Climate and Weather

[Ricky Fandango]

You made erroneous statements similar to those you have made before when you were preparing to abandon the discussion.

What was erroneous about them?

 

[Ricky Fandango]

Percentage is not the best word to use there.

Give me a better word for percentage.

 

[Sheriff Joe]

What percentage of warming is natural and what percentage is man made?
What would earth temps be today without human influence?

Those questions seem impossible to answer, therefore.....

 

[Ricky Fandango]

There is no scientific conclusion on the effects of human based co2 on climate.
There is no way to quantify what most believe is anthropogenic against what natural warming is occurring.

You answered, "Fail", and "Fail".
How is that a discussion, e-fessor?

 

[Ricky Fandango]

Those questions seem impossible to answer, therefore.....

E-fessor just says fail.
Thats good enough for hizz'n.

 

[espola]

What was erroneous about them?

All of them.

 

[espola]

You answered, "Fail", and "Fail".
How is that a discussion, e-fessor?

Twice-chewed cabbage.

 

[espola]

Give me a better word for percentage.

Proportions, but even that is too rigid.

 

[xav10]

97%, we know.
How many people fell for the old hockey stick?

I think it's quite a bit more than that.

 

[espola]

97%, we know.
How many people fell for the old hockey stick?

You appear to be saying the hockey stick was false.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

I dont know.
I have had thousands of clients over the years.
There are alot of lawyers.
I love them.

Many are more billing experts than experts in anything else.
Im glad Ive never had to pay one.

But they are better salesman then they are billing experts.

 

[Wez]

You appear to be saying the hockey stick was false.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astr...ick_and_the_climate_wars_by_michael_mann.html

"In the book, Mann goes over the science of global warming, written for the intelligent layman, showing the multiple lines of evidence indicating our planet is in trouble. As a scientist myself I found that fascinating, but it was the description of the attacks on both Mann’s science and his character I found, paradoxically, both appalling and enthralling. In the end, Mann’s work has withstood the test of fire, having been exonerated and supported by his fellow scientists (who have independently confirmed the hockey stick results) as well as by multiple inquiries into the attacks against it. He also talks about the ridiculous “Climategate” manufactroversy, and his role in it."

 

[Ricky Fandango]

But they are better salesman then they are billing experts.

Im not sold.

 

[xav10]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astr...ick_and_the_climate_wars_by_michael_mann.html

"In the book, Mann goes over the science of global warming, written for the intelligent layman, showing the multiple lines of evidence indicating our planet is in trouble. As a scientist myself I found that fascinating, but it was the description of the attacks on both Mann’s science and his character I found, paradoxically, both appalling and enthralling. In the end, Mann’s work has withstood the test of fire, having been exonerated and supported by his fellow scientists (who have independently confirmed the hockey stick results) as well as by multiple inquiries into the attacks against it. He also talks about the ridiculous “Climategate” manufactroversy, and his role in it."

It's just not a scientific debate. The energy industry and its allies have done an amazing job convincing laypeople that it is, but it isn't a scientific debate at all. The science is settled. But, e.g., despite any new evidence, many more republicans now deny since the advent of the Trump administration.

 

[Ricky Fandango]

It's just not a scientific debate. The energy industry and its allies have done an amazing job convincing laypeople that it is, but it isn't a scientific debate at all. The science is settled. But, e.g., despite any new evidence, many more republicans now deny since the advent of the Trump administration.

How much of our current warming is natural and how much is due to anthropogenic co2, and how much is due to data manipulation?

 

[Bruddah IZ]

It's just not a scientific debate. The energy industry and its allies have done an amazing job convincing laypeople that it is, but it isn't a scientific debate at all. The science is settled. But, e.g., despite any new evidence, many more republicans now deny since the advent of the Trump administration.

The strength is in the tail.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

It's just not a scientific debate. The energy industry and its allies have done an amazing job convincing laypeople that it is, but it isn't a scientific debate at all. The science is settled. But, e.g., despite any new evidence, many more republicans now deny since the advent of the Trump administration.

 

[Ricky Fandango]

97%, we know.
How many people fell for the old hockey stick?

How many still falling for it?

 

[espola]

How many still falling for it?

More than are falling for this (from one of your sources) --

...there is overwhelming and undeniable evidence that climate change:
<...>
as studied by our scienticians is more about prestige and money than truth/science.​

http://www.asinglevoice.us/Environment/GlobalWarming/GlobalWarming.html

 

[Bruddah IZ]