Bad News Thread

Interesting paper. Being forced to work in person, or high density living situations were the key drivers of the pandemic (notwithstanding that they lay this partially on "systemic racism", presumably because people of color had to work and lived in worse housing than the white people in big housing with remote work).

AAAS

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Grace T. said:
No…the left has an agenda too. It may not be “crt” (don’t care what you label it) but there is an ideology or ism behind this effort on the left to update the curriculum. In fact I’m sure the right would say they are just reacting to the lefts efforts to push an agenda. When a perspective depends on your partisan bias it’s time to check that bias.

Only you would believe that only one side of this has an agenda and it isn’t yours.
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My exposure to this has been through news stories about organized groups attending local school board meetings demanding that CRT be removed from local schools. When the board and superintendent respond that there is no such content, nor any plans for any such content, that doesn't seem to satisfy them. Now we are hearing from more conscientious debaters like Grace that there are plans to introduce it into the curriculum real soon now, as if that justifies the original hysteria.
 
Grace T. said:
Interesting paper. Being forced to work in person, or high density living situations were the key drivers of the pandemic (notwithstanding that they lay this partially on "systemic racism", presumably because people of color had to work and lived in worse housing than the white people in big housing with remote work).

AAAS

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"Structural racism" is not the same as "systemic racism".
 
Hüsker Dü said:
The hybrid is now simply referred to as “trumpism”.
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You guys crack me up. And you say all of this either with straight face or a smirk. Regardless, it's funny. Keep it up.

Layout your comparison between trumpy and Nazism. You give him way too much credit. It is convenient though. Snatch out of thin air one of the most horrible things that has happened to humanity and attribute it to someone/something you disagree with. It aligns with how journalism is performed in today's world.
 
dad4 said:
Which is which?

Is CRT an agenda which the right reacted to?

Or is anti-CRT an agenda which the left is reacting to?

Looks like both, at least to me.
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Its' what drives the $$$ into their coffers. Secretly both sides are drinking bourbon and smoking cigars together.
 
what-happened said:
You guys crack me up. And you say all of this either with straight face or a smirk. Regardless, it's funny. Keep it up.

Layout your comparison between trumpy and Nazism. You give him way too much credit. It is convenient though. Snatch out of thin air one of the most horrible things that has happened to humanity and attribute it to someone/something you disagree with. It aligns with how journalism is performed in today's world.
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Do you have a better candidate for American Furher?
 
espola said:
My exposure to this has been through news stories about organized groups attending local school board meetings demanding that CRT be removed from local schools. When the board and superintendent respond that there is no such content, nor any plans for any such content, that doesn't seem to satisfy them. Now we are hearing from more conscientious debaters like Grace that there are plans to introduce it into the curriculum real soon now, as if that justifies the original hysteria.
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I don’t know about crt but the post modernists have been pushing an agenda…we’ve heard about the math, there’s the reading curriculum, and ultimately in boils down to which text books are purchased and under which of the 3 philosophies they are written. I’ve seen it at play in our own school board and even in the dynamics of my kids 2 private schools. To say there’s nothing going on here and you are crazy if you think there so is the worst form of gaslighting.


You are just parroting their talking points btw which in the end should put to rest an notion you are a “conservative” which I always found hysterical
 
dad4 said:
Which is which?

Is CRT an agenda which the right reacted to?

Or is anti-CRT an agenda which the left is reacting to?

Looks like both, at least to me.
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Spoken like a true modernist. I know you are a modernist at heart but it is funny to see you go at it with your buds.
 
espola said:
Do you have a better candidate for American Furher?
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No such thing as an American Fuhrer. Cool headline though - I can see it now in the NYT, Rolling Stone, etc. I don't know you but it's quite a disturbing take and really minimizes a tragedy. But it fits into a narrative perpetuated by a group of people that need to market a made up bad guy in a weak attempt to display intellect. Such nonsense that it's comical. But this narrative is making people a ton of money. I'll make sure to let my Jewish friends in on the secret that trumpy is the Fuhrer reincarnate and that they better run for the hills.

I'm sure you are joking...still doesn't make it less gross.
 
Grace T. said:
I don’t know about crt but the post modernists have been pushing an agenda…we’ve heard about the math, there’s the reading curriculum, and ultimately in boils down to which text books are purchased and under which of the 3 philosophies they are written. I’ve seen it at play in our own school board and even in the dynamics of my kids 2 private schools. To say there’s nothing going on here and you are crazy if you think there so is the worst form of gaslighting.


You are just parroting their talking points btw which in the end should put to rest an notion you are a “conservative” which I always found hysterical
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Coocoo.

And in this case, that is fully adequate.
 
espola said:
My exposure to this has been through news stories about organized groups attending local school board meetings demanding that CRT be removed from local schools. When the board and superintendent respond that there is no such content, nor any plans for any such content, that doesn't seem to satisfy them. Now we are hearing from more conscientious debaters like Grace that there are plans to introduce it into the curriculum real soon now, as if that justifies the original hysteria.
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From a private school, but my kid has brought home nonsense of the CRT sort.

They honestly believed that it was definitionally impossible to have anti-white racism. It made me wonder what the school, and I, are doing to develop critical thinking skills.
 
what-happened said:
No such thing as an American Fuhrer. Cool headline though - I can see it now in the NYT, Rolling Stone, etc. I don't know you but it's quite a disturbing take and really minimizes a tragedy. But it fits into a narrative perpetuated by a group of people that need to market a made up bad guy in a weak attempt to display intellect. Such nonsense that it's comical. But this narrative is making people a ton of money. I'll make sure to let my Jewish friends in on the secret that trumpy is the Fuhrer reincarnate and that they better run for the hills.

I'm sure you are joking...still doesn't make it less gross.
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The American Nazis have never had a better friend in the White House.
 
Grace T. said:
I don’t know about crt but the post modernists have been pushing an agenda…we’ve heard about the math, there’s the reading curriculum, and ultimately in boils down to which text books are purchased and under which of the 3 philosophies they are written. I’ve seen it at play in our own school board and even in the dynamics of my kids 2 private schools. To say there’s nothing going on here and you are crazy if you think there so is the worst form of gaslighting.


You are just parroting their talking points btw which in the end should put to rest an notion you are a “conservative” which I always found hysterical
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I'm still the same conservative I ever was. The definition was stolen and wandered away from me.
 
what-happened said:
No such thing as an American Fuhrer. Cool headline though - I can see it now in the NYT, Rolling Stone, etc. I don't know you but it's quite a disturbing take and really minimizes a tragedy. But it fits into a narrative perpetuated by a group of people that need to market a made up bad guy in a weak attempt to display intellect. Such nonsense that it's comical. But this narrative is making people a ton of money. I'll make sure to let my Jewish friends in on the secret that trumpy is the Fuhrer reincarnate and that they better run for the hills.

I'm sure you are joking...still doesn't make it less gross.
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Cult of personality. One man demanding pure allegiance to him and him only, anyone who sways is essentially excommunicated and demonized. trump is not many things, a true fascist included, but he uses whatever profits him personally. On the hitler to Berlusconi scale he is somewhere in between, which he is closer to is up for debate.
 
espola said:
The American Nazis have never had a better friend in the White House.
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As I have said before the skinhead, self-admitted white supremacist I once worked with said as soon as trump came down the escalator and gave that speech announcing his candidacy he spoke his language. “It’s like he was talking to me.”
 
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