Climate and Weather

[Ricky Fandango]

What does it matter? we know the current change in our climate is having some pretty harsh effects on our society worldwide and we should hope for the best but plan for the worst.

Settled science?

 

[Wez]

Settled science?

Science is rarely settled. We tend to act on consensus that have been brought about through the scientific method though.

 

[Ricky Fandango]

If it's possible agw is real then we should plan for how to mitigate it.

Arguing that it's not a possibility and we should do nothing out of the ordinary is foolish.

How settled is the science?

 

[Ricky Fandango]

Science is rarely settled

Then why are you so enamored by those who claim it is?

 

[Wez]

Then why are you so enamored by those who claim it is?

See my edit

 

[Wez]

Then why are you so enamored by those who claim it is?

I'm enamored with scientist who gives opinions based upon the scientific method

 

[Ricky Fandango]

See my edit

We tend to act on political consensus, agreed.

 

[Ricky Fandango]

I'm enamored with scientist who gives opinions based upon the scientific method

Which ones?

 

[Wez]

We tend to act on political consensus, agreed.

Ideally political consensus is brought about through informed advisory.

 

[Ricky Fandango]

Ideally political consensus is brought about through informed advisory.

Ideally the science would be settled as well.
Unfortunately both ideals fall short.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Of course you do. That was my point - you believe wingnut sources and reject the facts.

Got that ratio yet?

 

[Wez]

Ideally the science would be settled as well.
Unfortunately both ideals fall short.

It depends on what your definition of settled is. an overwhelming agreement across the entire world wide scientific community tends to be the type of settled that people act on.

 

[Bruddah IZ]

Ideally political consensus is brought about through informed advisory.

How about some diced ratio to go with your word salad.

 

[Ricky Fandango]

It depends on what your definition of settled is. an overwhelming agreement across the entire world wide scientific community tends to be the type of settled that people act on.

Thats what they say.
You seem convinced.
Espola and xazi are settled 99%.

 

[Wez]

Thats what they say.
You seem convinced.
Espola and xazi are settled 99%.

Mankind doesn't act on complete knowledge. the scientific method is designed to give us the highest degree of confidence to move forward in an uncertain world.

 

[espola]

The erasure of the medieval warming period, and the patchwork tree ring data for starters.

Who told you that?

 

[Ricky Fandango]

Mankind doesn't act on complete knowledge. the scientific method is designed to give us the highest degree of confidence to move forward in an uncertain world.

The scientific method is designed to disprove scientific theory.
Political theory is designed to move forward in an uncertain world.

 

[espola]

The scientific method is designed to disprove scientific theory.
Political theory is designed to move forward in an uncertain world.

Interesting, but nonsense.

 

[Wez]

The scientific method is designed to disprove scientific theory.
Political theory is designed to move forward in an uncertain world.

Please clarify?

Are you sure you're using the term scientific theory correctly?

 

[Hüsker Dü]

To the rest of the civilized world man-influenced climate change is simply an accepted fact, the degree to which is the debate . . . but of course no one said that Trump followers were civilized.

 

[espola]

Please clarify?

Are you sure you're using the term scientific theory correctly?

I think he stumbled over the meaning of the philosophical concept of falsifiability.