Dirty players

Surfref said:
Moved colleges, long story made short. The coach that recruited her moved on before DD reported her Freshman year and replacement coach was an a-hole. She was also going for Kinesiology which the college was going to start offering as an undergrad degree in 2017/2018 school year, but they pushed it back to 2019/2020 school year. DD thought the degree was more important than playing soccer.
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That's great to hear she's found a solid home. And also reaffirms my fears for my DD and all the early commitments that take place these days. When coaches leave, which seems fairly common, the incoming recruits can end up getting the sh(# end of the stick. Sigh. Most times it seems to work itself out, but what a pain in the butt.

Quick question, how is your daughter handling the lab work with her degree of choice and collegiate soccer? It's been something that we've been told to think about as my DD will have to take a lot of labs if she sticks with her preferred choice of programs.
 
baldref said:
you really need a hobby.
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Evidently he did not look at all the University of South Carolina campuses. I posted the exact name of the university on this forum a couple years ago. His "streaming" comment made absolutely no sense since I know JC's that stream their games. JaP is not here so he is just looking for someone to argue with. Not going down that road.
 
Surfref said:
Evidently he did not look at all the University of South Carolina campuses. I posted the exact name of the university on this forum a couple years ago. His "streaming" comment made absolutely no sense since I know JC's that stream their games. JaP is not here so he is just looking for someone to argue with. Not going down that road.
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Didn't you just say she moved colleges?

I don't have access to anything from the old forum, so I'm flying half blind.
 
Laced said:
I'm not sure you can call a 9 year old player "dirty." At that age, some kids don't have full control of their bodies. They by instinct put forth their arms more as way to protect themselves while hurting other kids unintentionally. I'd be much more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt than a 14 year old who does the same.
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What about the Hawaii team we played who every time the ref looked to the sidelines to accept the substitution the girls behind him started throwing elbows while the sub jogged on?
 
softwaretest said:
What about the Hawaii team we played who every time the ref looked to the sidelines to accept the substitution the girls behind him started throwing elbows while the sub jogged on?
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Every team from Hawaii I have ever seen plays a "physical" game of soccer.
 
I think the game is getting more physical than tactical. The past San Diego Surf Cup there were three girls with broken legs on that Saturday alone. Refs need to do a better job of controlling the game. Let them play is just an excuse for laziness on their part.
 
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I think the game is getting more physical than tactical. The past San Diego Surf Cup there were three girls with broken legs on that Saturday alone. Refs need to do a better job of controlling the game. Let them play is just an excuse for laziness on their part.
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This weekend and CRL is turning into a slug fest. Completely agree with this statement and the less we teach skill the more these desparate "physical" takedowns seem to be occurring.
I agree we had several different games this weekend. First ref didn't control anything until second half when he started handing out red cards. Last two the ref from the first two minutes made his feelings known about from behind tackles, etc.
 
Unknown said:
I think the game is getting more physical than tactical. The past San Diego Surf Cup there were three girls with broken legs on that Saturday alone. Refs need to do a better job of controlling the game. Let them play is just an excuse for laziness on their part.
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"Let them play" often turns into "let them play rugby".
 
Unknown said:
I think the game is getting more physical than tactical. The past San Diego Surf Cup there were three girls with broken legs on that Saturday alone. Refs need to do a better job of controlling the game. Let them play is just an excuse for laziness on their part.
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I do believe that some refs are just lazy and don't care if the game gets out of hand. My DD played a tournament this weekend against a team who was "ranked alot higher" than her team. So this team came on the field thinking her team would be an easy win but my DD's team dominated the game with more shots on goals and played a better passing game than the other team who then reverted to a kickball game because they couldn't keep up with my DD's team but unfortunately we lost due to a miscommunication on defense and the other team scored. But the desperation from the other team as they were being dominated by the "lower ranked" team, they were pulling our girls down and not using technique/skills and just getting real physical where one of the girls took a swing at our defender who was pushed to the ground trying to shield the ball. There was no call... I get soccer is physical and shoulder-to-shoulder hits or clean hits and being aggressive are all acceptable as long as you play the ball but come on, when does a literal swing at a player not called.
 
