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tenacious said:
I don't disagree with your aim. Just as someone whose has spent most of his adult life living in cities run by democrats, I'm losing faith in their ability to deliver the goods when it comes to reform. At seems like a lot of the time "making things better" don't end up as promised.

The democrats have become so beholden to political correctness, that they can't deliver. That's just my read on it.
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But I also think, as is always the case with a big “social change” upheavals, that the ultimate reforms will be incremental only.
Responsible people, including the Dem politicians, still support and recognize the need for police...but we now see that retraining is necessary.
Trump’s hard-core opposition is costing him daily. He doesn’t want to lead America to unity.
 
tenacious said:
I think a crowd like that comes marching through your neighborhood, and your kids are peeking out the window calling out to their mom about being afraid you won't be sleeping. Guns or not.

That said, if I was going to go carrying a pitchfork into someone else's neighborhood trying to scare people, the Hampton's sounds like one of the safest to do it in. There are no guns there. Lots of rental and investment properties that cater to tourist. Which like I said before makes me expect a rise in the stock of private security companies. I think it would be a good investment. The way things look to me now, Trump is looking like he's going to lose and dems are about to make police protection as accessible to people living in poor neighborhoods as is getting a good education. The people with money of course will still have access to security and good educations.
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I dont think it matters who loses. Private police security like the three counsel members from the Twins city is where the security game. $4500 a day to protect three people. That is good money.
 
tenacious said:
I think a crowd like that comes marching through your neighborhood, and your kids are peeking out the window calling out to their mom about being afraid you won't be sleeping. Guns or not.

That said, if I was going to go carrying a pitchfork into someone else's neighborhood trying to scare people, the Hampton's sounds like one of the safest to do it in. There are no guns there. Lots of rental and investment properties that cater to tourist. Which like I said before makes me expect a rise in the stock of private security companies. I think it would be a good investment. The way things look to me now, Trump is looking like he's going to lose and dems are about to make police protection as accessible to people living in poor neighborhoods as is getting a good education. The people with money of course will still have access to security and good educations.
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Everyone on my street is armed.
Everyone has dogs and cameras.
Protesters are always welcome to move through on the sidewalk.
(just dont pitch a tent or fuck anything up, and keep the street open for cars)

btw, dont be so sure those libs in the hamptons aren't pack'n.
 
tenacious said:
I don't disagree with your aim. Just as someone whose has spent most of his adult life living in cities run by democrats, I'm losing faith in their ability to deliver the goods when it comes to reform. At seems like a lot of the time "making things better" don't end up as promised.

The democrats have become so beholden to political correctness, that they can't deliver. That's just my read on it.
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Ditto ditto ditto!!!
 
messy said:
Oh I see. The reference to "not just women" isn't referring to biology, it's referring to how queers, etc. choose to identify. It does get confusing sometime! But that's ok with me.
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It states...not just women but EVERYONE who can get pregnant.

How idiotic is that? Anyone you know besides women who can get pregnant?
 
Ellejustus said:
I dont think it matters who loses. Private police security like the three counsel members from the Twins city is where the security game. $4500 a day to protect three people. That is good money.
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I think we need to address personal security, especially in this state.
If cops are going to be defunded, which I am not completely against, the citizenry needs to regain the full force of the second amendment, and we need to have a ballot measure that gives far more latitude in protecting one's home and property, and let the people vote on it.

If criminals know they cant get away with looting, assaulting or killing people without getting shot, we wont need as many police.
Problem is, right now the criminal has less to fear from the government than a lawful citizen defending his own home.
 
Desert Hound said:
It states...not just women but EVERYONE who can get pregnant.

How idiotic is that? Anyone you know besides women who can get pregnant?
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My post tried to point out that biological women who refer to themselves as “men” or “queer” are therefore not “women” and yet, they can get pregnant.
I know it’s very confusing but I think that’s what it means.
 
messy said:
My post tried to point out that biological women who refer to themselves as “men” or “queer” are therefore not “women” and yet, they can get pregnant.
I know it’s very confusing but I think that’s what it means.
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So you are talking about people pretending to be something they are not. The ones that want us to pretend they are what they are not as well. Right?
 
Desert Hound said:
It states...not just women but EVERYONE who can get pregnant.

How idiotic is that? Anyone you know besides women who can get pregnant?
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I don't know. You tell me your name if bob and I'll call you bob. You tell me to call you jill I'll call you jill.
This gender thing doesn't bother me. If a man or woman peeks under the stall at my wanker... they are going to get kicked. Same as it ever was.

Just seems like we can have respect and still be decent to people while at the same time trusting them to behave responsibly. It has worked in the past in fact.
 
Desert Hound said:
So you are talking about people pretending to be something they are not. The ones that want us to pretend they are what they are not as well. Right?
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I’m just trying to help you decipher your post about people getting pregnant who aren’t women.
It appears that I did help you.
I don’t want to debate the issue of whether someone who is biologically female can reasonably claim that they are not a woman.
I do, however, support their right to do so.
 
tenacious said:
I don't know. You tell me your name if bob and I'll call you bob. You tell me to call you jill I'll call you jill.
This gender thing doesn't bother me. If a man or woman peeks under the stall at my wanker... they are going to get kicked. Same as it ever was.

Just seems like we can have respect and still be decent to people while at the same time trusting them to behave responsibly. It has worked in the past in fact.
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Except when a man wearing lipstick and a dress follows my little girl into the bathroom at Target. Someone is leaving on HIS own or with my assistance.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Everyone on my street is armed.
Everyone has dogs and cameras.
Protesters are always welcome to move through on the sidewalk.
(just dont pitch a tent or fuck anything up, and keep the street open for cars)

btw, dont be so sure those libs in the hamptons aren't pack'n.
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I don't know. In California I agree a lot of people have furs and guns... that they don't talk about.
But here in the Northeast they are more European. People don't own guns and the laws really punish you if they catch you breaking the rules. With NY liability laws you're not going to leave any guns at a rental property that's for sure. And you can't bring any guns home to the city. There just aren't many guns.
 
tenacious said:
I don't know. You tell me your name if bob and I'll call you bob. You tell me to call you jill I'll call you jill.
This gender thing doesn't bother me. If a man or woman peeks under the stall at my wanker... they are going to get kicked. Same as it ever was.

Just seems like we can have respect and still be decent to people while at the same time trusting them to behave responsibly. It has worked in the past in fact.
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Basically what you said.
But you have people who are scared of those who are different (aren’t there a bunch of Twilight Zone episodes about that?) and you also have people such as “Outlaw” whose pseudo-macho personae hide their deep insecurities about their own sexuality...and the hatred kicks in.
 
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