I'm smart enough to see that Ron D. is trying really hard to fill t's shoes. Are you?
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I'm smart enough to see that Ron D. is trying really hard to fill t's shoes. Are you?
You weren’t smart enough to see it’s a positive for the country if the rs have as a nominee someone who is more stable than the former president. But that’s your marching orders from the dnc right…see you got the “DeSantis is worse than trump” script that’s been making the rounds.
DeSantis is not worse than t by a long shot. That, however, is a long way from "positive for the country".
I hadn't heard that about him - perhaps because I am not a Democrat.
I do, however, get several emails every day that sound by their tone that the sender thinks I am a t supporter. Go figure.
That’s ok. Somehow I wound up on the Elizabeth Warren email list even though I would consider meet Kevin a positive over newsom.
Who or what is meet Kevin?
At least according to some polls, the front runner to replace newsom in the California recall.
I had to look him up.
It's too soon for serious study of the candidates, but I voted for Faulconer for Mayor of SD in that brief period when I was a resident of SD. Then he became a t supporter, however.
Poor baby…having to go look up the candidates. Treat yourself to an ice cream to make up for the hard work.
SF?
SF is an example of what happens when people meet outside, mask up, and get their shots.
SF has a mask mandate, 70% vax rate, and vaccine passports. SF also has cases lower than 2 weeks ago, plenty of staffed beds in the hospitals, and zero deaths per day. It works.
The problem is actually solvable, if you don’t insist on being an idiot about it.
Finding someone to pick on part 2 is kind of difficult. I’d consider a Democrat or a never-trump Republican, but there aren’t many of either on the ballot.
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As a known liar and cheat, not sure I'm anybody you should trust. Nonetheless, since directed to me, the official ingredient list for the approved CoV-2 vaccines can be found in appendix C of this big CDC link. Depending on how it loads in your browser you may need to scroll down to find Appendix C. Or it might just open up to it.
Interim Clinical Considerations for Use of COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC
Find interim clinical considerations for the use of COVID-19 vaccines for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the United States.
www.cdc.gov
If the parts list sounds like chemical gobbledygook, on the link below what are listed as the inactive ingredients of the vaccines essentially form a spherical membrane or shell that can fuse with your cells once the vaccine particles are injected. The fusion delivers the active ingredient, which is what is shown in the middle. That's the genetic instructions (either RNA or DNA depending on which vaccine) for making the CoV-2 spike protein. Your cells express the protein and antibodies get made to it.
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The history has a long and short part. The short part has to do with the ability of this particular Cvirus, with its once and future variants, to escape immune detection (natural or vaccine induced), versus the ability of the virus to initially outpace immune clearance due to increased replicative potential. The data right now seems to be pointing at the latter. Cviruses have big genomes and can encode lots of tricks. But they are also under constraints and the molecular surfaces antibodies recognize can only change so much. There is an interesting natural experiment that supports the idea that CoV-2 may not be able to change extensively enough to truly escape a previous immune response. People who were infected during the 2003 SARS outbreak (CoV-1, which also recognizes Ace2 as the receptor) can be demonstrated to have antibodies that strongly recognize CoV-2.
The long part of the history is where the true escape from immune detection comes in. This is where different Cviruses infect the same cell, recombine, and produce a brand new Cvirus with new molecular surfaces that humans haven't really been exposed to before. You might think, SARS, MERS, COVID, seems like this sort of thing is happening fairly regularly actually. And the virologists who study human/viral environmental interactions jump up and down and say we've been screaming at everybody to pay attention.
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Combat?
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You sound hurt.....for a smart guy that is.
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It's here and it's Blue!!!
The Lambda COVID variant is in California: It has Blue colors instead of red
-The emerging lambda variant has been popping up in the news lately ((ya, I heard))
-Experts say lambda could be more infectious and resistant to vaccines ((oh oh, does that mean more boosters are needed))
So do Californians need to worry about this new variant? Not just yet. ((oh joy))
What is the lambda variant? ((Ya, I want to know too))
The lambda variant — also known as “C.37.” Lambda may be more infectious than the original “wild type” coronavirus and may be potentially resistant to current vaccines, although more studies are needed. The WHO thinks it's way worse. ((Of course they do))
Why am I hearing about lambda now? ((To scare the shit out of you some more))
More recently, two highly publicized laboratory studies from Japan and Chile – both in preprint and not yet peer-reviewed – have suggested that lambda may be more infectious and less susceptible to current vaccines. ((Oh bummer))
Is lambda here in California? What about other states? ((The headline said it was here))
Yes and yes.
Commercial and government laboratories test for variants by sequencing the genome of the coronavirus that caused a particular COVID-19 case and looking for mutations and changes in the virus’ characteristic spike protein. ((I wonder what the Scientists have up their sleeves with this batch?))
