Actions in support of the Second Amendment

espola said:
I have posted an answer on this topic more than, once, but it's not in the President's power to enact on his own --

A year of compulsory national service, thus taking the "well-regulated militia" phrase of the 2A seriously. The year could be accomplished within 5 years of HS graduation (or by age 25 if not a HS graduate), consisting of basic military training, specialty weapons/tactics training for those capable and willing, and service in a hard-to-fill billet for the remainder of the time, perhaps just KP duty in support of the basic/specialty training. Successful completion of the weapons training would permit the citizen to possess a standard weapon issued to him to be maintained in his residence for use in times of national need. The "year" could alternately be completed by a 4-year program similar to ROTC with a reserve officer's commission at college graduation. For those opposed to military training, an alternate one year (or four 3-month segments) of service, similar to local community service programs but on a national scale -- things like National Forest/National Park grunt work, service as an orderly in a VA hospital, or something similar.

This would not only have the benefit of added manpower at low cost, but also the benefit of weeding out those who should never have access to powerful weapons.
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^^^^That's your solution to gun control and crime in America?!?! I bet you sat there and thought your were forming a well-thought answer. I'm sure all the criminals will just be beating the recruiter's office door down to get in and sign up. If that's all you could come up to solve gun control problems, which in reality is a crime-related problem, since law-abiding citizens don't break the law, then we really are destined for failure.

Access to powerful weapons? How do you define who has access and who doesn't? You could say a 9mm is a powerful weapon. Yet my 10yo has been shooting since age 7 and has better safe gun handling skills than many adults I've seen around firearms. And don't get me started with criminals. It's obvious how they view firearms. Especially the ones who aren't permitted to have one, yet still seem to find access to one and commit more crimes.
 
pewpew said:
^^^^That's your solution to gun control and crime in America?!?! I bet you sat there and thought your were forming a well-thought answer. I'm sure all the criminals will just be beating the recruiter's office door down to get in and sign up. If that's all you could come up to solve gun control problems, which in reality is a crime-related problem, since law-abiding citizens don't break the law, then we really are destined for failure.

Access to powerful weapons? How do you define who has access and who doesn't? You could say a 9mm is a powerful weapon. Yet my 10yo has been shooting since age 7 and has better safe gun handling skills than many adults I've seen around firearms. And don't get me started with criminals. It's obvious how they view firearms. Especially the ones who aren't permitted to have one, yet still seem to find access to one and commit more crimes.
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I'm guessing you have never been to Boot Camp in any service.
 
espola said:
Anti-bad-cop. I have good cops in my family.

Bad cop example --
Bad cops wheeling victim into hospital ER--

Victim: "I can't feel my legs."
Bad cop: "We're done with your little games."


There's a longer version youtube video mostly made from the bad-cop bodycam videos out there, if you choose to search for it.
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So are you anti bad President as well? With all the evidence pointing to how bad Uncle Joe is you still support him. What about anti bad VP? Anti bad organization? Like the fraud that is BLM?
 
espola said:
Only because it is true,
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Weird. When I said something was true you went off the handle accusing me of things all because you assumed I just didnt like an opposing viewpoint, even after I showed the author to be a known liar. Yet now your response is, " because its true"?

Hypocrites gonna hypocrite.
 
espola said:
I have posted an answer on this topic more than, once, but it's not in the President's power to enact on his own --

A year of compulsory national service, thus taking the "well-regulated militia" phrase of the 2A seriously. The year could be accomplished within 5 years of HS graduation (or by age 25 if not a HS graduate), consisting of basic military training, specialty weapons/tactics training for those capable and willing, and service in a hard-to-fill billet for the remainder of the time, perhaps just KP duty in support of the basic/specialty training. Successful completion of the weapons training would permit the citizen to possess a standard weapon issued to him to be maintained in his residence for use in times of national need. The "year" could alternately be completed by a 4-year program similar to ROTC with a reserve officer's commission at college graduation. For those opposed to military training, an alternate one year (or four 3-month segments) of service, similar to local community service programs but on a national scale -- things like National Forest/National Park grunt work, service as an orderly in a VA hospital, or something similar.

