ECNL vs. DA turf war has created a 'toxic environment'

[MacDre]

And the football players image was a bunch of dumb meathead jocks. Back at my high school both football and soccer team was Mexican kids difference was most the football players were 2nd or 3rd generation in America with parents that grew up here too spoke English and raised kids on football and baseball and the soccer players were first generations parents not speaking English raising their kids in soccer. I wouldn't say they were looked at as squares just more like less than them, more poor, less educated even though both sides were poor and went to the same f'd up schools. Everybody's circle is different. I don't think image is a huge problem for soccer but maybe it is in your circle and good for you and your daughter for being secure enough to not give a F what they think or say

Good point made by Kicker. Maybe it is a bigger problem

High school players don’t influence popular culture. They’re influenced by popular culture.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

What statistics are you talking about? So you think that a league with 65% black players should only have 2 black coaches? Let me guess you also probably think that it isn't odd that most women's soccer teams are coached by men. You are probably loving the response to COVID-19 that your boy is putting together too.

I gave you the stats, Map. I think, when you're 13% of the population, and you maintain 65% of the jobs in the league, it's bullshit to insist teams interview you for a coaching job. Nevermind the 'insult' component. I don't care if 20 of the 30 head coaches are black. I don't care if there's 2. The job should go to the best candidate, as determined by the organization, but to demand an interview because you're somehow being overlooked or blackballed (pun intended) is bullshit.

My boy? Who said I love Trump? I think the liberal party is a bigger disgrace than anything Trump has said or done. That's why he'll win again. ANd frankly, there isn't anyone doing any better. Cuomo is a fucking clown in NY and Gavin is a Pelosi phony.
Aside from that, tip of the cap to your daughter and her success. She's one of the few that slayed both heads of the dragon. Hopefully they play soon.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Not in my circles. It’s an image thing. Soccer is for squares. I took my kid to an NFL event and she had on a Paul Pogba Jersey...everyone thought Pogba was her nickname.

Yeah but that's not a surprise about Pogba. If they knew was a diva he was, you could put him in a Terrell Owens jersey and it's the same dude. I don't know what circles you run in but up and down the Stanford roster... Cal... Santa Clara... east bay kids all over the place.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

ECNL teams do this too. Maybe not SoCal teams but look at the Midwest conference. Lots of distance between clubs.

I can see that. But in NorCal and SoCal, you can get 5 great games within 1-2 hours by car. Flying to another state is fucking ridiculous.

 

[MyDaughtersAKeeper]

@MyDaughtersAKeeper Hello, anyone there? I re-read your intimidation threat PM again this morning. I had a vision in my dream last night about why someone would PM something like that and who would do such a thing. What club is this person with? Is his/her/both dd truly A Keeper? Do they know me personally or do they know others at the club that knew me? I need to confess to everyone that my answers to many of my "Hey, what's going on" in Socal Soccer get revealed to me in my sleep. I wake up and jump out of bed and race to my computer and look for new PMs. In July and August of last year, I was hated and laughed at. People laughed at me when I said the GDA will be no more. "Hahahahahah" they said. "Ignore the fool" Listen all you fathers out their with a teenage girl. When you treat the WNT as second and then treat the top 13 year olds like they did, it's easy to predict failure. Woman are on the rise and have a voice in America. Like I said before, my mother was adopted in 1919 three times until she was finally wanted at 2 years old. She in turn had four of her own and adopted or fostered 8 other little kids. That is what you call serving others. My wife is my Angel and my dd is my Angel girl. My son is just steady and chill and he and I are best pals. He comes home from SDSU bummed out. I talked with him about how you need to make the most of all this. He get's a delivery job and made $75 working 3 hours last night, all for shopping for others. He told me this is all working out like you said daddy. Little did he know I've been a little scared of this country and how it will respond to adversity and what will really happen. I live each day as if it's my last. At least with me you know where I stand.

I have not logged into the forum in awhile. I am still here, and I just responded to the DMs you sent me. My daughter is in fact a keeper.
I don't know you aside from what you posted. I wish you and your daughter nothing but the best of luck on and off the field.

 

[Ellejustus]

I have not logged into the forum in awhile. I am still here, and I just responded to the DMs you sent me. My daughter is in fact a keeper.
I don't know you aside from what you posted. I wish you and your daughter nothing but the best of luck on and off the field.

