ECNL Expansion In Socal SW Division

Carlsbad7 said:
Why does it matter if a club has 2 ECRL teams? You're talking about 2x 2nd teams.

Last year ECNL made changes that allow coaches to play any rostered ECNL or ECRL player in an ECNL game. If you have 2x ECRL teams you have twice the amount of potential ECNL call ups.

Maybe having 2x ECRL teams will dilute the ECRL product. But who cares? Clubs with poor "diluted" ECRL teams will lose.

Personally I think allowing 2x ECRL teams is a trial balloon for allowing certain clubs to field 2x ECNL teams. Clubs like Surf or Blues could easily field 2 quality ECNL teams if given the chance.
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while youre at it, just eliminate every club in ecnl except blues and surf and give each 10 ECNL teams.
 
jimlewis said:
while youre at it, just eliminate every club in ecnl except blues and surf and give each 10 ECNL teams.
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Why is 2 ECNL teams an issue if the club continues to field top level competitive teams?

If other clubs could field multiple competitive teams they should have the opportunity as well.

Limiting a club to 1 ECNL team seems like an arbitrary rule that's not in the kids best interest. It does seem like a way to give non performing clubs a way to suck and still make $$$.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
Why is 2 ECNL teams an issue if the club continues to field top level competitive teams?

If other clubs could field multiple competitive teams they should have the opportunity as well.

Limiting a club to 1 ECNL team seems like an arbitrary rule that's not in the kids best interest. It does seem like a way to give non performing clubs a way to suck and still make $$$.
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slippery slope. why stop at 2? why not 10? then they charge 10k a kid. Slammers already have 2 anyways. and you dont just magically create additional great soccer players. who do you think makes up that 2nd ecnl team? most likely kids from the "clubs that suck"...
 
jimlewis said:
slippery slope. why stop at 2? why not 10? then they charge 10k a kid. Slammers already have 2 anyways. and you dont just magically create additional great soccer players. who do you think makes up that 2nd ecnl team? most likely kids from the "clubs that suck"...
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I agree they would come from the clubs that suck.

How is this a bad thing for top talent? They'd be able to play for a club that has the ability to win.
 
jimlewis said:
slippery slope. why stop at 2? why not 10? then they charge 10k a kid. Slammers already have 2 anyways. and you dont just magically create additional great soccer players. who do you think makes up that 2nd ecnl team? most likely kids from the "clubs that suck"...
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I would recommend that you take a starter course in economics.
 
Carlsbad7 said:
I agree they would come from the clubs that suck.

How is this a bad thing for top talent? They'd be able to play for a club that has the ability to win.
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A lot of the smaller clubs "that suck" do have one or two players that are significantly better than their teammates. Those better players want to play with others that are at their level or higher. In order to be the best you have to play with/against the best. If you have a proven product and are able to recruit, you get a few of these players together and now you have yourself a very competitive team.
 
Squishy said:
A lot of the smaller clubs "that suck" do have one or two players that are significantly better than their teammates. Those better players want to play with others that are at their level or higher. In order to be the best you have to play with/against the best. If you have a proven product and are able to recruit, you get a few of these players together and now you have yourself a very competitive team.
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I agree with you on all points. But what you're describing is not occurring at clubs that suck. Why should kids be penalized + forced to play ECNL for a poor club with poor coaching when the exact opposite would occur if winning clubs were allowed 2 ECNL teams?
 
Sike said:
I don't think they believe results this year will be a criteria. They are the only SW RCNL team without ECNL and it evens out the number of teams in ECNL. They didn't hire Dodge to build an ECRL program...they hired him because of is ties to ECNL leadership from his time with Blues.
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Pats are officially in for next year.
 
Does this put the nail in the coffin for West Coast's chances of ECNL?
GAL / DPL - solid league outside of SoCal.
 
Congrats to Pats and the girls!! and now there are an even amount of teams!
Win for neurotic people like myself!! It was killing me that the number was uneven.
 
So all five clubs, according to the press release, excelled in the ECNL regional league, just like Beach & Legends did last year, and that was the basis for their admission.

I wonder if that influences the decisions of any current GA clubs who would prefer to be in ECNL but have thus far been denied admission? Is the formula to leave the GA, crush it for a year or two in the RL and hope the ECNL eventually lets them in?

Take clubs like Top Hat, FC Virginia or Nationals, I’d have to imagine they would win every RL division with their top teams playing ECNL clubs second teams. They’d be calling the ECNL’s hand for sure.
 
Surf Zombie said:
So all five clubs, according to the press release, excelled in the ECNL regional league, just like Beach & Legends did last year, and that was the basis for their admission.

I wonder if that influences the decisions of any current GA clubs who would prefer to be in ECNL but have thus far been denied admission? Is the formula to leave the GA, crush it for a year or two in the RL and hope the ECNL eventually lets them in?

Take clubs like Top Hat, FC Virginia or Nationals, I’d have to imagine they would win every RL division with their top teams playing ECNL clubs second teams. They’d be calling the ECNL’s hand for sure.
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Pats in the Southwest division had only 2 teams in the top 4 of their age groups so far this year. I wouldn't call that excelling in regional league considering they are playing against the 2nd team from Blues, Surf, Legends etc.... Be careful what you wish for. Its going to be a rough year for Pats in ECNL next year.
 
Pateadores didn't do great at most age groups in RL, and now they have to play up another level, and to improve they have to compete for players with all the strong neighboring OC teams. Very tough.
 
Definitely will be tough to compete but they will also definitely improve from this years teams. With ECNL rosters carrying upwards of 23 players i imagine many players on the local ECNL rosters that don't get much playing time will be trying out for Pats. Doesnt necessarily make them competitive in ECNL but will be improvement. Also I imagine the better players on west coast younger GA teams will also go over. Those two clubs have been passing players back and forth since Pats was given DA and offered fully funded. Most of the top players from both clubs already left for ECNL clubs once DA collapsed. Then west coast had the upper hand on the middle tier players at the clubs because GA was more attractive to them than ECNL regional league. Now Pats is more attractive. Again doesn't make them competitive in ECNL but probably better than they were this year. Really hurts West Coast youngers. too many better options in same backyard. One way to stick a fork in west coast is if Liverpool who has DPL got in to GA which im sure West Coast is begging GA not to let happen.
 
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