Because several Board members at SD Surf have 03 and 04
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DA and ECNL
- Thread starter Desert Hound
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Is GPS playing Presidio under Surf’s name since they did not even try to get into Presidio? I can’t find anything on the number of teams they have.
Wrong you have it backwards. The reason they screw it up is because the “business people” are looking to make quick $. They don’t care about soccer other than for the sake of advancing their own kid (Surf) it it makes them money.
When I hear that Club "XX" is supposed to get ECNL or DA it's usually parent generated and doesn't happen. ECNL is pretty tight-lipped about who they are really considering before they announce who's in. Not much was said about FC Breakers before they were accepted and prior to GDA there were always rumors about Legends gaining acceptance. They probably should have been accepted but despite all the rumors it never happened.
Maybe you are right. It just seems that nobody is looking more than 1 foot in front of their face with any decision lately.
outside!
DA
So let's run some scenarios. If Surf gives up ECNL and SD Force and possibly SDSC
Wait. Do you mean that Surf BOD members would manipulate things to benefit their own children? Shocking!
No idea. I just threw them out because it seems as likely as Surf "giving" Force their ECNL.
So you don't have a clue and just made this up? Are you mental?
Yes, and no.
I don't believe anyone here who says Surf has already "lost" ECNL. I think it's made up.
Is it a given that DA is more valuable than ECNL in the long run? I'm not sure that's the case.
What value are you looking for?
for us, on any level it has not been demonstrated that DA is more valuable
After a decade or so, the boys side of the DA has failed in its stated objective of improving the production of world-class players. Is that the sort of thing you are looking for?
I was just asking for clarity on the claim that Surf BOD's were making moves to benefit their kids by steering Surf towards DA and leaving OC Surf/West Coast with "just" ECNL. If it's not clear that DA is "the" path going forward, I was just wondering why people would assume this is what's happening. BTW, I don't doubt that the BOD at Surf, and at every club, makes moves that try to benefit their kids.
Who is making the claim that Surf is steering West Coast with just ECNL? If you have not figured it out yest, West Coast only has DA this year and not ECNL.
Lambchop
GOLD
After 10 months on the girls side that is a pretty quick judgement.
futboldad1
PREMIER
It's quick but given that USSF cares immeasurably more about boys, that the boys DA has utterly failed at producing the "world class" talent they like to talk about, that the girls DA offers no surface benefits for college entry, and that the girls DA has had a rocky first year...it's likely he'll be proven more right than wrong but time will tell.
Desert Hound
DA
Bingo. That is 100% correct. While their website still has the girls ECNL logo on it, just go look at teams for next year. No ECNL. They specifically list certain teams as DPL. http://ocsurfsoccer.com/girls-2018-19/
I am still curious as to where the info is coming from that says SD Surf lost ECNL for this coming year. I have seen one person say it is so, and another saying it is confirmed, but that is it.
Desert Hound
DA
I think it is too early to say that boys DA has failed. It only started in 2007. So 11 yrs in at this point. Any boy that went through the full DA system is still rather young at this point. They start what at U12? So if someone went through from that starting age...11 yrs in they would be 22/23? So we are now at that point we we will start to see kids that have gone through the full system.
I would think that over the next 5-8 yrs is where you will have a chance to start fairly judging the results.