Are they really interested?

[Socal-Soccer-Dad]

You guys are taking off in a direction that isn’t in this situation. I already stated above this guy rarely does privates. He’s doing a private for a very, very good friend of ours so I reached out asking if we could just go after that person. He doesn’t really do a lot of privates at all. It’s my son and another boy that’s ECNL that’s not on his team. So This post is taking off in a different direction. No one said privates are necessary to be on his team. He’s not doing privates with anyone on his team.

lol I know a lot of parents here have PTSD with youth soccer so they automatically assume the worst…

As stated by OP, I think it’s a natural progression and fine. Did some privates and saw enough quality in the kid to ask him to come join the trainings which is a great sign.

I’d ask the coach what he thinks. “Hey coach, what do you think? How do you think he fits with the team?” Usually a coach will give a direct answer. Even if he or she doesn’t, I think HOW they answer will give a good feel for where the kid stands in the team.

I’m going through this with my boys. For one of them, after 2 trainings, the coach grabbed me after and told me he had a starting spot. For another, I had to bring it up after a few trainings and coach said he had a spot but I can tell it’s more tepid of a response. Which makes total sense. Former is higher quality vs his peers than the latter vs his peers. Just different places in their development and natural talents.

I’d ask the coach. They’re receptive to it cause it’s tryout season. Many will give you a straight answer.

Good luck!

 

[rainbow_unicorn]

Thanks all! I really appreciate the advice. I know have received a 4th email from the lower team coach again asking him to come to his practice! It’s still a great team also. So I needed to reach out to coach A and ask him straight up! Both coaches saw him during a scrimmage but not all the players were there. He did well and coach B is definitely trying to poach him. I just don’t know how to respond to him when I don’t have clear thoughts on what coach A is thinking yet.

Coach B is not trying to poach. Coach A feels that the player is not going to contribute to his team (for now) so he's letting Coach B reach out. Maybe if the player develops nicely under Coach B then player will have a shot at A team. Maybe.

 

[crush]

lol I know a lot of parents here have PTSD with youth soccer so they automatically assume the worst…

As stated by OP, I think it’s a natural progression and fine. Did some privates and saw enough quality in the kid to ask him to come join the trainings which is a great sign.

I’d ask the coach what he thinks. “Hey coach, what do you think? How do you think he fits with the team?” Usually a coach will give a direct answer. Even if he or she doesn’t, I think HOW they answer will give a good feel for where the kid stands in the team.

I’m going through this with my boys. For one of them, after 2 trainings, the coach grabbed me after and told me he had a starting spot. For another, I had to bring it up after a few trainings and coach said he had a spot but I can tell it’s more tepid of a response. Which makes total sense. Former is higher quality vs his peers than the latter vs his peers. Just different places in their development and natural talents.

I’d ask the coach. They’re receptive to it cause it’s tryout season. Many will give you a straight answer.

Good luck!

Great stuff here. Did anyone have a Doc and or coach grab you and say, hey dad, your kid has beaten my team twice with her goals. I am now a US National Scout, Director of the USA Youth Soccer Training Center and Director and Coach for the Girls Academy down here in lovely San Diego and I make the recommendations on who gets invited to Youth National Camp. Based on what I see, your kid has a spot and my recommendation." So, I want to offer you this once in a lifetime offer. Full ride, free uniforms, free travel, free privates and free access and so much more. All you have to do is STFU!!!!

My PTSD is strong bro. This place triggers me all the time because I come here for therapy and a place to release m PTSD. I do agree with Rainbow Unicorn for a change. He/she comes from a coach's perspective and that is needed to help bring change. I have reached to DOGE and I'm still waiting for a response.

 

[Jamisfoes]

Great stuff here. Did anyone have a Doc and or coach grab you and say, hey dad, your kid has beaten my team twice with her goals. I am now a US National Scout, Director of the USA Youth Soccer Training Center and Director and Coach for the Girls Academy down here in lovely San Diego and I make the recommendations on who gets invited to Youth National Camp. Based on what I see, your kid has a spot and my recommendation." So, I want to offer you this once in a lifetime offer. Full ride, free uniforms, free travel, free privates and free access and so much more. All you have to do is STFU!!!!

My PTSD is strong bro. This place triggers me all the time because I come here for therapy and a place to release m PTSD. I do agree with Rainbow Unicorn for a change. He/she comes from a coach's perspective and that is needed to help bring change. I have reached to DOGE and I'm still waiting for a response.

Crush, we’ve had kids who get scholarships. Because the team manager has a big mouth, all the parents know who are getting a free ride. Things are all good when the kids are playing well. As soon as they slack a bit, they are also the first ones get benched. Why? Because they didn’t pay. When you get a free ride, the club owns you and they won’t care about your feelings.

