed in developing a good player with IQ. #12 is the true example of what hard work and effort can do to a player. #7 is a natural talent. Multi-sports meant to play the game. A natural striker at heart. A fearless player that can be dangerous at any given moment. If she put in the extra work like my DD and #12 towards soccer she could turn into a striker that all teams will fear. And please don't refer or even attempt to mention my DD in that way as I have never said she was a unicorn like player destined to play for the WMNT. She is the clear example of talent meeting hard work and effort. She has the right physical qualities needed to one day be a great player if she decides to keep working hard towards that goal in the future. And never ever underestimate any kid and say that they cannot make it or meet their goals later down the line. Wether she wants to be a professional player or a dream to possibly play one day for the USWNT is up to her only she can define her purpose and work towards a goal as such. If she decides to not play soccer later, that's fine as well. She is still very young. And to all those saying that no team will want her cause of me. Trust me you are so wrong and out of line. There is already a waiting list and invites to come practice with them and I'm talking big teams. And they won't have an issue with me because those parents are just like me competitive and understand that both development and winning go hand in hand. They just don't come out here and say it like I do. Its all about finding the right fit.
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One thing I agree with. Everyone is so wrong if they think their team will not be interested in your daughter because of your behavior. I believe you when you say teams are lining up at your doorstep. At the end of the day, every club wants the top players, regardless of parents behavior.
 
XBZ said:
Bravo Evelyn!!!! If your coach isn't reading please pass on or as parents insist on a very simple solution. We had a coach tell our group of well behaving parents a few years ago at the intro meeting that if there were issues on sidelines the coach would simply remove the player or restrict playing time until the parent got a grip. Your coach has the ultimate control, whether or not his daughter steps on the field, a very effective muzzle. No way your team would be performing at this level unless you had a bunch of other stellar players. Everyone reading this forum cringes when he insists his daughter is great and everyone else blew it. I was told your normal center back and goalie were heroic today. Let them shine, not fair for #2 but yank her until dad gets some self awareness. Never seen anything like it.
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The Big Clubs make you sign a "parent contract" and one of them is not posting on this public forum. Parent problems have been going on forever with youth sports. Give Luis a little mercy. American youth soccer is not easy to understand. He just got a taste of the Blues and let me tell you, the Blues will give you a dose of reality of what it takes to have Ganas and the winning formula all the time. RR is a master coach and recruiter at this age. Experince always wins out :)
 
I would stay off the forum if RR was knocking on my door. Luis, if you find yourself at Blues, go meditate, do some yoga. Hand write your thoughts, put them in a time capsule and look at them when your DD is all grown up. You two can have a good laugh over them.
 
Socal0 said:
I would stay off the forum if RR was knocking on my door. Luis, if you find yourself at Blues, go meditate, do some yoga. Hand write your thoughts, put them in a time capsule and look at them when your DD is all grown up. You two can have a good laugh over them.
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RR would never, ever go on this forum. He doesn't need to. He never talks to parents anyways, only coaches the girls. No one can survive these crazy parents if they talked to them all the time. That's why RR and TB are so successful. They know the secret to recruiting the best of the best and not to talk with daddy or mommy except at the very beginning of the season. Feel honored if they watch your kid. Doesn't mean you need to play for them but it should give any parent a little pride :)
 
@Luis Andres

Think this threads getting so many hits because parents are freaking out about what club your goats going to end up and don't want it to be theirs.

When is national signing day for your DD? To piss even more masses off you should make a decision day video like a 5 star high school football recruit.

"Luis Andres, The Decision 2020"

Post it to YouTube and profit. Your video will spread faster then any STD at Arizona State.
 
you've made such a complete ass of yourself that when DD's start telling parents that the #2 from Ole showed up at their practice there will be enough parents who read your comments throwing a fit that those coaches will have to seriously consider whether they need the distraction.
 
newwavedave said:
That's why RR and TB are so successful. They know the secret to recruiting the best of the best and not to talk with daddy or mommy except at the very beginning of the season.
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Can you mass send this post to 98% of all clubs in so cal and also post this at every age group on the forum in hopes that some parents will understand they are doing more harm then good.
 
bossman said:
I think you are missing the whole point/purpose of competitive club sports (and not just from a money generating business point of view).

