Do you think if a club has an issue of a coach having inappropriate relations with a child it...

ecsoccermom said:
I am an Albion parent. I have asked and they have explained. A letter did go out to TS teams and the league, legal and law enforcement were contacted as soon as Abion was notified of the situation. I have been with the club for over seven years...boys side and over two years on the girls side and never felt that my kid’s best interest were not taken seriously.
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Classic Albion parents thinking!

Just like my friend told me, "You and whoever told you that story are hating on our club!"

They will continue to support Albion and whatever NG shenanigans comes up with.
 
You know, everybody is bashing on Albion, and by all accounts rightfully so, but to suggest that Albion parents should all leave the club because of this, is hypocritical BS.

My loyalty is and always has been to the team and coach. I rarely pay attention to other teams in the club or the club’s activities, especially now that my dd’s are leaving the youngers era (04’s).

If I was at Albion, I could give a rip what people say about Albion. I’m not going uproot my situation (coach, team, location, practice schedule, and other logistics), because of what other people think of my club.
 
Justafan said:
You know, everybody is bashing on Albion, and by all accounts rightfully so, but to suggest that Albion parents should all leave the club because of this, is hypocritical BS.

My loyalty is and always has been to the team and coach. I rarely pay attention to other teams in the club or the club’s activities, especially now that my dd’s are leaving the youngers era (04’s).

If I was at Albion, I could give a rip what people say about Albion. I’m not going uproot my situation (coach, team, location, practice schedule, and other logistics), because of what other people think of my club.
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I certainly respect your position. However, if you were at Albion would you at least be requesting a copy of the clubs hiring practices? Asking what background checks the club is doing, are they calling previous employers to check on the terms of them leaving the previous job.

For that matter have you asked your own club these things? Do you know "who" your daughter's coach is? I am not so sure that this is transparent at most clubs? In fact I think this forum points to at least two people that are/were at local clubs that were hired despite past allegations. If the club is hiring employees despite past allegations are you comfortable having your child at that club? I have Zero idea if any of the allegations are true, I am not involved, however it has made me re-think "who" I am trusting with my daughter and what the review process is at my club for the hiring of individuals.
 
Sons of Pitches said:
I certainly respect your position. However, if you were at Albion would you at least be requesting a copy of the clubs hiring practices? Asking what background checks the club is doing, are they calling previous employers to check on the terms of them leaving the previous job.

For that matter have you asked your own club these things? Do you know "who" your daughter's coach is? I am not so sure that this is transparent at most clubs? In fact I think this forum points to at least two people that are/were at local clubs that were hired despite past allegations. If the club is hiring employees despite past allegations are you comfortable having your child at that club? I have Zero idea if any of the allegations are true, I am not involved, however it has made me re-think "who" I am trusting with my daughter and what the review process is at my club for the hiring of individuals.
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It's very transparent at all clubs. All coaches have to pass the LiveScan in order to coach in CA. Whether a coach has been found guilty of misbehavior that would show on their record is another topic that's not so easy to address.
 
So a question to people who run their own business or to lawyers out there who might be reading this, what can Albion SC do legally when no charges have been filed? What can they say? Just curious. I know the 2 most recent cases I remember at SDSC (sexting charges) and Poway (sexual abuse) charges were filed and both clubs were very quick with their firing and public response to the situation. What can you do when there aren't any charges? I'm outraged if these accusations are true, and I find it disconcerting to think some folks think that because someone is 18+, that what was sent was legal and so they shouldn't file.

I just wonder if Albion isn't doing what they can in light of no charges being filed. That fact that they let him go (apparently without push back from TS) without charges says their might be fire around that smoke, but without charges they might have to hold what they can say or do for now. Just curious.
 
Sons of Pitches said:
I certainly respect your position. However, if you were at Albion would you at least be requesting a copy of the clubs hiring practices? Asking what background checks the club is doing, are they calling previous employers to check on the terms of them leaving the previous job.

