CharlieMurfee
SILVER ELITE
Could it be that Sporting wants to repeat as champions? Or LAFC trying to atone for their lost to Sporting? Or is it that the only true team here is a 2011 Blues ‘Pre ECNL’ team??? The plot thickens
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That Blues 2011’s team is already nasty! If they stack it with 2010’s NL players… tips the scales a bit.
rainbow_unicorn
PREMIER
In the eyes of 2010 ECNL teams this is probably just a tournament where these teams can potentially win. No way these teams win ECNL nationals (or may not even qualify for playoffs)...so this is an opportunity for teams to bring home hardware. Plus the timing works out where ECNL league play is on pause from Dec - Mar. The danger to this though is if an ECNL team gets bounced out early by a non-ECNL team which ends up not being a good look for the team.
Code
GOLD
Because everyone that is outside of ECNL/GA is convinced that the teams are at the same level of play as NPL/Premier teams; lot of smack talking about wasting money to participate in ECNL/GA, for the same challenge as local play. SOCAL probably didn't expect such lopsided results, but they should have known better. State Cup provides one of the few events to get a true unbiased head-to-head opportunity against teams in any league. It's a bit disappointing some GA teams didn't show up. Probably due to State Cup play being drawn out way too long.
MyKidsDriver
SILVER
Looks like most ECNL teams don’t participate but that is by choice. I guess that’s why they have players available to loan to their younger teams playing up a year (like Blues). But there appears to be so much loaning and guesting in state cup, it’s hard to say it’s a true gauge of the participating teams.
I‘m no fan of ECNL teams looking down on the rest of the world, but they do have a point. For them, the first round mismatches look like a complete waste of time.
If organizers want the strong teams to join state cup, they should create a system for earning first and second round byes. Maybe last year’s semi-finalists get a free pass to the round of 16.
So kind of like a regular tournamant?
Maybe they could hold it I the middle of the summer on the Polo Fields in SD + call it Surf Cup?
;-)
futboldad1
PREMIER
The ECNL teams in it, from the two sidelines I spoke to, said their coach said they entered them as a kind of pre-season for part two of the ECNL league season so I doubt there are many guests for the age appropriate teams but maybe somebody could get hold of rosters....I guess entering this is easier for the coaches than trying to schedule scrimmages and deal with plans falling through....logic makes sense.....anyways semi finals is 3 ECNL teams and a pre-ECNL team....says it all......
Willy Falcon
SILVER
100% true. The ECNL teams that entered used it as a preseason to stay active. With the rain and schedule changes it appears to have backfired on on a few teams.
Example is Sporting. If they win in the semi final, it'll trigger them to play 5 games in 8 days. They have 3 league games next week.
Socal does State Cup
After U13 (2010 right now) most ECNL clubs place their 1st teams in ECNL, 2nd teams in ECRL, and 3rd teams in Socal.
After U13 (2010 right now) most GA clubs place their 1st teams in GA, second teams in DPL, and 3rd teams in Socal.
The only "ECNL" team that winning State Cup at U13/2010 would "says it all..." is Blues 2011 PreECNL who are playing up a year and dominating. The rest are playing against lower level competion + bottomfeeding for wins.
I dont want to take anything away from the Blues 2011 Pre ECNL team. Watched them play once + they're very good.
Sure. To complete the effect, they could require overpriced hotel stays and rework the brackets to give Surf teams a free pass to semi-finals!
Honestly, state cup is already just a tournament for the better teams. It also includes the group stage, but that isn't really part of the attraction.
justneededaname
SILVER ELITE
I believe State Cup is sanctioned by US Club Soccer. GA is USSSA and E64 is USYS. Clubs would have to register those players with US Club in order to be able to play. Clubs not wanting to incur the extra expense may explain the lack of teams from those leagues in State Cup.
futboldad1
PREMIER
let's be clear if there was tournament with every club team in the state the semi finals of each age group would most likely be 4 ECNL teams....they would be a different four than these four but they'd still be ECNL teams....that what "says it all" refers to, when ECNL teams enter things they go far....just look at Surf Cup top brackets the past couple years if you think I'm wrong....
futboldad1
PREMIER
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Teddy_Olive
BRONZE
LA Breakers ECNL won 3-1 over Sporting ECNL
LAFC ECNL won 2-0 over Blues G11 Pre-ECNL
LAFC ECNL vs LA Breakers ECNL in Finals
LAFC ECNL won 2-0 over Blues G11 Pre-ECNL
LAFC ECNL vs LA Breakers ECNL in Finals
SoccerSpoiler
SILVER ELITE
No 2011 team should be beating a 2010 team especially ecnl. Good job 2010 teams in showing who’s boss. Blues 2011 not so hot given they had NL players. Forwards definitely choked couldn’t produce a goal versus a good defensive lafc team.
Soccerisfun2022
BRONZE
Not so hot? Being the no1 2011 team in CA surely is not a bad days work.
MyKidsDriver
SILVER
How does Discovery NPL fit into this breakdown?
Discovery is a promotion/relegation Division of Socal league.
NPL part is for the top Socal Discovery teams to play top teams from other NPL member leagues in showcase type tournaments.
It's the same structure that GA or ECNL use for funneling top teams into playing each other via traveling to a specific location. The big difference is the regional Discovery leagues are all seperate entities as opposed to GA or ECNL which are both a single entity.