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Unknown said:
I think the game is getting more physical than tactical. The past San Diego Surf Cup there were three girls with broken legs on that Saturday alone. Refs need to do a better job of controlling the game. Let them play is just an excuse for laziness on their part.
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the lazy refs at surf cup broke three girls legs? that's just not right. they need to try harder. maybe they can break more girls legs if they weren't so lazy.

as always, the referee caused your team to lose, your players to get hurt, allowed the opposing team to play dirty, and caused a hole in the ozone.
the mindset of the typical ref hating, soccer parent is beyond me.....
there are referees who are doing centers above their heads. there are referees who are "not good". there are referees who make mistakes and don't see everything. but the percentage of these examples is very small. there are parents who don't have a clue what they are watching when they watch their kids play. the percentage of that is very high.
 
baldref said:
there are referees who make mistakes and don't see everything. but the percentage of these examples is very small. there are parents who don't have a clue what they are watching when they watch their kids play. the percentage of that is very high.
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I'm not a ref, nor do I particularly like many of the ones I see reffing my kids' games, but they're out there and I'm not. I know my limits, and that quote is spot on.
 
As I mentioned in my post, "some" refs, I didn't mention all. There are good center refs out there, no doubt. It's a hard job to catch everything that's going on on the field that's why there are AR's but no one is perfect. But also, it is the refs' responsibility to control the game so it doesn't get out of hand. Yes, there are dirty players and there are bad calls and teams lose, that's all part of the game. But after watching a game get out of control where players are breaking legs or swinging at other players, the refs needs to start controlling that by either giving yellow/red cards and throwing out the player for being out-of-contol, especially if it is the same player causing it. But I rarely see any cards being pulled. I've been watching youth soccer being played for over 13 years and have only seen maybe a handful of yellows being given out.

But it's all part of the game, just like football, baseball or basketball no one every agrees with the ref unless it is for your team. ;)
 
etc1217 said:
Yes, there are dirty players and there are bad calls and teams lose, that's all part of the game. But after watching a game get out of control where players are breaking legs or swinging at other players, (they are Donald Trump supporters).
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While the refs are voting for Hillary.
 
Blamming the Ref for Dirty play and injuries on the field is like blaming Prison Guards for Prison Violence. A great Ref is one you never know is there. A team that is coached well and has players that "PLAY" the game of soccer, need little to no interaction from the Ref. Parents on the sidelines that act accordingly also should never need to be engaged by the Refs. The players know who kicked the ball out, the players know when they are offsides, the players know when its a foul. Its the parents that seem to have the issues with the calls.....
 
baldref said:
there are referees who are doing centers above their heads. there are referees who are "not good". there are referees who make mistakes and don't see everything. but the percentage of these examples is very small. there are parents who don't have a clue what they are watching when they watch their kids play. the percentage of that is very high.
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I think the percentage is low on both sides. It's precisely the perception that the percentage is higher on the other side that creates animosity.
 
Laced - It's about embellishment. Girls are tougher than boys. They don't complain, cry, or fall around faking. Standard refs are looking to make an extra buck over the weekend, some have experience, some don't. They do their best. I am very appreciative of them in general. But really, girls aren't allowed to embellish, celebrate, etc. It's that double standard.

Girls are tough on the field. They don't go down. They don't complain. They don't talk back. They never (or rarely) question a call. Why? Ingrained. Because they are reprimanded. Because we have different expectations from our men and women behavior. How can we expect the refs to be different if we don't teach them a different protocol. I'm sure gender based situations never arise in their classes. Please tell me I'm wrong.
 
Laced said:
I think the percentage is low on both sides. It's precisely the perception that the percentage is higher on the other side that creates animosity.
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we definitely disagree on that. and being i've seen hundreds of more games than you, and ran up and down sidelines listening to ridiculous comments for many, many years, i believe i have a better insight on the reality than you.

and you would think that i'm speaking of lower level younger games. but, some of the most clueless and misinformed parents i have ever run across, were ecnl champions league games, surf cup olders games, etc.....
it boggles my mind that these parents have kids that play at the highest levels, and they really have no idea what it is they're watching.
 
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