smellycleats
SILVER ELITE
I believe you’re right. Once again, rules in place are designed to protect the adults in the situation, not the kids.
Do you think if a club has an issue of a coach having inappropriate relations with a child it...
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Actually that is not correct. Employers can say a lot more than most people think. They may want to limit what they say out of fear of retribution, but they can give all the details.
OrangeCountyDad
SILVER ELITE
yes, true - they can say whatever they want, but possibly open the organization up to legal action from the terminated employee. not saying it's right, just that it is. unfortunately the law protects groomers as much as wrongly terminated customer service agents.
Surfref
PREMIER
It will be interesting to see how and what they present in the story. Could be a black eye for Albion or they may spin it as Albion did all the right things. I will have to remember to set my cable box to record the news.
outside!
DA
I have set my DVR to record it. They did a little preview last night during the news. It looks like the go to TS's house to talk to him.
El Clasico
GOLD
So is the guy still coaching someplace or is he unemployed?
As some of the people on this site know, the producer of the segment contacted people he thought had information on this site through DMs. He contacted me because Really!?! is the one that said his wife turned him in. Unfortunately, I had to tell him that I am not the Really!?! that made that claim (I inherited his account when I caught him badmouthing people) and that I feel that a lot of the posters about the issue on this site was the same person trying to smear Albion. The producers told me that Albion did provide a statement.
While at it, why not do another segment on how Albion is paying for a Gin's nice pad in La Jolla
http://www.lajollalight.com/sports/sd-cm-ljl-people-gins-20180423-story.html
http://www.lajollalight.com/sports/sd-cm-ljl-people-gins-20180423-story.html
Chalklines
GOLD
Albion Milk Man Scandal
How does that "inherit his account" thing work?
I’ll DM you.
The channel 8 story was weak. It did not offer any evidence of what the text said, only that it was about a medical procedure and did not say whether that info was hearsay.
People need to come forward to know the truth. It does not
look like anyone involved was willing to do that or they were not made aware of the police and news investigations.
Also if you look when Albion notified families it was on February 14 and only in response to this site. Obviously they would not have come forward unless they felt cornered.
But what amazes me is just how stupid Albion(Gins,McKaveney and Crowe’s PR wife) is and because I knowthat they monitor this site, I am requesting that theyimmediately remove the team roster of the player involved. The report has plenty of information to determine with avery high probability who the victim was and then in their statement to the police the idiots mention her age. Way to protect privacy .... wrong! I am sure they mentioned thatshe was 17 in an attempt to show that it was not that badsince she is almost an adult. Shows they only care aboutthemselves.
People need to come forward to know the truth. It does not
look like anyone involved was willing to do that or they were not made aware of the police and news investigations.
Also if you look when Albion notified families it was on February 14 and only in response to this site. Obviously they would not have come forward unless they felt cornered.
But what amazes me is just how stupid Albion(Gins,McKaveney and Crowe’s PR wife) is and because I knowthat they monitor this site, I am requesting that theyimmediately remove the team roster of the player involved. The report has plenty of information to determine with avery high probability who the victim was and then in their statement to the police the idiots mention her age. Way to protect privacy .... wrong! I am sure they mentioned thatshe was 17 in an attempt to show that it was not that badsince she is almost an adult. Shows they only care aboutthemselves.
Here is the report on channel 8. http://www.cbs8.com/story/38044216/soccer-coach-fired-for-alleged-texting-violation-involving-teen
I wonder if all those current Albion parents will continue to be on denial. I mean what else could go wrong???
Before I go on my “I told you so” rant, I’d just like to know what you think should happen to Albion, the club, as a result of this incident (i.e. if you had the power of a judge, what would be your sentence for Albion?).
Also I’d like to know exactly what you think Albion families should do with their kids (i.e. should they leave the club because of this incident?).
So tell me what you think Albion parents should do and what you allegedly would do if you were an Albion parent?
I would leave Albion in a heart beat, no questions asked. Unless I take my child to Surf or Carlsbad, I would see a significant savings and probably even better coaching.
There are many quality options available in San Diego County, just happens that people buy into the koolaid that NG sells. Lets see what options are available.
East County: SD United and Liverpool. (Both clubs have decent to good teams in the ulittles until parents leave to go to Albion.)
Coastal SD: Nomads, Surf, Sharks, La Jolla, Express, RSF, Carlsbad.
Inland SD: Poway, SDSC, Scripps, SDFA, Whatever the Ocampo bros club is called nowadays.
South SD: CVFC (Deserves full boys DA status) and Rebels (Deserves full GDA status and should apply for ECNL).
Plus all the smaller clubs that are within these areas and the AYSO Matrix that are within all those areas for the Albion Premier programs.
Before I go and tell you I told you so, this report is weak. There are no factual conclusions other than the police investigation by the Chula Vista Police department being closed. You do not know why it was closed, maybe they do not have jurisdiction or the victim would not cooperate. It does not say that that a crime was not commited.
Second, the report does not state that they looked at the text(s) or who told them the contents of the text(s). Sounds like their information only came from Albion. We don't even know if the victim(s) was aware of this report. The report makes no reference to the victim and it is very hard for me to believe that the family would go to the police if the text did not cross the line of appropriateness.
Third, how does anyone know that there are not multiple victims unless you have seen the text(s)? If the text to the one identified victim was about a "medical procedure" he was having, it sounds like grooming a victim to me. Albion should have reached out to their families in case others were also being groomed or were victims. They did nothing until February 14th and only in response to this site. They should have also reached out to families with girls that recently graduated to give them a warning.
The fact that Albion mentioned the girls age in their response to the news report is pathetic. They should know better if they truly care about protecting the identity of the victim.
Unless and until Albion can explain their lack of response to families and what exactly the text said (they can redact parts) I would not trust them. They have provided nice lip service and have shown an indifference to safety of their players.
sandshark
SILVER ELITE
This is crazy and wrong in a lot of ways, but it is the start to getting people to actually do what is right and maybe someone will come forward and expose Albion and the little perv for what they have allowed to happen to these children? And after the fact has anyone really stepped up and done what is right for the children? WTH are these adults thinking? Expose every single bit of this today!
As it stands now Albion and the parents involved feel that it is OK to just allow the public to think the very minimal, to actually down play what the subject matter was in the text to these young ladies. Obviously Albion is hiding behind the law along with down playing the severity of what he did because it was "technically" not illegal, and they are trying to navigate through this while trying to save their business. But we all have to wonder why the other people involved feel that the moral boundaries of what is ok with their children is so broad? My God people he was asking young ladies how to get sperm from himself! So what exactly is worthy of exposing him? It is scary to think that maybe (god forbid) he went further with some little kid in the past 20 years of strategically surrounding himself with young children.
I personally feel it is an absolute top priority for all parents to do what is best for their children and to also protect other families children AT ALL COST!
As it stands now Albion and the parents involved feel that it is OK to just allow the public to think the very minimal, to actually down play what the subject matter was in the text to these young ladies. Obviously Albion is hiding behind the law along with down playing the severity of what he did because it was "technically" not illegal, and they are trying to navigate through this while trying to save their business. But we all have to wonder why the other people involved feel that the moral boundaries of what is ok with their children is so broad? My God people he was asking young ladies how to get sperm from himself! So what exactly is worthy of exposing him? It is scary to think that maybe (god forbid) he went further with some little kid in the past 20 years of strategically surrounding himself with young children.
I personally feel it is an absolute top priority for all parents to do what is best for their children and to also protect other families children AT ALL COST!