All good. TY for the kind PM and TY for correcting the record. I feel better and way less spooked or as some would say, "Paranoid." I did here that some powerful people run soccer so you never know. Please everyone else, I know you think I;m stupid and dumb and one big rambler, keep those comments private and to yourself. Thx

 

[ToonArmy]

Only point I attempted to make was everyone perception of soccer players is different from your hood to mine but I get what your saying didn't get it in the first post and I posted the pic of Snoop thought it was funny. he actually is a soccer fan talks about it Charles Haley Chauncey billips daughters play college soccer Chad Johnson odel grew up playing I wouldn't say any of that is an endorsement or anything enough to reach the youth in Vallejo. If you never heard the stupid stereotype of football players been meathead jocks and don't get that I'm not saying that it's anything but a stupid stereotype as is soccer players being squares then whatever I got no response but if you were trying to go somewhere with me on that then you don't know me

 

[Ellejustus]

I'm proud of everyone today for jumping into the debates. Were here in our home for a long ass time and we need to help those up at the top make better and fairer decisions for all of us regarding soccer. Full time mask wearing now if you step outside, No parks, beaches or trails now. I guess we will all see how the goats do without 7 months of soccer.

 

[Ellejustus]

Youth sports got out of hand everyone and were on lock down until God sees fit. Repent of your nonsense so we can get back to sports. Enjoy the evening with your family tonight, tomorrow night and every night thereafter for a long time. We have family every night now. Games, hikes, walk and and new game were playing against my dd. She has to juggle and we yell at her and try and distracted her and say, "miss it, miss it, miss it and "watch out" It's hard for her. We can;t touch her but we act like we will slap her in the face. Only 10 in a row. Tomorrow's another day. I told my dd based on all the info I got on the forum all she has to do is master the find art of juggling and she might get Goathood

 

[Roostah]

Thx! 2/3rds of my ACL blowouts were contact. The non contact was 20 min into the first half.

Most of the ACL injuries are non-contact and are the ones that we should be looking to reduce. If a 300 lbs lineman rolls up into your knee, there is really nothing that would have prevented that injury. The way I think about fatigue and ACL non contact injuries is that a tear usually requires tremendous force being placed on the joint. Typically players can generate the most force when they are fresh. Also can be seen in our daily experience that many girls that tear their ACL are also explosive players. Does fatigue cause some injuries and can ACL be torn late in a half, absolutely, but just pointing out that fatigue isn’t correlated with ACL injuries.

 

[Kicker4Life]

Correct. But it’s an easy fix. Get a few rappers, football, and basketball players to endorse soccer.
Soccer is the best foundational ball sport...all kids should play even if they want to play football or basketball eventually.
It would behoove the folks at USSF to figure out how to reach my community since we tend to dictate popular culture. If soccer becomes mainstream in my community then it will become mainstream in the USA.

NBA, NFL, MLB dominate. As you say, soccer is for squares. How does one change “your communities” mindset towards the game?

 

[Kicker4Life]

Most of the ACL injuries are non-contact and are the ones that we should be looking to reduce. If a 300 lbs lineman rolls up into your knee, there is really nothing that would have prevented that injury. The way I think about fatigue and ACL non contact injuries is that a tear usually requires tremendous force being placed on the joint. Typically players can generate the most force when they are fresh. Also can be seen in our daily experience that many girls that tear their ACL are also explosive players. Does fatigue cause some injuries and can ACL be torn late in a half, absolutely, but just pointing out that fatigue isn’t correlated with ACL injuries.

It is also about strength balancing. Fatigue typically accentuates those imbalances this causing undue stress in ligaments and tendons because of the toruque. In legs this stress point is the knee. Typically a quad dominate person creates overextension of the knee (the range the ACL is responsible for) and when fatigued it can’t protect the knee as much. Proper strength balancing can have a massive impact on protecting one from the likelihood of a non-contact ACL injury.

I won’t claim to be an expert, but I have had 3 ACL reconstructions (1st non contact, I blame wearing screw ins for the first time and the last 2 were contact injuries). Spent years (overall) in rehab and working with Orthopedic doctors as well as independent research. I learned a lot about the mechanics, especially as it relates to soccer. Take of it what you will.

 

[Ellejustus]

The future soccer mask. Logos & school colors extra cost. I have a friend who makes this stuff in Irvine. I bought into his private company 6 months ago. I had no idea it would blow up this fast.

 

[Ellejustus]

Well Said Evan Gettis. A good cheater should be good enough to say sorry for his cheating.

“Everybody wants to be the best player in the f-----g world, man … and we cheated that, for sure, and we obviously cheated baseball and cheated fans,” Gattis said on the podcast. “Fans felt duped. I feel bad for fans.”
“I’m not asking for sympathy or anything like that. If our punishment is being hated by everybody forever, just like, whatever. I don’t know what should be done, but something had to f-----g be done. I do agree with that, big-time. I do think it’s good for baseball that we’re cleaning it up. … And I understand that it’s not f-----g good enough to say sorry. I get it.”

Gattis also pointed out that not every player was on board with the sign-stealing. But not much was done to stop it.

