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Who said the judge was an idiot? Wasn't me.
You dont have the balls to come right out and say it, but it doesn't take a genius to figure it out.
You basically called me an idiot for agreeing with him.
Its ok.
I understand how bad it must hurt.
The judge made no statement one way or the other on the validity of Dr. Mann's "hockey-stick" paper. He threw out a libel/slander case because for lawyerly reasons, not scientific.
He allowed 8 years for Dr Mann to provide his work.
8 years.
8 YEARS
Why hide it and lose the case?
The original paper by Mann et al. was published in 1998.
21 years ago, and no serious flaws have been found in the data or the analysis.
21 YEARS
It should have been easy then.
Why not hand it over?
I dont enjoy this, btw.
Its a public service i force myself to provide.
It was "handed over" to the editors of the Journal in which the original article was published, and to their anonymous panel of reviewers. Other scientists who have approached the analysis on their own using Mann's data sources have said that they would handle the data differently, or have used different temperature-proxy methods, but their results are essentially the same - hundreds of years of gradually decreasing temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere, followed by an unprecedented temperature rise onto the present time.
Nope.
Judge wants to see for himself.
...gave him 8 years to pony up.
Do you think the judge is going to read the r-squared regression data? For what purpose?
Some years after the stick was constructed, Canadian statisticians Stephen McIntyre and Ross McKitrick challenged Mann’s work. They argued the “recent paleoclimate reconstruction by Mann et al. does not provide reliable evidence about climate change over the past millennium, because their data are inconsistent and their confidence intervals are wrong.”
Climate researcher Tim Ball even went so deep as to say that Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn State,” where Mann conducts research. Ball found out that was the wrong thing to say. Mann sued him in Canada.
Ball, however, beat Mann in court. The case was dismissed Friday. Almost immediately, Ball wrote to Anthony Watts of the wattsupwiththat website, telling him “Mann’s case against me was dismissed this morning by the (British Columbia) Supreme Court and they awarded me (court) costs.” According to John Hinderaker, an attorney and PowerLine blog contributor, the case was thrown out “with prejudice.”
“What happened was that Dr. Ball asserted a truth defense. He argued that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud, something that could be proved if one had access to the data and calculations, in particular the R2 regression analysis, underlying it,” Hinderaker wrote. “Mann refused to produce these documents. He was ordered to produce them by the court and given a deadline. He still refused to produce them, so the court dismissed his case.”
John O’Sullivan at Principia Scientific International believes the “extraordinary outcome will likely trigger severe legal repercussions for Dr. Mann in the U.S. and may prove fatal to alarmist climate science claims that modern temperatures are ‘unprecedented.'”
You're just repeating yesterday's content.
What did McI and McK find wrong with Mann's work?
Why couldn't they get their findings published in a reputable journal?
I answered your question by simply re-posting some of the original article.
Now, instead of thanking me, you try to obfuscate by coming up with questions about something else,.,,
Its not a good look.
You left off implying that the judge was going to read the data. You ran away from that.
“What happened was that Dr. Ball asserted a truth defense. He argued that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud, something that could be proved if one had access to the data and calculations, in particular the R2 regression analysis, underlying it,” Hinderaker wrote. “Mann refused to produce these documents. He was ordered to produce them by the court and given a deadline. He still refused to produce them, so the court dismissed his case.”
"Judge wants to see for himself."
You're trying to reason with Magoo.
He's right, fuck the truth, facts and logic matter not.
You can repost the facts and the logic of the matter as many times as you want.
Magoo doesn't care, his mind is made up.
Nice try though...you are a giver.
So what is the truth here?