We pay a lot of money and as parents/customers, we have the right to critique and demand better. Sometimes that is the only way the team/club can improve.

Having said that, not all 9 year olds are built the same and MOST are not cut out for competitive club sports. That is why we have rec style where everybody plays and it doesn't matter if you win or lose. Some girls have this drive inside to be better than everyone else and get upset when other people on the team don't share that same passion.

This forum is a healthy place for that as we can share those feelings with like-minded individuals. Some will agree, some will disagree, but all will be civil...it's just sports talk.
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I don't think Evelyn is missing any point. She's not telling Luis not to criticize the team, she's asking him to do it in a private setting and not expose the her child's youth soccer team to a reality tv soccer forum setting. Club Soccer is a competitive setting, coach and players can put pressure on anyone to work harder or try harder but parents should stay out of it. You paid to have your kid on a soccer team to learn and grow as a soccer player and as a team player. You did not pay to openly criticize other people's children on a public forum - that you can do for free but you better be ready for criticism to be handed to you too. If you can't handle a few things Evelyn says about you, how do you think those little girls and their parents feel when you criticize their children? It's not okay to blame the defensive line publicly on a soccer forum. What do you think happens in a job setting or a professional athletic team if a parent publicly starts blaming teammates and co-workers?

And if Luis is going to come on a soccer forum and express himself whenever he feels like it, without concern or regards for anyone on his team, then Evelyn ( or anyone with freedom of speech) has a right to tell him to STFU.

That being said - I find Luis' comments very entertaining as they remind me of all the overly critical and involved parents from my children's younger days.

Evelyn - we know almost every team has a Luis. We feel bad for your team that he's making your team turn into a reality forum show for our entertainment. It's one of those things I want to put on ignore but just can't seem to. #GUILTYPLEASURES
 
bossman said:
I think you are missing the whole point/purpose of competitive club sports (and not just from a money generating business point of view).

We pay a lot of money and as parents/customers, we have the right to critique and demand better. Sometimes that is the only way the team/club can improve.

Having said that, not all 9 year olds are built the same and MOST are not cut out for competitive club sports. That is why we have rec style where everybody plays and it doesn't matter if you win or lose. Some girls have this drive inside to be better than everyone else and get upset when other people on the team don't share that same passion.

This forum is a healthy place for that as we can share those feelings with like-minded individuals. Some will agree, some will disagree, but all will be civil...it's just sports talk.
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I agree with most of what you said. We should expect the best considering not only the financial investment, but also the time investment that we make into the club on and off the field. We should be able to address concerns and expect changes/improvement, but there's a way of doing it. I don't think "critiquing and demanding better" of players on a public has a positive outcome or produces results. I don't think there's anything wrong with comparing/critiquing teams, but when you begin to make references to specific players even though names aren't used, it's not the way to go. Maybe I haven't been on here very long or don't spend enough time reading the thread, but I don't see other members placing blame on players on their kid's team. Perhaps you wouldn't mind if a parent on your team makes references about your kid or other kids from the team on a public forum; good for you! Others do mind. It doesn't make us less competitive or we expect every player to get equal playing time, etc. It's okay for us people, like you said, to come here and disagree civilly and give a different perspective.
 