"It got out of f-----g control," Gattis said. "That's why I'm actually glad that the objective truth is out there. We f----d up, and it was not right. It was wrong. It's a little easier to see it being f----d up afterwards.
"Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy we won the World Series … But once that all fades, now it's kind of different. That happened and we cheated. You can't feel that good about it."

 

[MacDre]

NBA, NFL, MLB dominate. As you say, soccer is for squares. How does one change “your communities” mindset towards the game?

If athletes and entertainers endorse soccer and make it cool kids will want to participate. My hood sees soccer as foreign and not for them. USSF has not done a good job of informing my hood about the accomplishments of Pele, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Neymar or damn near the entire French National Team. So they don’t relate, and know nothing about soccer and form stereotypes.

If mothers are given the option of their kids playing soccer prior to turning 14 most will choose soccer over pewee football. Many of the kids will also continue with soccer and/or become lifelong fans.

I see Drake at Toronto Games. I see e40 at Warriors games. I see Jay Z at Lakers games etc. who endorses MLS or USSF? Is there anyone with any SWAG in MLS or USSF?

Yep. Bland. No Flavor. No Swag. Boring. That’s the problem. Image is everything. Who wants to associate with an inferior product?

 

[Kicker4Life]

If athletes and entertainers endorse soccer and make it cool kids will want to participate. My hood sees soccer as foreign and not for them. USSF has not done a good job of informing my hood about the accomplishments of Pele, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Neymar or damn near the entire French National Team. So they don’t relate, and know nothing about soccer and form stereotypes.

If mothers are given the option of their kids playing soccer prior to turning 14 most will choose soccer over pewee football. Many of the kids will also continue with soccer and/or become lifelong fans.

I see Drake at Toronto Games. I see e40 at Warriors games. I see Jay Z at Lakers games etc. who endorses MLS or USSF? Is there anyone with any SWAG in MLS or USSF?

Yep. Bland. No Flavor. No Swag. Boring. That’s the problem. Image is everything. Who wants to associate with an inferior product?

See soccer in the US is in its cultural infancy. As we see teams like Atlanta United and LAFC market to an urban culture we will start to see a more diverse community adopt the sport. That is the only way it will grow.
Everywhere else in the world, soccer is a major part of the culture....every economic aspect of it.

 

[Ellejustus]

 

[gotothebushes]

If athletes and entertainers endorse soccer and make it cool kids will want to participate. My hood sees soccer as foreign and not for them. USSF has not done a good job of informing my hood about the accomplishments of Pele, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Neymar or damn near the entire French National Team. So they don’t relate, and know nothing about soccer and form stereotypes.

If mothers are given the option of their kids playing soccer prior to turning 14 most will choose soccer over pewee football. Many of the kids will also continue with soccer and/or become lifelong fans.

I see Drake at Toronto Games. I see e40 at Warriors games. I see Jay Z at Lakers games etc. who endorses MLS or USSF? Is there anyone with any SWAG in MLS or USSF?

Yep. Bland. No Flavor. No Swag. Boring. That’s the problem. Image is everything. Who wants to associate with an inferior product?

Kobe was the only one I could remember who endorse soccer.

 

[Kicker4Life]

Kobe was the only one I could remember who endorse soccer.

Steve Nash was another.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

If athletes and entertainers endorse soccer and make it cool kids will want to participate. My hood sees soccer as foreign and not for them. USSF has not done a good job of informing my hood about the accomplishments of Pele, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Neymar or damn near the entire French National Team. So they don’t relate, and know nothing about soccer and form stereotypes.

If mothers are given the option of their kids playing soccer prior to turning 14 most will choose soccer over pewee football. Many of the kids will also continue with soccer and/or become lifelong fans.

I see Drake at Toronto Games. I see e40 at Warriors games. I see Jay Z at Lakers games etc. who endorses MLS or USSF? Is there anyone with any SWAG in MLS or USSF?

Yep. Bland. No Flavor. No Swag. Boring. That’s the problem. Image is everything. Who wants to associate with an inferior product?

Perhaps a fake rapper, a rapper and a former drug dealer are not the best "Swag" for the young black male in greater Oakland. Image is everything but it shouldn't be. What image should be is someone that worked hard and became successful without shortcuts. Kobe endorsed soccer... to a degree. LeBron is a fake fan frontrunner (Liverpool). I laugh when I hear about Nipsey Hussle. Fucking guy drives into the hood wearing 5 gold chains, driving a $150k Benz and says, "don't do what I did." LMAO! The image should be "look at what you can accomplish with a pair of cleats, some hard work and your natural talent". When are rappers and/or ex-convicts that are now wealthy going to no longer be the heroes?