You don't consider your post-Wison paragraph to be history?
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You don't consider your post-Wison paragraph to be history?
p.s. a quick google search of the issue revealed that your "fact" is actually in contention. The issue seems to be that there were no specific abortion laws because courts at the time just assumed that it was the murder of a person. Admittedly the sources are mostly from pro life source. But again, it's a historical point that I don't really care about so I don't really care about who is correct on the point. I won't even post them here because I don't know whether they are right or wrong....it's not my area. Again, arguendo, I'll take your word for it, but it's irrelevant to the discussion outside of the fevered back and forth between the pro-life pro-right to choose fanatics.
No. Legal theory. You are Magooing it again. While a knowledge of the basics of history are useful in certain areas of law school (English history for example is particularly useful in understanding contracts and torts), it's not taught there. I'm not making a historical point, but a legal/political one.
What did they get wrong?
Abortion in American History
The year after abortion was legalized in New York State, the maternal-mortality rate there dropped by 45 percent—one reason why legalization can be seen as “a public-health triumph.”www.theatlantic.com
The surprising history of abortion in the United States
Abortion was once simply part of life in the United States. Then, for about 100 years, it was illegal. How we got there and got to where we are now may surprise you.www.cnn.com
A brief history of US abortion law, before and after Roe v Wade
In a landmark decision, the US Supreme Court has overturned the nationwide legal right to abortion – a right enshrined almost half a century ago, in 1973, through the cast of Roe v Wade. Here, Professor Mary Ziegler charts the history of abortion law in the USA before and after Roe v Wade, and...www.historyextra.com
A Brief History of Abortion Law in America
For America's first century, abortion wasn’t banned in a single US state. It's only become a hot-button issue in recent decades.billmoyers.com
Have not verified the veracity of this tweet but it's consistent with some things I'm hearing out of education circles and the LA Times piece from the LA Unified Sup. The unions are beginning to move forward the idea that schools should not be fully reopened until children are vaccinated. For the 16-18 that may be early-late summer depending when we get the AZ or J&J vaccines approved. For the 12-16 it's between early fall-winter. For the under 12s it's increasingly looking like 2022.
@kickingandscreaming as I said before, the emergency will be over in at max 100 days as the elderly get vaccinated. This is increasingly a political fight, Expect the same fight in LA County, though the dynamics may shift if Newsom is in fact recalled.
@kickingandscreaming as I said before, the emergency will be over in at max 100 days as the elderly get vaccinated. This is increasingly a political fight, Expect the same fight in LA County, though the dynamics may shift if Newsom is in fact recalled.
I'm always eager to learn. Show me.
Nah. You'll say I stand by the sources, almost all of which are pro life. I don't know if they are reputable or not. Further, again don't care...the issue is kind of irrelevant to me. If you really are "eager to learn" take a deep dive into the pro life sources.
Again (I have lost track of the number of times) you make a statement and then expect me to do your research for you.
You're the one who cares about this point. I don't. I find it irrelevant. I've lost track of the number of times you go off on irrelevant tangents because you don't understand what the rest of us are talking about and it goes over your head.
You mean like the e scale?
Thanks for proving my point by going down another rabbit hole! You even cite another conversation which 2 of us were having in which you jumped in because you didn't understand what we were talking about.
Glitterhater
SILVER ELITE
Knock knock- the sad thing is, I think you are both smart, and probably know a lot more than I do about all the things. Build a bridge people! We can do this- lessss go!
Do you see where you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion there?
Here's a hint -- if you want to have a private conversation with someone, an open forum isn't the place to do it.
Oh he's really smart. He's no dumb dumb. But the issue (maybe because of his age) is he has a tendency to get lost and only gets half the fragment of what's being talked about, hence that certain cartoon character. I've extended my hand several times to build a bridge but he always insists on being less courteous and/or gracious. It's why it's funny he was calling out Scott m Shuersom....pot/kettle.
See response above. I'm not saying it's a private conversation. I'm saying you have a tendency to get lost, to miss the forest for the trees, of the conversation which is happening.
Desert Hound
DA
It is not when you think about how the loyalty let's say of Senator's changed.
Prior to the passage they were beholden to the interests of their states.
Post they became creatures of Washington. Nationwide interests buy them off now, vs being interested in state power due to that is where their base was.
After the 17th, Senators became beholden to interests in and around Washington vs interests in Phx or Sacramento per say.
This has been one of the reasons the balance between states and feds has tilted heavily towards the feds.
That is a simplistic explanation of what the 17th did.
This is why I stopped responding to E. He goes in circles. Asks rhetorical questions.
What would this forum be like if rhetorical questions were not allowed?
Hüsker Dü
DA
He’s just repeating his dear leader. Stupid runs thick in that crowd.@Grace T. Did you see your acquaintances recent slip up:
Cruz Roasted For Tweet That Appears To Reveal His Ignorance About The Paris Climate Agreement
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) mocked Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) early Thursday for...talkingpointsmemo.com
This one definitely made me laugh out loud.
espola was so nice to me when I first came here. I looked to him for sage advice. He ignores me now. Both of you are very intellectual and dam smart. Many on here are so smart. I could never compete so I just became a smart ass and then I kick ass on the play ground sports and water sports. I thrive outside, not inside. I'm learning how to talk and write without being so emotional and with that chip on my right shoulder.
Biden Press Secretary Already Dodging Questions on How Biden Will Expand Abortion
Kill Bill, Kill Bill, Kill Bill!!!!!
I guess this makes me a magat because I want to save the lives of innocent children. Most of these kids wont see the light of day. Some of these beautiful babies will be sold or used for experiments like they do for rats. Some will have their organs harvested so evil, fat ass men can live longer. Some of are used for__________________________________________________________________and so many other evil and satanic rituals. Sick sh*t!!!
Her response: “Well, I think we’ll have more to say on the Mexico City Policy in the coming days, but I will just take the opportunity to remind all of you that he is a devout Catholic and somebody who attends church regularly. He started his day attending church with his family this morning.
Is she serious? What a joke!!!
Kill Bill, Kill Bill, Kill Bill!!!!!
I guess this makes me a magat because I want to save the lives of innocent children. Most of these kids wont see the light of day. Some of these beautiful babies will be sold or used for experiments like they do for rats. Some will have their organs harvested so evil, fat ass men can live longer. Some of are used for__________________________________________________________________and so many other evil and satanic rituals. Sick sh*t!!!
Her response: “Well, I think we’ll have more to say on the Mexico City Policy in the coming days, but I will just take the opportunity to remind all of you that he is a devout Catholic and somebody who attends church regularly. He started his day attending church with his family this morning.
Is she serious? What a joke!!!