 

[Slobodan]

Crush, we’ve had kids who get scholarships. Because the team manager has a big mouth, all the parents know who are getting a free ride. Things are all good when the kids are playing well. As soon as they slack a bit, they are also the first ones get benched. Why? Because they didn’t pay. When you get a free ride, the club owns you and they won’t care about your feelings.

In fairness, my experience says the club owns you and doesn't give a shit about your feelings when you pay, either.

 

[crush]

Crush, we’ve had kids who get scholarships. Because the team manager has a big mouth, all the parents know who are getting a free ride. Things are all good when the kids are playing well. As soon as they slack a bit, they are also the first ones get benched. Why? Because they didn’t pay. When you get a free ride, the club owns you and they won’t care about your feelings.

I will share a positive from a Doc in the past, who also ran a US Soccer Training Center in the IE. Offer was Fully free ride but did not use his influence of Director of Training Center or as Director of Girls for IE Academy to say my kid has a spot if she comes. A true class act and up front about working hard and earning everything. I liked him.

 

[Socal-Soccer-Dad]

Crush, we’ve had kids who get scholarships. Because the team manager has a big mouth, all the parents know who are getting a free ride. Things are all good when the kids are playing well. As soon as they slack a bit, they are also the first ones get benched. Why? Because they didn’t pay. When you get a free ride, the club owns you and they won’t care about your feelings.

As I get older, I realize… Nothing’s ever really free. Someone pays it. Or you pay it in some other ways.

“Free” can be very expensive.

 

[Bereal]

Coach B is not trying to poach. Coach A feels that the player is not going to contribute to his team (for now) so he's letting Coach B reach out. Maybe if the player develops nicely under Coach B then player will have a shot at A team. Maybe.

Ok, So why would coach A personally tell my daughter to come back to his training and not do a "hand off" and communicate. It's not the same training he invited her back to his training.

 

[Grace T.]

Ok, So why would coach A personally tell my daughter to come back to his training and not do a "hand off" and communicate. It's not the same training he invited her back to his training.

Now it’s a girl?

Sounds like he’s being nice. Coaches sometimes get bonus $$ for recruiting players which they can split. Listen to your instincts: nature put them there for a reason. It’s a process you are trying to control that you can’t control. It’s like guys and dating: unless you are an aspie that has difficulty reading social cues, you’d know if she was into you. If you come off as desperate and there’s still even a little interest there, you’ll scare her off. It’s men are from mars women from Venus 101.

Ps the fact this is a girl also changes things…if your son sucks (not saying he she does) they’d be more likely to tell you to your face.

 

[Bereal]

Now it’s a girl?

Sounds like he’s being nice. Coaches sometimes get bonus $$ for recruiting players which they can split. Listen to your instincts: nature put them there for a reason. It’s a process you are trying to control that you can’t control. It’s like guys and dating: unless you are an aspie that has difficulty reading social cues, you’d know if she was into you. If you come off as desperate and there’s still even a little interest there, you’ll scare her off. It’s men are from mars women from Venus 101.

Ps the fact this is a girl also changes things…if your son sucks (not saying he she does) they’d be more likely to tell you to your face.

Nope, not my daughter. I was handling something with my daughter at the time! Typo since she was on my mind. But I'll let you know how it plays out. Advice and thoughts were much appreciated and considered.

 

[crush]

Nope, not my daughter. I was handling something with my daughter at the time! Typo since she was on my mind. But I'll let you know how it plays out. Advice and thoughts were much appreciated and considered.

It's happened to the best of us bro. Please keep us posted and I hope everything works out for your son & daughter

 

[Messi>CR7]

Nope, not my daughter. I was handling something with my daughter at the time! Typo since she was on my mind. But I'll let you know how it plays out. Advice and thoughts were much appreciated and considered.

It's also possible that coach A is waiting on another player who plays the same position as your kid.

My older one once went to four training sessions and still wasn't given a yes or a no. I called the coach and told him nicely we ran out of time and need to give an answer to another offer (wasn't a total bluff but we still had time). The very next day coach called and offered a spot.

 

[Bereal]

It's happened to the best of us bro. Please keep us posted and I hope everything works out for your son & daughter

lol!

It's also possible that coach A is waiting on another player who plays the same position as your kid.

My older one once went to four training sessions and still wasn't given a yes or a no. I called the coach and told him nicely we ran out of time and need to give an answer to another offer (wasn't a total bluff but we still had time). The very next day coach called and offered a spot.

There's not doubt there is still time for coach to look at other talent. He has every reason to stall and see what comes his way. My son is on the bubble for sure. Also, I believe he is waiting for all his players to come back . When my son attended training, coach didn't have all his players there. Many were missing.