Bad News Thread

So this goes into the bad section.

This is increasingly how our gov works. And it shouldn't be like this.

The congress did not pass the extension.

So what happens? A gov agency just did.

That shouldn't happen.

 
Obviously you are afraid of what the past administration has wrought and want to ignore it. There are multiple reasons why the poor, people of color and the younger generations aren’t vaccinated or are hesitant. Then there is a huge swath of people who admittedly don’t want it due to their political beliefs and those are the people that freak out when any vaccine outreach is suggested. The circular nature of t-party complaints (in this and other matters) stems from little exposure to anything but “alternative facts”. There is a long list of fictional theories that t-party types proclaim as their reason to not vaccinate nor exercise common sense precautions, access not being one of them.
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Obviously you are afraid of what the past administration has wrought and want to ignore it. There are multiple reasons why the poor, people of color and the younger generations aren’t vaccinated or are hesitant. Then there is a huge swath of people who admittedly don’t want it due to their political beliefs and those are the people that freak out when any vaccine outreach is suggested. The circular nature of t-party complaints (in this and other matters) stems from little exposure to anything but “alternative facts”. There is a long list of fictional theories that t-party types proclaim as their reason to not vaccinate nor exercise common sense precautions, access not being one of them.

You certainly get the gist of the issues but interpret them in an interesting manner. It's obvious "t" is your boogey man, it's a free country and your choice to think that way. I have no idea what you think I'm afraid of, kinda weird actually. And I don't know what you mean by circular t-party complaints.

Do yourself a favor, take a peek at the not vaxxed statistics.
 
You certainly get the gist of the issues but interpret them in an interesting manner. It's obvious "t" is your boogey man, it's a free country and your choice to think that way. I have no idea what you think I'm afraid of, kinda weird actually. And I don't know what you mean by circular t-party complaints.

Do yourself a favor, take a peek at the not vaxxed statistics.
He lives in a dem propoganda bubble. By that I mean is whenever he comes across an idea or an opinion he doesn't like or understand his default is: racist, t supporter, etc.

He has a stunning inability to actually have a back and forth with anyone without calling them names. Note his default statements on anyone he disagrees with.
 
Seems rather open to interpretation since it goes back and forth depending on which party is in power (ie DOJ opinion)

But what you are advocating and what the dems are advocating is fishing expeditions.

What you want is the ability to pull taxes to see if you can find a crime. That is not the way we do things. This what authoritarian regimes and banana republics do.

The precedent you want is that political parties can without evidence of a crime go after their political opponents by digging around personal information.

That is not a good thing for this country. That if allowed allows increased partisanship and division.
 
Seems rather open to interpretation since it goes back and forth depending on which party is in power (ie DOJ opinion)

But what you are advocating and what the dems are advocating is fishing expeditions.

What you want is the ability to pull taxes to see if you can find a crime. That is not the way we do things. This what authoritarian regimes and banana republics do.

The precedent you want is that political parties can without evidence of a crime go after their political opponents by digging around personal information.

That is not a good thing for this country. That if allowed allows increased partisanship and division.

What does any of that have to do with your obvious encouragement of crime?
 
What does any of that have to do with your obvious encouragement of crime?
Evade a crime?

What crime did he commit?

What the dems want is the ability to dig through personal information to see if they can FIND a crime.

That is what you are advocating for.

Kind of sad that people get so partisan that they toss out norms to get what they HOPE will help them out politically.
 
Evade a crime?

What crime did he commit?

What the dems want is the ability to dig through personal information to see if they can FIND a crime.

That is what you are advocating for.

Kind of sad that people get so partisan that they toss out norms to get what they HOPE will help them out politically.

You didn't answer the question.
 
Hey brainless one.

The largest group of people not vaxxed are reliable D voters.

Putting that aside.

Covid is not particularly dangerous to the vast majority of the population. That is a fact.

So those not getting it are entirely rationale in their thinking.

The group at risk? They have been vaxxed at a very high rate.

What has been the result?

Deaths have fallen dramatically.

Stop living in fear. You can stop worry about covid at this point.
You might want to redo your analysis of the 30-49 demographic. Age 18-49 is now about half of new covid hospital admissions. You can bet it’s the older end of it.

Some of that is the difference in vax rates. But not all of it. We still have 10% non-vaccinated for over 65. By the numbers for original covid, that 10% should completely dominate. And it isn’t.

It also doesn’t explain how you get 25,000 people under 50 and currently hospitalized with covid. We didn’t have that during the winter surge.

The simplest explanation is that Delta is significantly riskier for 30-49 than original covid.
 
See there is your trolling again.

You want to see Trumps tax returns so the dems can dig.