How does the lambda variant compare to other known variants? ((Alpha and Delta))
The Scientists don’t yet know how lambda’s different genetic profile will affect community transmission, severity of symptoms or vaccine resistance around the world. Some early clues are emerging. ((Yes, the clues are out in the freaking open. Basically, the clue is the vaccines will not work on Lambda and you and your family will need to get more jabs to continue having a job and enjoying the finer things in life, like bars, cruises, flying, eating out, buying & selling stuff and all the other beautiful things life brings for those WHO are jabbed. The anti-jabbers are already kicked out of all the fun)).
The Chilean researchers tested lambda against antibodies from health care workers who received the Chinese-made Sinovac vaccine, finding that the vaccine failed to work as well as it did with the original virus.
New York University researchers tested lambda against the vaccines authorized in the United States and found that the Johnson and Johnson one-dose vaccine was less effective against it and the delta variant compared to the Pfizer and Moderna two-dose vaccines.
Just because vaccines appear less effective when pitted against lambda in a test tube ((nothing to worry about a jab can;t fix)) doesn’t mean they won’t protect against severe illness, said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, a University of California, San Francisco infectious disease specialist. Nearly all hospitalizations and deaths in California and nationwide have occurred in unvaccinated people. ((oh really? "Nearly" is an interesting choice of words Dr. Chin-Hong))
Do I need to worry?
Not for now, Chin-Hong said. ((Oh great, that sounds up lifting and promising)) “Delta’s aggressive all over the world and lambda hasn’t really taken off,” Chin-Hong said. “At the end of the day, it’s survival of the fittest
The Lambda COVID variant is in California: It has Blue colors instead of red
-The emerging lambda variant has been popping up in the news lately ((ya, I heard))
-Experts say lambda could be more infectious and resistant to vaccines ((oh oh, does that mean more boosters are needed))
So do Californians need to worry about this new variant? Not just yet. ((oh joy))
What is the lambda variant? ((Ya, I want to know too))
The lambda variant — also known as “C.37.” Lambda may be more infectious than the original “wild type” coronavirus and may be potentially resistant to current vaccines, although more studies are needed. The WHO thinks it's way worse. ((Of course they do))
Why am I hearing about lambda now? ((To scare the shit out of you some more))
More recently, two highly publicized laboratory studies from Japan and Chile – both in preprint and not yet peer-reviewed – have suggested that lambda may be more infectious and less susceptible to current vaccines. ((Oh bummer))
Is lambda here in California? What about other states? ((The headline said it was here))
Yes and yes.
Commercial and government laboratories test for variants by sequencing the genome of the coronavirus that caused a particular COVID-19 case and looking for mutations and changes in the virus’ characteristic spike protein. ((I wonder what the Scientists have up their sleeves with this batch?))
How does the lambda variant compare to other known variants? ((Alpha and Delta))
The Scientists don’t yet know how lambda’s different genetic profile will affect community transmission, severity of symptoms or vaccine resistance around the world. Some early clues are emerging. ((Yes, the clues are out in the freaking open. Basically, the clue is the vaccines will not work on Lambda and you and your family will need to get more jabs to continue having a job and enjoying the finer things in life, like bars, cruises, flying, eating out, buying & selling stuff and all the other beautiful things life brings for those WHO are jabbed. The anti-jabbers are already kicked out of all the fun)).
The Chilean researchers tested lambda against antibodies from health care workers who received the Chinese-made Sinovac vaccine, finding that the vaccine failed to work as well as it did with the original virus.
New York University researchers tested lambda against the vaccines authorized in the United States and found that the Johnson and Johnson one-dose vaccine was less effective against it and the delta variant compared to the Pfizer and Moderna two-dose vaccines.
Just because vaccines appear less effective when pitted against lambda in a test tube ((nothing to worry about a jab can;t fix)) doesn’t mean they won’t protect against severe illness, said Dr. Peter Chin-Hong, a University of California, San Francisco infectious disease specialist. Nearly all hospitalizations and deaths in California and nationwide have occurred in unvaccinated people. ((oh really? "Nearly" is an interesting choice of words Dr. Chin-Hong))
Do I need to worry?
Not for now, Chin-Hong said. ((Oh great, that sounds up lifting and promising)) “Delta’s aggressive all over the world and lambda hasn’t really taken off,” Chin-Hong said. “At the end of the day, it’s survival of the fittest
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You are a sick bastard!!! So many people hurting right about now Espola and this is your satire? Get a life and buy a clue. No kids playing soccer yet is on here 24/7.
you should consider meet Kevin. You might like he’s a big idea, details and procedures be damned, visionary type. He’s also not very anti npi though he agrees newsom
Has handled everything unscientifically and with poor optics. He’s big on executive orders and has some looney ideas like building a freeway under the 405 freeway.
It’s also a stupid piece of propaganda. Like a stupid rewashed cloth mask is supposed to protect you. Even Obama didn’t buy that with his party. A better piece would be: you think a sore arm and some side effects are bad, look at x.
Dude has lost it Grace. Caught red handed too. It's like a bank robber with red ink all over his face and he still in denial of what he and his friends did all because they hate one man ((and his followers)). This is cultish behavior 101. Poorespola is in a cult. I can relate and I'm here to offer any help he might need later.
