ECNL Expansion In NorCal

I do.

No, "a lot of high profile athletes" have not committed suicide lately. A handful have, just as a handful always have. Just as they always have at a lower rate than those who don't have the benefits of college sports.

It is no wonder that so many kids are struggling given how many parents constantly bring home such negativity. You are seriously deterring your own kid from playing a sport in college because you're worried she might fail, not on the field but in life, because of it. Instead, you would prefer to deny her the opportunity that she might have to leverage soccer to open college opportunity for her; you'd prefer to send her to boozy dorms her freshman year with no built in friend group or an activity that is very likely to reduce the risk of rampant substance abuse when she gets there; you'd rather send her to college without the instant respect that college athletes tend to receive just being a college athlete.

Some day you will find that there will always be "too much pressure" on your child whether she plays sports, participates in debate, goes pre-med, goes into the workforce, or does anything. You'll even find there is likely to be "too much pressure" if your child doesn't do anything at all and feels left behind her peers who did play soccer or do other things, all because her daddy deterred her from doing things because everything has "too much pressure". By far the best way to reduce the "too much pressure" on your child is to be a positive and supportive parent, instead of one who constantly whines to them about how playing a child's sport is just too much for their kid and deters them from doing something they presumably enjoyed until their parent ruined it for them with their self-pity and helicopter parenting.
wait, I thought you left twitter?
 
No, it's not find to $pend and pay to play travel soccer in todays financial times that is destroying the middle class and the poor. The rich are find. The truth is this: It's $280 in Gas + $200 eating out + $50 in Parking fees = $530 a month x 10=$5300 to travel locally from town to town. When you add the $1500 a few times a year, now that's another $5,000. Plus the club fees and if you doing privates with the Doc or coach, add another $600 a month for private coaching. Add all that up for me an let me know what you can round out to be able to participate in the pay and play youth soccer in America. Socal had it made back when CSL was IT. Teams came to play in Surf Cup to prove who was #1 and that was the traveling needed. NoCal would also come here and the top clubs would go up to Nocal for tournaments. That's how it was done. Today, Socal is covered with water down soccer politics and a nice business for some dads and business people.

Kiddie soccer has destroyed the middle class and the poor? Really? No one ever forced your kid to play travel soccer. The fact that you are complaining about the cost of private coaching for a child to play a child's sport, which may be one of the most indulgent and stupidest ways possible for someone in the middle class of lower to waste money, strongly suggests that you really need to take a step back and decide what is important, and what is not. If private soccer lessons for your child are too expensive for you, then don't do it.
 
Kiddie soccer has destroyed the middle class and the poor? Really? No one ever forced your kid to play travel soccer. The fact that you are complaining about the cost of private coaching for a child to play a child's sport, which may be one of the most indulgent and stupidest ways possible for someone in the middle class of lower to waste money, strongly suggests that you really need to take a step back and decide what is important, and what is not. If private soccer lessons for your child are too expensive for you, then don't do it.
The price tag for elite soccer coaching and training is going up for todays elite soccer parents. I got free handouts Golden Gate so my cost is different compared to the rich and the middle class, don't forget that. Private "paid" lessons with the Doc or coach is tied directly to play time and favoritism. It showed the Doc exactly how much a parent is willing to pay to improve their Childs chances of success. Tell you want, let's not talk here and hog the thread. PM me and we can go private debating and not take over a thread. You can share my PMs too so no worries.
 
Why would that upset socal parents?

Socal parents have said many times that there are enough quality teams in their area that there is no reason to travel for games. 13 of the 17 teams in the southwest are in Socal. So if 10 is enough for a Norcal conference it sounds like the Socal parents have a strong argument to have their own conference as well.
 
The last time I checked, Fresno and Modesto are closer than Phoenix, Denver, and Seattle.