What crime did he commit? Outside of fishing around, what is the legal reason? Trick question. It is partisan politics.

What does that have to do with your encouragement of a federal crime?
 
You might want to redo your analysis of the 30-49 demographic. Age 18-49 is now about half of new covid hospital admissions. You can bet it’s the older end of it.

Some of that is the difference in vax rates. But not all of it. We still have 10% non-vaccinated for over 65. By the numbers for original covid, that 10% should completely dominate. And it isn’t.

It also doesn’t explain how you get 25,000 people under 50 and currently hospitalized with covid. We didn’t have that during the winter surge.

The simplest explanation is that Delta is significantly riskier for 30-49 than original covid.
Dad, honest question. You know baby crush life story. You know Big Crush is a no for jabs. My chance of making a living to feed my family went from slim to zipo with the new information I just received for folks like me. Do you think i should be forced to take the jabs to buy and sell or should I have a special free pass that allows me to skip the experiment?
 
You might want to redo your analysis of the 30-49 demographic. Age 18-49 is now about half of new covid hospital admissions. You can bet it’s the older end of it.

Some of that is the difference in vax rates. But not all of it. We still have 10% non-vaccinated for over 65. By the numbers for original covid, that 10% should completely dominate. And it isn’t.

It also doesn’t explain how you get 25,000 people under 50 and currently hospitalized with covid. We didn’t have that during the winter surge.

The simplest explanation is that Delta is significantly riskier for 30-49 than original covid.

If I were a religious man, I would be praying that a new variant that targets children does not evolve in the swamp of the voluntarily unvaccinated.
 
You might want to redo your analysis of the 30-49 demographic. Age 18-49 is now about half of new covid hospital admissions. You can bet it’s the older end of it.

Some of that is the difference in vax rates. But not all of it. We still have 10% non-vaccinated for over 65. By the numbers for original covid, that 10% should completely dominate. And it isn’t.

It also doesn’t explain how you get 25,000 people under 50 and currently hospitalized with covid. We didn’t have that during the winter surge.

The simplest explanation is that Delta is significantly riskier for 30-49 than original covid.
Lol! What new virus hasn't been riskier than the last? I'm sure your numbers are being hyped when we look at IFR.
 
The simplest explanation is that Delta is significantly riskier for 30-49 than original covid.
That stats from the countries that have already experienced the wave and are done with it...clearly show delta is NOT an issue. Deaths barely moved.

To pretend otherwise is...well just pretending.

We don't need to wonder what will happen with Delta spreading through the population. We can already look at a number of countries in the west. They neither had an issue with a rise in deaths NOR had to dealt with their hospital systems coming anywhere CLOSE to having issues.

Look at the data.

"Coronavirus: While Delta infections in UK continue to be high and rising, there has not been a corresponding rise in the number of hospitalisations, study said."


The Reassuring Data on the Delta Variant
There’s no sign of a surge in hospitalization or severe illness, and the vaccines remain extremely effective


"Surprise dip in UK COVID cases baffles researchers
Daily recorded infections have more than halved since mid-July. Few researchers anticipated such a sharp decline, and they are now struggling to interpret it."

---Same article states this. Sound familiar?

"Exponential growth in infections since June led to predictions of as many as 100,000 new cases being reported daily, and fears that the National Health Service (NHS) could be overwhelmed by hospitalizations."

But that didn't happen...and per the article: "Few public-health experts, however, anticipated the recent sharp drop — and they are struggling to interpret it.

 
That stats from the countries that have already experienced the wave and are done with it...clearly show delta is NOT an issue. Deaths barely moved.

To pretend otherwise is...well just pretending.

We don't need to wonder what will happen with Delta spreading through the population. We can already look at a number of countries in the west. They neither had an issue with a rise in deaths NOR had to dealt with their hospital systems coming anywhere CLOSE to having issues.

Look at the data.

"Coronavirus: While Delta infections in UK continue to be high and rising, there has not been a corresponding rise in the number of hospitalisations, study said."


The Reassuring Data on the Delta Variant
There’s no sign of a surge in hospitalization or severe illness, and the vaccines remain extremely effective


"Surprise dip in UK COVID cases baffles researchers
Daily recorded infections have more than halved since mid-July. Few researchers anticipated such a sharp decline, and they are now struggling to interpret it."

---Same article states this. Sound familiar?

"Exponential growth in infections since June led to predictions of as many as 100,000 new cases being reported daily, and fears that the National Health Service (NHS) could be overwhelmed by hospitalizations."

But that didn't happen...and per the article: "Few public-health experts, however, anticipated the recent sharp drop — and they are struggling to interpret it.

Japan's current IFR is .0008 and .015 since Feb 2020.
 
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