For that matter have you asked your own club these things? Do you know "who" your daughter's coach is? I am not so sure that this is transparent at most clubs? In fact I think this forum points to at least two people that are/were at local clubs that were hired despite past allegations. If the club is hiring employees despite past allegations are you comfortable having your child at that club? I have Zero idea if any of the allegations are true, I am not involved, however it has made me re-think "who" I am trusting with my daughter and what the review process is at my club for the hiring of individuals.
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Fair questions, but I’ve never asked my own club and any background investigations would be almost meaningless to me. The background checks would not cause me to feel any more secure, nor would they make me any less vigilant regarding sexual abuse of minors. My guard is always high when it comes to this.

You can show me a piece of paper signed by the most respected members of the community attesting to your good moral character and that you do not sexually abuse kids. I’ll throw that in the trash and judge you with my own eyes and instincts.

I always chuckle at communities that come out and protest when a registered sex offender is living in their neighborhood or is about to move in. As if kicking that sex offender out now makes your community safe and immune. Yes you got rid of one, but you should be more concerned and vigilant with the ones you don’t know about.

I mean who the hell really knows what your neighbor does behind closed doors and behind that computer? Point being, when it comes to this kind of stuff, EVERYBODY should start off as a suspect.
 
Sunil Illuminati said:
It's very transparent at all clubs. All coaches have to pass the LiveScan in order to coach in CA. Whether a coach has been found guilty of misbehavior that would show on their record is another topic that's not so easy to address.
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http://www.ssci2000.com/california-parks-and-recreation-agencies-and-background-checks/

http://employmentbackgroundcheck.company/live-scan-surprising-facts/

Safe to say, that LiveScan is a nice CYA for the clubs, but not exactly re-assuring to a parent. as JustaFan points out, parental vigilance needs to be everyone's priority and if something seems off, it probably is.
 
Sons of Pitches said:
http://www.ssci2000.com/california-parks-and-recreation-agencies-and-background-checks/

http://employmentbackgroundcheck.company/live-scan-surprising-facts/

Safe to say, that LiveScan is a nice CYA for the clubs, but not exactly re-assuring to a parent. as JustaFan points out, parental vigilance needs to be everyone's priority and if something seems off, it probably is.
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Don't disagree but the response was based on the comment asking about club's having a background checking process. Whether you think it suffice is another question.
 
Justafan said:
You know, everybody is bashing on Albion, and by all accounts rightfully so, but to suggest that Albion parents should all leave the club because of this, is hypocritical BS.

My loyalty is and always has been to the team and coach. I rarely pay attention to other teams in the club or the club’s activities, especially now that my dd’s are leaving the youngers era (04’s).

If I was at Albion, I could give a rip what people say about Albion. I’m not going uproot my situation (coach, team, location, practice schedule, and other logistics), because of what other people think of my club.
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Funny thing is that you had been around long enough to witness various mass exodus from clubs for far less shit than this. The loyalty that NG has from the parents and gophers alike is unparalleled!
 
coachsamy said:
Funny thing is that you had been around long enough to witness various mass exodus from clubs for far less shit than this. The loyalty that NG has from the parents and gophers alike is unparalleled!
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More than any other club in San Diego, Albion sells the dream-if you stay here, do privates and give up your other sports you will play in college. Look at their listing of college scholarships which is bs. They include kids that received academic money solely for their acedemic abilities, without any connection to soccer. As an example look at the Board member's daughter that is listed as receiving money from Cal, never recruited for soccer.
 
Monkey said:
More than any other club in San Diego, Albion sells the dream-if you stay here, do privates and give up your other sports you will play in college. Look at their listing of college scholarships which is bs. They include kids that received academic money solely for their acedemic abilities, without any connection to soccer. As an example look at the Board member's daughter that is listed as receiving money from Cal, never recruited for soccer.
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They also will exaggerate the amount of scholarship. They will include not only the value of the scholarship, but include room and board, and then extrapolate it out to five years. That's how they get to their bogus __$M per year scholarship number.
 
