Coach Movement and 2018 Assignments

I have been on record as more than supportive of GPS - you questioned their "pathway". Anything to improve or modify a blighted system I am all for.
He left Sharks before State Cup. You forgot that and no I do not believe the parents or anyone was ok with that move.
He also left Albion. I know you dislike Albion and that's ok but I don't think you are intimately familiar with all of the issues. If you are please share.
I don't doubt you may be correct but all of this cheerleading is odd to me.
 
We have potentially two DA director positions opened up. That's not a good look. OC doesn't have this issue.
I would say I hope US Soccer investigates that but who am I kidding?
Says a lot to me though.
 
Striker17 said:
We have potentially two DA director positions opened up. That's not a good look. OC doesn't have this issue.
I would say I hope US Soccer investigates that but who am I kidding?
Says a lot to me though.
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The girls DA and ECNL coverage in OC is not very good, it is stopping kids from competing at those levels.
 
Fact said:
FYI-Let's not exaggerate. Toumi's contract at Crusaders was not renewed after 20ish years due to CSC hurting financially because of Board mismanagement.
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Let's not exaggerate here. A group of disgruntled parents tried to sell this idea four years ago with a full on assault on CSC. It is just as false today as it was back then. As the ring leader ("San Diego Joe") insisted I do, I have been tracking the 990's of CSC ... and all the other local clubs to CSC, from 2011 through what is available thus far for 2016. CSC was at the time, and still are financially out performing all the comparable clubs in there area. The data is out there for you if you really want to check the "Fact"s.

Toumi ... under performed as ADOC at CSC, in my opinion and from my observations as a long time parent at the club back then. He was not renewed as ADOC. One might suggest that CSC was not getting the bang for the buck that they expected. No surprise that his coaching contract negotiation did not go well (from both sides) and his contract was not renewed.

Fact said:
And while Albion seemed like a good opportunity, he put his faith in an untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman.
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Four clubs in five years ... time to step back, look in the mirror, and do some soul searching. Admittedly, Toumi is a good trainer for youngers. But, at some point, you really have to stop blaming the clubs and the "untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman" and take some ownership. It may be a hard pill to swallow, but the record speaks for itself.

Fact said:
All of the coaching contracts that I am aware of end after League season(end of November). So any coach that does not plan to sign another contract for another year has no choice but to leave before State Cup.
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I would suspect that the DA coaches contracts go through the end of the DA season ... which is in the June time frame. So one might ask who is really the "untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman" ... in your words. Bailing on teams in the middle of the season.
 
Monkey said:
It is interesting that you said that the naming of these individuals was "good news"'on the Bayern GPS thread and above you ask who is coaching the

Everyone here knows that you are a 01 Albion homer who uses this forum to pump your own ego about your son making the varsity team in his freshman year. Yes I have seen you trying to
gloat.

** Reality check- Your son's high school is very small, plays in Division 4 and does not even have a JV team. No disrespect to your son but he is not even on the top team so you need to mellow out as I am positive you know little to nothing about these coaches. You and Defendthegoal are just being good little Albion homers. Move along unless you have something credible to add.
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Albion Homer LMAO.. You couldn't be further from the truth on that. I am a fan of Toumi but also disappointed that he left our team so abruptly. And has a track record as stated of doing it but He wasn't given any support and between DPL being a joke and having to coach 3teams on top of going to US training meetings etc.. he was burnt out and was too much.. do I think DA is a good thing yes.. I am beyond sad to see Toumi go and I think GPS is very lucky to have such a great coach.
 
Striker17 said:
I have been on record as more than supportive of GPS - you questioned their "pathway". Anything to improve or modify a blighted system I am all for.
He left Sharks before State Cup. You forgot that and no I do not believe the parents or anyone was ok with that move.
He also left Albion. I know you dislike Albion and that's ok but I don't think you are intimately familiar with all of the issues. If you are please share.
I don't doubt you may be correct but all of this cheerleading is odd to me.
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I questioned the use of the word pathway in general, not theirs specifically. Of course parents are not happy with a move when they like a coach and didn't a lot follow him?

As for Sharks I did not forget about that but with an opportunity to be the director of a new DA program, would you have passed that up?
 
Striker17 said:
We have potentially two DA director positions opened up. That's not a good look. OC doesn't have this issue.
I would say I hope US Soccer investigates that but who am I kidding?
Says a lot to me though.
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Exactly, Surf and Albion because management is not genuine with coaches and parents. You do not see these problems at Carlsbad and their DA teams are performing well with lots of local talent. I wonder why!
 
Carlsbad teams have always done well and their olders coach turnover is low. They seem to have truly harnessed a nice blend of physical, training, mental strength training. I am also impressed with their social media, celebration of their girls and professionalism.
They are doing this DA right from all accounts and reports I am hearing.
 
avh said:
Let's not exaggerate here. A group of disgruntled parents tried to sell this idea four years ago with a full on assault on CSC. It is just as false today as it was back then. As the ring leader ("San Diego Joe") insisted I do, I have been tracking the 990's of CSC ... and all the other local clubs to CSC, from 2011 through what is available thus far for 2016. CSC was at the time, and still are financially out performing all the comparable clubs in there area. The data is out there for you if you really want to check the "Fact"s.