My best buddy right now is the GK dad. We both give each other permission to point out the obvious when one of our dds cracks under pressure. Its what happens to every athlete. Blues recruits but they also cut every year. A true coach will cut every year to make the team stronger.
Evelyn Gonzalez said:
I agree with most of what you said. We should expect the best considering not only the financial investment, but also the time investment that we make into the club on and off the field. We should be able to address concerns and expect changes/improvement, but there's a way of doing it. I don't think "critiquing and demanding better" of players on a public has a positive outcome or produces results. I don't think there's anything wrong with comparing/critiquing teams, but when you begin to make references to specific players even though names aren't used, it's not the way to go. Maybe I haven't been on here very long or don't spend enough time reading the thread, but I don't see other members placing blame on players on their kid's team. Perhaps you wouldn't mind if a parent on your team makes references about your kid or other kids from the team on a public forum; good for you! Others do mind. It doesn't make us less competitive or we expect every player to get equal playing time, etc. It's okay for us people, like you said, to come here and disagree civilly and give a different perspective.
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Hi there, firstly let me say I'm impressed your taking this on head to head with Luis. He has to learn from this. My first time on this forum was u9 6 years ago. Some asshole was making fun of my dd. She was this little 4 ft striker and she cried when big girls whacked her in the box for crying. No name, just #7 is a cry big baby. No joke!!! I've never left here except for two years when I promised the club she was at I would behave and not post. They already knew about my posts. I never talked about kids but I did give away too much info before tournaments like we will be short handed or the injury report would come out too early. I did make excuses when we lost. Luis is taking it to another level.
 
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bossman said:
I think the most valuable thing I can receive is CONSTRUCTIVE criticism...I would welcome it for myself and would welcome it about my child (as sometimes parents can't see their own kids in the same light as others). I fully understand and respect that. It's the best way to improve.

I think bashing without any constructive advice is definitely harmful (as that is obviously the intention behind it). I have read most of what Luis has said, and (from what I have read personally), I have seen positive intentions (and not just empty bashing). He provides positive examples of how other kids/teams out-perform theirs and what the team should strive for.

I want to also add...not all parents are built for club/competitive sports either. The team is composed of the parents, the kids, the coach, and the club. Some can't accept criticism about their children, regardless of the intention. AYSO is a great fit for those parents. When choosing a club (or attending tryouts), it is important to evaluate the parents, coach, kids, and club to decide if you are all on the same page/competitive level.

Again, the whole point of this forum is to discuss everything soccer...and that's what is going on here. Nothing wrong as long as nobody takes anything personal.
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I have also read most of his posts referencing our players. Just a difference of opinion, I don't find constructive criticism pointing out who "choked" during PKs, us losing a game because of our last defenders, or a player who returned on the field after an injury being the reason why we lost. They are just opinions. He and anyone has that right to do so, but it doesn't accomplish a positive outcome for the team to do it on the forum. You want to think it, cool. We all critique/analyze during games. I see nothing wrong with critiquing our team on what we could do better on a forum, but I/others find it unproductive to point out players due to a loss. If it matters so much to give constructive criticism about another kid, tell the parents in person. Just by two cents.
 
Luis Andres said:
Trust me I would never go to a team having those types of values and beliefs inside its organization & culture. Second season doing club soccer and I gotta say I've learned a great deal from all the vets on here with their different points of views and perspectives around this subject matter and others like the big "Development" picture one and also what it takes to navigate the Club soccer atmosphere. And yes absolutely you may have the @XBZ or @smellycleats77 type of parent in those teams that will put a muzzle on the "Dad Dog" of the team for his barking and sit his DD out of games and just end up cornering the mutt against the wall and then see him begging to stay on the team because he has no other options and his wife and DD are feeling all emotional about the situation when they have him pinned to the corner. Versus the type of mutt who's actually got the playing cards to bet and double down that whatever you say is simply nonsense. An that at the end of the day may have an actual deeper understanding and reasoning towards the purpose of the behavior and perception emanated from his actions and persona to manipulate a desired outcome that will push the player and team development aspect of the process towards faster and more robust growth. Thus actually adding more value to everyones end final product. Player and Team.