Well I know from first hand info that TS was texting underaged current player or players and now a couple ex players have stepped forward about the way inappropriate sexual texting from TS.
Albion was given this information directly by the family of one of the underaged victims and yes Albion acted on the spot by contacting TS and demanding he fly home, Albion then fired TS upon his arrival back to SD.
So obviously they had a reason for real concern for the club and hopefully for the safety of the children TS was with in Texas. But somehow Albion has now decided after they covered thier own ass initially by firing TS and it’s time for a gag order?
Does anyone think TS actions were horrific enough for him to be fired but not horrible enough for Albion to reach out to all families and warn them of the ALBION monster coach that had free run around Albion for years!? At the very least don’t you believe that Albion should send out a warning to all families that have come in contact with Tony over his 6 years of employment by Albion?
And let’s not forget Albion knew Tony was accused of sexual misconduct in his past but chose to ignore that accusation, Albion even went so far as to allow Tony to take underaged girls on overnight van trips to do college tours!!! WTH where they thinking on that BS!?

This entire thing is absured and anyone taking Albion’s side in this should be investigated themselves for child endangerment! Albion has 100% screwed up. Albion knows there are more victims, we all know their are more victims as we saw from the brave father that came onto this forum and talked about his daughter coming forward about Tony texting her also.
I see people saying stuff about how they aren’t going to leave Albion because of this, well ok that’s fine, but now you can see how Albion will protect your child and if some kind of horrible event like this happens again we can all know what to expect from Albion!
 
sandshark said:
Well I know from first hand info that TS was texting underaged current player or players and now a couple ex players have stepped forward about the way inappropriate sexual texting from TS.
Albion was given this information directly by the family of one of the underaged victims and yes Albion acted on the spot by contacting TS and demanding he fly home, Albion then fired TS upon his arrival back to SD.
So obviously they had a reason for real concern for the club and hopefully for the safety of the children TS was with in Texas. But somehow Albion has now decided after they covered thier own ass initially by firing TS and it’s time for a gag order?
Does anyone think TS actions were horrific enough for him to be fired but not horrible enough for Albion to reach out to all families and warn them of the ALBION monster coach that had free run around Albion for years!? At the very least don’t you believe that Albion should send out a warning to all families that have come in contact with Tony over his 6 years of employment by Albion?
And let’s not forget Albion knew Tony was accused of sexual misconduct in his past but chose to ignore that accusation, Albion even went so far as to allow Tony to take underaged girls on overnight van trips to do college tours!!! WTH where they thinking on that BS!?

This entire thing is absured and anyone taking Albion’s side in this should be investigated themselves for child endangerment! Albion has 100% screwed up. Albion knows there are more victims, we all know their are more victims as we saw from the brave father that came onto this forum and talked about his daughter coming forward about Tony texting her also.
I see people saying stuff about how they aren’t going to leave Albion because of this, well ok that’s fine, but now you can see how Albion will protect your child and if some kind of horrible event like this happens again we can all know what to expect from Albion!
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Nasser and USA Gymnastics, Sandusky and Penn State, the Catholic Church and pedophile priests, Vince Thomas and Eagles, Tony Scheri and Albion... What do they all have in common? Organizations who turned a blind eye to and even facilitated abuse by adults sexually abusing children because that coach/doctor/ priest had value to the organization and to recognize their crimes meant bad PR for the organization. Enough is enough. It’s $ before kids. Time for it to stop.
 
smellycleats said:
Nasser and USA Gymnastics, Sandusky and Penn State, the Catholic Church and pedophile priests, Vince Thomas and Eagles, Tony Scheri and Albion... What do they all have in common? Organizations who turned a blind eye to and even facilitated abuse by adults sexually abusing children because that coach/doctor/ priest had value to the organization and to recognize their crimes meant bad PR for the organization. Enough is enough. It’s $ before kids. Time for it to stop.
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You are so clueless.
 
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