This would not only have the benefit of added manpower at low cost, but also the benefit of weeding out those who should never have access to powerful weapons.
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wut? well, at least you tried.
 
espola said:
You remind me of those videos of cops making self-serving statements after they fuck something up just for the benefit of their bodycam record.
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There are bad cops. Nobody disputes that. Just like there a bad judges, bad doctors, bad teachers and dirty presidents with coke snorting kids. The bigger issue is weeding them out. When you comply, instead of acting like a dumb animal, they weed themselves out.

When you say "defund the police" and write million dollar checks to the family of a dirty criminal that died resisting arrest, because you need the votes or just don't have the balls to hold criminals accountable, you reinforce that dirty behavior.
 
espola said:
Anti-bad-cop. I have good cops in my family.

Bad cop example --
Bad cops wheeling victim into hospital ER--

Victim: "I can't feel my legs."
Bad cop: "We're done with your little games."


There's a longer version youtube video mostly made from the bad-cop bodycam videos out there, if you choose to search for it.
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DUI hit and run. Chose to resist arrest. I don't have a ton of sympathy.
 
espola said:
I have posted an answer on this topic more than, once, but it's not in the President's power to enact on his own --

A year of compulsory national service, thus taking the "well-regulated militia" phrase of the 2A seriously. The year could be accomplished within 5 years of HS graduation (or by age 25 if not a HS graduate), consisting of basic military training, specialty weapons/tactics training for those capable and willing, and service in a hard-to-fill billet for the remainder of the time, perhaps just KP duty in support of the basic/specialty training. Successful completion of the weapons training would permit the citizen to possess a standard weapon issued to him to be maintained in his residence for use in times of national need. The "year" could alternately be completed by a 4-year program similar to ROTC with a reserve officer's commission at college graduation. For those opposed to military training, an alternate one year (or four 3-month segments) of service, similar to local community service programs but on a national scale -- things like National Forest/National Park grunt work, service as an orderly in a VA hospital, or something similar.

This would not only have the benefit of added manpower at low cost, but also the benefit of weeding out those who should never have access to powerful weapons.
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I don't think it's fair to force an American citizen to serve in order to protect their family. I'm in favor of some kind of background/certification process, but let's be honest... neither of those really stops bad guys from accessing the millions of guns on the street. Right?

I'd say you're better off with a mandatory, minimum sentence of 10-20 years for any kind of a gun crime. And when you tell me the prisons are too full now, I'll tell you there's a lot of empty land out there just waiting for good fertilizer.
 
Slobodan said:
I don't think it's fair to force an American citizen to serve in order to protect their family. I'm in favor of some kind of background/certification process, but let's be honest... neither of those really stops bad guys from accessing the millions of guns on the street. Right?

I'd say you're better off with a mandatory, minimum sentence of 10-20 years for any kind of a gun crime. And when you tell me the prisons are too full now, I'll tell you there's a lot of empty land out there just waiting for good fertilizer.
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How do those “millions of guns on the streets” get there?
 
espola said:
I'm guessing you have never been to Boot Camp in any service.
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Nope. I missed my window. Enlisted in the USMC a week after I graduated HS with the plans to come out and join LASD. A few knee injuries in HS playing football with another knee injury 2 months before shipping out for Boot Camp washed it all down the drain. Had surgery a few months later.
I don't have many regrets in my life, not being able to serve is one, if not my biggest.

Not having served in the military will change nothing when it comes to criminals with guns. The only difference they have is no formal training with firearms. Won't stop them from pulling the trigger and causing harm to others.
 
espola said:
apnews.com

Maryland man charged with hate crimes in parking dispute killings

Maryland prosecutors have filed hate crime charges against a man accused of killing three people and wounding three more in a dispute over parking.
apnews.com apnews.com
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The only time it's a hate crime is when it's a White person shooting anyone that isn't White. But if a Black person shoots other black people it just gets chalked up to another day in the 'hood. Nothing to see. Move along.
Did you forget about the link I posted of that Black guy on a shooting spree in NYC..and the old guy he shot that bleeds out on the street. Where's the outrage from that? Haven't heard a damn thing about that anymore have you?!
 
espola said:
I am not opposed to responsible, law-abiding citizens owning guns. In the little town where I grew up, we boys as teenagers occasionally walked down Main Street carrying our guns on the way to hunting in the hills and farms outside town. The only reaction we got was someone shouting "Good luck, boys!"
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This was your only reply to me calling you out on that POS in NYC. So you post your dumb links, my guess would be without vetting out any of the details, and once you get called out on it you move on to something else.
 
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