For me it's more like making a business decision. If you let your emotions get in the way of doing the right thing you may find yourself heading in a southern direction and soon to be out of business due to the decision. And for the club heading in a direction where you will not develop the type of team that you aim to create and the type of club or organization that you wish to form. For me It’s simple, It comes down to finding the right team environment and coaching style that fits what you look for. But one must understand. That the process the environment for how club soccer has evolved in America has forced and created a business model that revolves around teams needing to maintain status & popularity for its product to sustain a standard for the way their product comes out. If we take Surf or Blues or any other large club soccer organization. The reason why they sit at the top of the food chain versus the mom and pop teams is because they understand that they can't make decisions based on emotions. Sometime they gotta do the ugly things that no one else wants to do to maintain their product and attract certain types of players needed in order for them to meet the goals of the product they put out. Wether its right, wrong or ethical or unethical is another topic for debate and the direct result of what most people value and are willing to open their wallets for. So when you have a product that's in high demand and that's in low supply. You can guarantee there will be customers. @Emma and @Evelyn Gonzalez have their own argument and a perspective with their own respectable points of views. As do I but I'll leave that for a later time to come back with my rebuttal. It's not just fact or Vic I'm going against here, these ladies are some heavy weights right here. It's a battle that I need to contemplate getting myself into because of who I'm facing here. But in fairness yes they make a point. And I'll be back to give my own perspective and point of view on how I see a different and maybe a bigger picture that most don't see.
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We need the 30,000 foot perspective only :)
 
bossman said:
I think the most valuable thing I can receive is CONSTRUCTIVE criticism...I would welcome it for myself and would welcome it about my child (as sometimes parents can't see their own kids in the same light as others). I fully understand and respect that. It's the best way to improve.

I think bashing without any constructive advice is definitely harmful (as that is obviously the intention behind it). I have read most of what Luis has said, and (from what I have read personally), I have seen positive intentions (and not just empty bashing). He provides positive examples of how other kids/teams out-perform theirs and what the team should strive for.

I want to also add...not all parents are built for club/competitive sports either. The team is composed of the parents, the kids, the coach, and the club. Some can't accept criticism about their children, regardless of the intention. AYSO is a great fit for those parents. When choosing a club (or attending tryouts), it is important to evaluate the parents, coach, kids, and club to decide if you are all on the same page/competitive level.

Again, the whole point of this forum is to discuss everything soccer...and that's what is going on here. Nothing wrong as long as nobody takes anything personal.
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I don't think it's constructive criticism to say on a public forum that the lateral movement of the defense is at fault for the loss. Do you think that if the defense did more lateral sprints on their off day, they would have beat the Blues? Did he say anything about the Midfielders not anticipating the ball well enough and dropping deep enough to cover? Or whether the frontline put enough pressure to prevent the big forward pass? Maybe he should have said the team needs to work on cutting off passing angles at the defensive third more, that includes his player and is constructive. To blame the lost on defenders for not running sideways fast enough is not constructive.

Like you, I've read all of what Luis has written since he's jumped on this website. I even gave him the benefit of the doubt when he went on here at the beginning and was criticizing his team. He deleted all those posts after some of us on the forum gave him some constructive criticism. Then he gets comfortable and starts doing it again after a finals loss to the Blues. He couldn't control himself because he let the emotion of a Ulittle final game loss takeover his self control. Choking under pressure?

I agree that not all parents can accept criticism about their children but that has nothing to do with Evelyn's right to give constructive criticism to Luis on a public forum.

Evelyn is giving him constructive criticism. She's clearly telling him, if you have something constructive as a parent within a team, talk to the coach and parents, don't go on a local public forum and vent. Go to the Texas or Norcal forum, make up a fake team name and ask for advice there.

Luis is not listening to what people are telling him. His actions affect kids and parents on the team, including his own kid and wife. His wife and kid don't want him at the games. Yet he chooses to ignore everyone else in his life in order to satisfy his need to blame other people for losses, including 8/9 year old players, a coach that is developing all his players, and parents bc he thinks they don't take enough of his advice.
 
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