Toumi ... under performed as ADOC at CSC, in my opinion and from my observations as a long time parent at the club back then. He was not renewed as ADOC. One might suggest that CSC was not getting the bang for the buck that they expected. No surprise that his coaching contract negotiation did not go well (from both sides) and his contract was not renewed.


Four clubs in five years ... time to step back, look in the mirror, and do some soul searching. Admittedly, Toumi is a good trainer for youngers. But, at some point, you really have to stop blaming the clubs and the "untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman" and take some ownership. It may be a hard pill to swallow, but the record speaks for itself.


I would suspect that the DA coaches contracts go through the end of the DA season ... which is in the June time frame. So one might ask who is really the "untrustworthy track suit wearing used car salesman" ... in your words. Bailing on teams in the middle of the season.
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How many DOCs did Crusades go thru back then? Was it 4 in 5 years? Even on the boys side they fired a DO at the end of his contract and left one of their highest performing teams without a coach and thus no National Cup.

Do you know when DA coaches come contacts are up? No and I can guarantee you that if he left Albion under contract they would have no problem slapping him with an injunction to prevent him from coaching. They often use this threat. So do use a favor and stick to the facts.
 
Striker17 said:
Carlsbad teams have always done well and their olders coach turnover is low. They seem to have truly harnessed a nice blend of physical, training, mental strength training. I am also impressed with their social media, celebration of their girls and professionalism.
They are doing this DA right from all accounts and reports I am hearing.
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Eventhough I think Carlsbad has way too many teams in each age group (probably supporting the DA program more so than at other clubs) I am thrived that they are another club that can help keep Surf in check to their customers.
 
That's why we all have choices. The more information shared the better. I know many people look at this forum and text back and forth. I hope that some clubs give information to us so that we can make informed decisions about placement. I am in awe that two open positions could be coming, and we are all supposed to act like it's all just fine. Nothing to see here!
 
Sorry for all the typos in my posts above. It is hard to be on a conference call and type. Back to my day job.
 
Fact said:
Do you know when DA coaches come contacts are up? No and I can guarantee you that if he left Albion under contract they would have no problem slapping him with an injunction to prevent him from coaching. They often use this threat. So do use a favor and stick to the facts.
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Are you really implying that DA coach contracts might end halfway through the season? C'mon man.

An injunction to keep a youth soccer coach from moving jobs? Has this ever happened?
 
JoeBieber said:
Are you really implying that DA coach contracts might end halfway through the season? C'mon man.

An injunction to keep a youth soccer coach from moving jobs? Has this ever happened?
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It happens quite a bit. And clubs hold back wages owed. Coaches sue clubs. And clubs sue coaches.
 
Striker17 said:
Why in the world would anyone who is an ALBION parent support a coach who has moved clubs repeatedly leaving teams before the end of the season?
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Having previously lived in SD for 15 years with two soccer playing daughters I tend to agree with this. Sure, I was a "Surf-guy" but, without wanting to be at all rude, I don't see why anyone would put him on a pedestal.
 
Fact said:
How many DOCs did Crusades go thru back then? Was it 4 in 5 years? Even on the boys side they fired a DO at the end of his contract and left one of their highest performing teams without a coach and thus no National Cup.
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Well, by my recollection, Rene has been DOC at CSC since 2010 or 2011. But I'll check that for you when I get home. I want to make sure I get the facts right for you. If you want to give me names and dates of all these others you are implying from back 4 or 5 years ago, I'll try to go check those facts for you also.

Fact said:
Do you know when DA coaches come contacts are up? No and I can guarantee you that if he left Albion under contract they would have no problem slapping him with an injunction to prevent him from coaching. They often use this threat. So do use a favor and stick to the facts.
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Okay, I'll stick with the facts.

Fact: Toumi bailed on his two DA teams in the middle of the season.

Question: Do you know when DA coaches contracts are up? If not, do us a favor and stick to the facts.
 
Striker17 said:
Seems to me parents/forum people are more riled up about this than both Albion or Toumi who have moved on
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I'm sure all of the grown men involved put the needs and well being of 13 and 14 year old girls ahead of their egos and own needs.

You know, it's for the kids.
 
Totally! Everything they do is for the girls. I can rest easy knowing they truly care about my soccer player and work tirelessly on ways to get her exposure for college while challenging her on and off the field. We care as much about character and grades as we do....

Oh wait I got carried away with their various websites
 
Striker17 said:
Carlsbad teams have always done well and their olders coach turnover is low. They seem to have truly harnessed a nice blend of physical, training, mental strength training. I am also impressed with their social media, celebration of their girls and professionalism.
They are doing this DA right from all accounts and reports I am hearing.
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I have watched the '01 team and they play some nice soccer. Drummond and Higham are good coaches and are doing well with their teams. I have no experience with Duggan other than talking over a beer and have not watched his team, so no I cannot offer an informed opinion.
 
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