Bruddah IZ
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And the professional denialist theirs.
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Bruddah IZ
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Have the Obama’s invited you to their new home?
No, I don’t know them.
Is there a reason you put an apostrophe in the word “Obamas?”
Bruddah IZ
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Ahhhh the self proclamation.
Bruddah IZ
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Yes.
Didn't need to.
Although the article says "R2 regression", it is usually written as "R-squared regression" in places where the writing of superscripts is not supported. I can type it properly in google documents (for superscript, select the character, then press and hold Ctrl key and press the period key), but when I copy and paste it here it comes out as plain old "R2".
Sheriff Joe
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If true why did Obama buy beachfront?
Don’t answer that.
1. It’s all a lie.
2. Obama is an idiot.
3. Both.
Bruddah IZ
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That’s a “No”
I understand Penn State is underwriting the legal costs. They are sensitive to accusations of that type after their football scandal.
It may be beachfront, but it's not exactly at sea level --
And if we continue to do as little about climate change as we are doing now, sea levels are projected to rise about 1 to 2 feet by 2050. Do you think the Obamas will be living there for another 30 years?
You people crack me up.It may be beachfront, but it's not exactly at sea level --
And if we continue to do as little about climate change as we are doing now, sea levels are projected to rise about 1 to 2 feet by 2050. Do you think the Obamas will be living there for another 30 years?
I could literally not make this shit up.
What part do you think is made up?
None of it.
That's the point, sherlock.
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You have a point there. I never would have predicted that you would get Dr. Balls mixed up. Hilarious.
Actually, I misinterpreted the article. There were two other statisticians sited, and i conflated their assertions with Ball's.
I'm glad it made you laugh.
From the article I posted,.
Some years after the stick was constructed, Canadian statisticians Stephen McIntyre and Ross McKitrick challenged Mann’s work. They argued the “recent paleoclimate reconstruction by Mann et al. does not provide reliable evidence about climate change over the past millennium, because their data are inconsistent and their confidence intervals are wrong.”
Climate researcher Tim Ball even went so deep as to say that Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn State,” where Mann conducts research. Ball found out that was the wrong thing to say. Mann sued him in Canada.
What happened was that Dr. Ball asserted a truth defense. He argued that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud, something that could be proved if one had access to the data and calculations, in particular the R2 regression analysis, underlying it,” Hinderaker wrote. “Mann refused to produce these documents. He was ordered to produce them by the court and given a deadline. He still refused to produce them, so the court dismissed his case.”
Mann had eight years to produce his data.
He failed to do so, and now he gets to pay the court costs of Dr. Ball.
Sound like something a guy with the facts on his side would do?
Mann had eight years to produce his data.
He failed to do so, and now he gets to pay the court costs of Dr. Ball.
Sound like something a guy with the facts on his side would do?
"Mann says that his lawyers are considering an appeal. He can appeal to his heart’s content, but there is not a court in North America that will allow a libel case to proceed where the plaintiff refuses to produce the documents that may show whether the statements made about him were true or false."
Bruddah IZ
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In other words, the R isn’t squared.
McIntyre is a retired businessman whose career was spent in mineral and energy exploration. In his retirement, he founded the climate-denial website Climate Audit. CA for years hid its funding sources until it was disclosed that McIntyre was receiving regular payments from a Canadian energy development corporation. His role in this issue was providing funding for Dr. McKitrick who eventually came up with some alternative results from those of Dr. Mann based on similar data sources, published not in a scientific journal but by the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
McI and McK questioned Mann's results, but never his character. Ball lied about Mann and by inference Penn State, and thus the lawsuit.
I get it.
You're all in on the hockey stick.
Too bad Mann isn't, or else he would have shown his work.
Embarrassing for you and him.
Entertaining though it is to watch your tenacious defense of your climate god.
Embarrassing for Penn State too.
Are they on the hook to pay the legal expenses of Dr. Ball?