Coach Movement and 2018 Assignments

espola said:
That's an interesting fairy tale, but the reality of the last few decades is that Surf club management behavior and attitude have alienated most of the clubs and leagues in Southern California, and perceptive parents have realized they don't need to pay service to the Surf fables in order to succeed.
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No the fairy tale are parents who early specialize in soccer to the detriment of other sports or activities because they are being told Mayors or Governors Cup is "just like National Cup"
You can't have it both ways. Own it.
Call it what it is.
 
Striker17 said:
I am sure you are so familiar since your child stopped playing ten years ago as I recall?
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My children played on club teams (not Surf) until 2010. One son coached club teams (not Surf) until he moved out of town last year. I have been in regular contact with coaches, referees, players and club admins since early 90's right up until now. I have been enjoying watching my 2004 niece play on a Presidio team (obviously not Surf), including about a dozen games this past season and perhaps some of her team's State Cup games if they get any nearby games.
 
Striker17 said:
No the fairy tale are parents who early specialize in soccer to the detriment of other sports or activities because they are being told Mayors or Governors Cup is "just like National Cup"
You can't have it both ways. Own it.
Call it what it is.
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Who were those parents? I'm not aware of any of that personally.
 
Striker17 said:
There is a lot to unpack here. Let me start by saying my hypothesis is simply a hypothesis.

I will also start by saying I believe Presidio is basically AYSO and acts like it and looks like it. I think peopl would be better served staying with local rec leagues in neighborhoods for as long as they could, and picking identified talent for the next level. It's too diluted. Crazy wish huh? Yes I will prep for the onslaught.

I do not know if any Surf coaches for sure leaving except Gabe who already did. Rumors yes but not for sure. If the rumored coaches are in fact leaving is this happening in Jan?

Pathway paragraph- I agree with you. I am simply parroting the soccer websites. The end goal is MLS and US soccer in control. Here is my question to you though- what is wrong with concentrating the top identified talent at the DA or MLS level? What is wrong with ending the notion that little Ryan at Express who wants to play D1 is going to "make it".
Do you not think that once a special player was identified at Oranje or Express or Albion South that we should funnel them to people like Keith Miller or Benoit or Ryan Guy?

I believe strongly that on the girls side this is a major issue. We have a few that understand girls and know what it takes to coach them. Shannon is in fact one. I happen to believe that elite players should play with other ones and there should be a funnel to get them there.

Maybe it's not Surf- but they deserve better than what they are getting. If someone wants to improve that process and concentrate Ryan Marquez, Gabe, Shannon and people like this all in the same place then I applaud that. I can't comment on anything other than that because I don't know about PD.
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Haha. Onslaught
 
Fact said:
Guy Newman? That would be huge since he was the director. He is no longer listed on the Express website. Can anyone confirm where he went.
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GN was let go by the club a while ago. He didn’t leave.

Mas Yamasaki is at West Coast/ Surf now.
 
Striker17 said:
I also ask you a simple question Surfref who is he one selling the fantasy?
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Let me tell you a funny story. Yesterday while out I had the pleasure of over hearing two soccer moms in deep conversation. Their 12 year old girls were "soccer stars" and they were so good at soccer that they could not play other sports. They were so involved with soccer that they even had a hard time completing volunteer hours. So naturally I was at this point quite curious as to what high level team was being discussed .
It was PYSL Blast.

Who is selling a dream?
If you are a parent who doesn't know what Coast, DA, ECNL is who is the one selling the dream? It's not Surf or Blues!

I am not at all discouraging play or inclusion. What I am pointing out is that the big bad wolf isn't always the mega club with the good record. It's not Surf, or Gins, or Blues or Dugan. Open your mind up a little.
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A conversation between soccer moms, happy about their little girls success at whatever level they were. The horror. I am sure they both said their daughters were "soccer starts". (NOT.) Where is the selling? Where is any evidence that they were sold a "dream", what ever that is? Dod you also overhear them all saying that their girls would make the WNT? Nice try.
Striker17 said:
No the fairy tale are parents who early specialize in soccer to the detriment of other sports or activities because they are being told Mayors or Governors Cup is "just like National Cup"
You can't have it both ways. Own it.
Call it what it is.
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espola said:
Who were those parents? I'm not aware of any of that personally.
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Yep, more false premise.
 
Insert monotone voice

Oh
My
Gosh
What
A
Shock

All the older referees and Presidio homers and coaches for Presidio or Sdda have a problem with my hypothesis. I never ever saw that coming.

Read a book on innovation or successful business models~it's the New year after all.

As for the rest of the post I learned long ago with people like Jap and company there was no need to even engage.
 
Striker17 said:
Insert monotone voice

Oh
My
Gosh
What
A
Shock

All the older referees and Presidio homers and coaches for Presidio or Sdda have a problem with my hypothesis. I never ever saw that coming.

Read a book on innovation or successful business models~it's the New year after all.

As for the rest of the post I learned long ago with people like Jap and company there was no need to even engage.
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In all this excitement, I kind of lost track - could you kindly state your hypothesis again for the the record?
 
Striker17 said:
Insert monotone voice

Oh
My
Gosh
What
A
Shock

All the older referees and Presidio homers and coaches for Presidio or Sdda have a problem with my hypothesis. I never ever saw that coming.

Read a book on innovation or successful business models~it's the New year after all.

As for the rest of the post I learned long ago with people like Jap and company there was no need to even engage.
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Must be several antiquated, irrelevant Magoo posts in this thread.....
 
Club soccer has evolved greatly in the past 5-8 years. Evolved may be too weak a description. It has changed radically. This year, tryouts for u-littles occurred in December. For u-middles, tryouts are in the next week. Before Vegas Cup, before State Cup.

State Cup is becoming irrelevant for a few reasons, including DA, ECNL, and tryouts that occur two months before State Cup.

In the past, State Cup was an open tournament at the end of the season. Teams could grow stronger over the season, and peak for State Cup. With top level teams no longer playing State Cup, coupled with tryouts months in advance, State Cup has changed. Perhaps the clubs and gaming circuits need to revisit their respective definitions of a season. With tryouts in December and January, it is ridiculous to claim that State Cup represents the conclusion of the season. Unless and until clubs stop cutting players and accepting new players (and the concomitant fees) before State Cup, the end of the season is the day before team offers are made.
 
For u14 (2004) and younger, I don't see any reason why State Cup can't happen between Thanksgiving and early January.
Heck, start the season a week earlier or throw in a few games midweek if we need to get games done earlier to let State Cup take place.
Or move it to the Summer and make it a pre-season tournament.
 
Monkey said:
So by now most coaches know whether their contact is going to be renewed and clubs know which coaches plan to leave. I find it interesting this year that not a lot of clubs are listing coaching assignments for next season. Is this because they are anticipating a big shuffle still to come? Do DA coaches have a different length of contact since their season is only half way thru?

Looking at Albion, they have already had some tryouts but are not willing to confirm coaching assignments. When looking at DA standing and which coaches have been showing up to games, I noticed that Toumi's name is gone. He is still listed on the Albion website so is he going to be coaching other teams at Albion? If so which teams? Also Tony Scheri is no longer listed on their website.
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Toumi is now at Bayern GPS as Director of the central location.
 
TCD said:
Is there a SD North County GPS?
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No, not yet anyways. The central location that Toumi is apparently taking is from East Clairemont Mesa to TierraSanta based on their listed fields, so about 20 miles down the 15 or 163 from the 4S/RB areas.
 
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