I’m not talking about $70 in gas for a day trip. That’s fine. The problem is $1500 in flights and hotels for a three day weekend with one decent game.
Real question. Has anyone in the valley truly applied and wanted into ECNL? I think one in Fresno would be good because there is enough talent in that area but I do wonder if they want everything that comes with ECNL
 
Socal parents have said many times that there are enough quality teams in their area that there is no reason to travel for games. 13 of the 17 teams in the southwest are in Socal. So if 10 is enough for a Norcal conference it sounds like the Socal parents have a strong argument to have their own conference as well.
With this new Nor Cal conference I'm assuming it takes away the one spring travel trip to Oregon, Wash, CO, etc. Where does Colorado team gets enough games if taking games away vs nor cal teams. I thik they had 4 games vs those teams. Interesting to see the hole alignment when that comes out/schedule for next year.

So cal can certainly have their own but what happens to the 4 other teams? No way to get enough games without traveling liek crazy although I'm sure some would be happy not to see the top so cal teams!
 
Real question. Has anyone in the valley truly applied and wanted into ECNL? I think one in Fresno would be good because there is enough talent in that area but I do wonder if they want everything that comes with ECNL
Don’t know. I know individual kids do it. There may or may not be enough of them to make a team viable under the current structure. Certainly seems like Fresno could support one if ECNL can get their costs down.
 
I dont know if the new conference really makes a difference other than a new badge. If this means no more Colorado or Crossfire games then we've accomplished only watering down the games so ECNL can form a conference. It will make me more willing to travel to So Cal just to scrimmage if this is the path that's being forged.
 
I dont know if the new conference really makes a difference other than a new badge. If this means no more Colorado or Crossfire games then we've accomplished only watering down the games so ECNL can form a conference. It will make me more willing to travel to So Cal just to scrimmage if this is the path that's being forged.
You don't always get Real Colorado or Crossfire as your opponent. Some clubs are really not worth the travel.......
 
You don't always get Real Colorado or Crossfire as your opponent. Some clubs are really not worth the travel.......
From what I know, no travel to northwest anymore. 18 total ECNL games plus showcases is my understanding. For the u16/17 ages this is helpful since their travel schedule with showcases is heavy enough.
 
ECNL should set it up where ECNL conferences are smaller and more localized. Have ECNL play local ECRL teams (that are not second teams) once a season as non-conference games. Proven ECRL teams over time can be promoted and travel is reduced as a whole. Basically, invite all the GA teams to ECRL and be done with the ECNL/DA/GA feud.
 
ECNL should set it up where ECNL conferences are smaller and more localized. Have ECNL play local ECRL teams (that are not second teams) once a season as non-conference games. Proven ECRL teams over time can be promoted and travel is reduced as a whole. Basically, invite all the GA teams to ECRL and be done with the ECNL/DA/GA feud.
Great idea but not going to happen. ECNL might have girls locked in Socal. But, not so much for the boys.

If things keep going the way that they are clubs will need to choose if they want to be a top level Girls or top level Boys club.

There's a good chance that GA might sneak into clubs on MLS Next's coattails.
 
Great idea but not going to happen. ECNL might have girls locked in Socal. But, not so much for the boys.

If things keep going the way that they are clubs will need to choose if they want to be a top level Girls or top level Boys club.

There's a good chance that GA might sneak into clubs on MLS Next's coattails.
This is what happened when a few pissed off clubs in Socal and a few older woman all felt the DA was not treating the girls equal and like men so they forced us all in the GDA and started to teach, coach and treat the girls like boys. It sucked!! I watched it and it was a joke. I know when I say this I piss off a few daddy's who thought the GDA was the best thing since slice bread and I understand why you feel that way, trust me. 5 years later and soccer is a joke and controlled a by a small few so they can make money and their kids can go play in college. Yippie!!! Soccer needs to be set free like Twitter. Lock these poor girls in gages and tell them how to behave, how to sing and how to be happy. No freedom. We need big change, my poo :)
 
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