DA and ECNL
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Desert Hound
DA
DA can easily solve the problem of clubs dropping.
When you read why clubs drop it gets back to no HS soccer, then sub rules, then dual band.
For DA to stop the defections allow HS soccer at a min. That takes care of the majority of the problems clubs have. Put in ECNL style sub rules and that solves almost all the problems.
It seems to be an easy fix. They wanted to take the boys system and drop it on the girls. Seems like the girls want something a bit different.
Can they admit they they have an issue and make the necessary changes? Who knows. But they sure are doing a good job of making sure ECNL stays more than viable.
Why girls DA might want to do something different -- WNT has world-class success without any DA program; women's college programs have no problem finding good players, and good players have no problems finding college programs they like; the US women's pro circuits are not attractive to young college graduates.
What problem is DA trying to solve?
outside!
DA
Without the San Diego county Surf monopoly.
Desert Hound
DA
I know. Back to something that seemed to have been working rather well
It won't quite be the same though. The patch is different.
E, I just got a headache reading through your logic. Got any aspirin?
It would be a bit awkward if Surf went back to straight ECNL and had Sharks 5 miles away doing the same thing.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
I firmly believe the real issue driving a few clubs to leave DA and to focus full time on ECNL is money and that ECNL likely gives them a opportunity to make more money.
Captain Obvious strikes again. $ drives all decisions for DA and ECNL as well as almost all soccer clubs.
futboldad1
PREMIER
You "firmly believe"? Last time it was the "Eastern forums" you claimed were saying this. But you ignored the request to post a link. Wonder why.....
Yup, soccer clubs and and soccer organizations want to make money. But saying ECNL is more guilty of that than DA is something you need actual evidence for. You just promoting everything DA and tearing down everything else with make-believe just doesn't cut it.
Almost.....
He and Beach Parents, LAPFC Parents, Legends Parents, LA Galaxy SD Parents, Albion Parents not that their kids were not good enough, just drinking the drink.
Honesty ECNL should of been more stringent on performance, coaching licenses and kicked clubs out who were not performing.
I hope DA does this, why do clubs like PSV Nor Cal belong, look a their goal differential. Give them a 3 year period, if not better clubs got to go that are keeping up.
If your gonna call out Beach Parents you must know how long Beach tried getting into ECNL, but the collective group of ECNL teams in soCal held them and Legends out. Being one of these Beach parents (one who feels of ECNL provides more geographic representation GDA would most likely not exhist). It is irritating and somewhat offensive to be generalized and labeled as a “koolaide drinker”. Money and Politics are the main reason we are in this situation.
I want what is best for my DD’s and at this moment in time GDA is the sole vehicle available to us that provides the training, exposure and social environment that has helped my oldest thrive and given my youngest a renewed determination to improve and be a better player.
Why does this discussion have to be so polarizing?
Grammatical history -- "should have" -> "should've" -> "should of".
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
Actually we never tried out for ECNL. We stayed loyal to our home town club too long. And my post about ECNL was not a knock at it. They have a great model that I believe also works economically better for clubs. With less practice days and a shorter season my guess would be that they pay less in training fees to coaches. Without dual age brackets they also have more teams to collect fees from.
Beach and Legends are strong clubs that produced ECNL quality teams and D1 players long before GDA. I do agree that it seems like it would have been more difficult for US Soccer to organize GDA without these two clubs. The others listed probably don’t belong.
The reason for the polarized discussion is because of the narcissism of petty differences. There are no big differences between ECNL and GDA so everyone fights intensely over the little ones. As it currently stands, both leagues have some very good teams at the top of the table and some not so good teams at the bottom. Both leagues ask parents to pay way too much to play games outside of Southern California instead of playing local teams from the other league that are at the same level.
As a result, there are arguments about high school and practice time and substitution rules - each of these will be interpreted differently depending on each player’s circumstances. If a player’s high school program is a disaster, she may not miss it playing GDA. If her high school program is worthwhile, she will be glad she is in ECNL. And what high level player is really only practicing three nights a week?
For better or worse, most players need to play their soccer close to where they live. All one can hope is that the local program fits your player’s needs.
My guess is that players at Beach and Legends are no better now than they were before GDA - which means they are still great!
As always, for a Dummy you are pretty smart. To bad most parents don’t get this and bypass multiple worthy clubs in the hopes of getting a golden ticket.
Well, I found out Surf is not being forthright.
They will not have ECNL next year and are scrambling to broker a deal with SD Force that Force would be given the ECNL Franchise, but the teams would train at Polo and be Surf teams. I can’t make this stuff up.
Also hear SDSC may be given ECNL. But that is second hand.
Please define “next year.” Do you mean in a few months or a
year from now?
Why pick Force? The brothers did not leave Surf in a good way, I believe even leaving some of the Surf teams without a coach for a few months. Plus does Surf really want joysticking coaches? Does not help the brand image.