2020...

I think it's clear that The President has shown stable and effective leadership during this crisis, ensuring that his re-election won't be an issue.
By that I mean his refusal to acknowledge its severity early on and his careening to urging a re-opening too early. Will work great for him in November.
You forgot to include his calm and coherent daily press briefings.
 
It's actually the consumer who drives the economy, not the wealthy. It's simple math.

If you are the wealthy owner of a Walmart, for example, and you get a huge tax break but your consumers don't so they don't have enough money to shop at your store. Your logic says that the wealthy owner of the Walmart will hire more employees due to the mere fact he/she got a tax break. But no one is shopping at your store, so why would you hire more employees to man an empty store? The answer is that you wouldn't.

How many tubes of toothpaste does the top 1% percent purchase versus the other 99%? How many automobiles? How many meals out at a restaurant? How many home improvement supplies? How many computers? How many items of clothing?

The more money the masses have the better off the whole economy does. Henry Ford knew this and so paid his workers an unheard of wage of $5 a day, double the average factory worker pay at the time. He knew higher wages meant those same workers could afford to purchase a car for themselves. His business exploded after that, making profit hand over fist, far more than he would have made had he kept wages down.

Simple math.

If you don't have enough money to shop at Wal Mart, you have bigger problems than tax breaks. I'm saying Wal Mart sticks their neck out by opening stores everywhere and making everyday goods cheaper than what others charge for those same goods. They can do that because of buying power due to a high volume of product... due to a high volume of stores. Or, they offer cheaper alternatives so a guy can buy bathroom rugs for $6 because he can't pay $10 at Bed, Bath & Beyond. Do you honestly think giving the masses more money will somehow prevent them from living paycheck to paycheck? Really?

Your idea is NOT to make the masses wealthier. Your idea to take money from the wealthy and give more to the masses in an assumption that the economy will prosper. In reality, there would be fewer doctors now... fewer venture capitalists investing money in things that offer a lesser return... fewer people investing in advanced education knowing there is no salary commensurate with the investment. What is the incentive to be the best if we're all more equal due to your constraints? You prefer socialism. Where does that work? Where has it ever worked? If Henry Ford cornered the market, why are there so many other car companies equally as strong or stronger?
 
Who are "demotards"?

Pelosi... Schiff... Biden... Sanders and all the welfare rats that support them. All the morons that think these individuals aren't getting wealthy off the American taxpayer and actually BELIEVE they care about anything other than their careers and retirement accounts.
 
So why aren't you angry at Trump for all those bank loans he never paid back??

I don't know anything about Trump's finances and don't pretend or care to. I do know his detractors cry about how he doesn't pay contractors, etc. Guess what... I've refused to pay contractors, too, if the work is shitty or they try to hit me for overages or upcharges because they underbid the job to begin with. Many contractors are whores... so it doesn't surprise me a bit that some don't get paid or wind up in litigation.
 
It's actually the consumer who drives the economy, not the wealthy. It's simple math.

If you are the wealthy owner of a Walmart, for example, and you get a huge tax break but your consumers don't so they don't have enough money to shop at your store. Your logic says that the wealthy owner of the Walmart will hire more employees due to the mere fact he/she got a tax break. But no one is shopping at your store, so why would you hire more employees to man an empty store? The answer is that you wouldn't.

How many tubes of toothpaste does the top 1% percent purchase versus the other 99%? How many automobiles? How many meals out at a restaurant? How many home improvement supplies? How many computers? How many items of clothing?

The more money the masses have the better off the whole economy does. Henry Ford knew this and so paid his workers an unheard of wage of $5 a day, double the average factory worker pay at the time. He knew higher wages meant those same workers could afford to purchase a car for themselves. His business exploded after that, making profit hand over fist, far more than he would have made had he kept wages down.

Simple math.
As Mark Cuban said the old trickle down/top down theory never worked. Bottom up is how an economy blooms.
 
I think it's clear that The President has shown stable and effective leadership during this crisis, ensuring that his re-election won't be an issue.
By that I mean his refusal to acknowledge its severity early on and his careening to urging a re-opening too early. Will work great for him in November.

The democrats ensured his re-elected my offering the American voter a fake Native American, gay mayor that can't run a small city, a socialist and another lifelong politician that can't remember what year it is. Trump doesn't have to do anything to get a 2nd term.
 
You forgot to include his calm and coherent daily press briefings.

You can always turn the channel... or tear it up like Pelosi did. Classy move, by the way.

Every single day I turn off Gavin Newsom because I can't stand to hear the "ah... we're addressing... ah... it in... ah... real time... ah." Simple fix.
 
The democrats ensured his re-elected my offering the American voter a fake Native American, gay mayor that can't run a small city, a socialist and another lifelong politician that can't remember what year it is. Trump doesn't have to do anything to get a 2nd term.
Word.
 
You can always turn the channel... or tear it up like Pelosi did. Classy move, by the way.

Every single day I turn off Gavin Newsom because I can't stand to hear the "ah... we're addressing... ah... it in... ah... real time... ah." Simple fix.
Almost as bad as Obama off prompter.
 
One thing we know for sure...when this thing is over and thanks to the right and its followers, the rich will definitely get a lot richer. Just like '09.


You got a problem with someone making money.....

" Messy " " Messy " your financial soapbox standing is dwindling....take a deep breath and wipe your chin.

 
I don't know anything about Trump's finances and don't pretend or care to. I do know his detractors cry about how he doesn't pay contractors, etc. Guess what... I've refused to pay contractors, too, if the work is shitty or they try to hit me for overages or upcharges because they underbid the job to begin with. Many contractors are whores... so it doesn't surprise me a bit that some don't get paid or wind up in litigation.

Trump has declared bankruptcy 6 times which is all a part of the public record. But you “don’t know anything or care anything” about that. Ok, so why make sweeping judgements about everyone else who you know even less about?

Your OWN words were: “They give money to people who can pay it back with interest. Why would you give it to people who are unable to do that? This isn't charity.”

When I point out that Trump himself has stiffed his creditors 6x you say you don’t care. So you’re a hypocrite, plain and simple.
 
Almost as bad as Obama off prompter.
LOL, sure. Sort of like the time Obama went to the GOP retreat and answered their questions for 90 minutes. Obama ate their lunch. In fact Obama made them look so bad that FOX news cut away early and the GOP admitted it was a mistake to broadcast it.

One of my favorite exchanges:
 
LOL, sure. Sort of like the time Obama went to the GOP retreat and answered their questions for 90 minutes. Obama ate their lunch. In fact Obama made them look so bad that FOX news cut away early and the GOP admitted it was a mistake to broadcast it.

One of my favorite exchanges:
OMG could you imagine an Obama Trump election?
 
Trump has declared bankruptcy 6 times which is all a part of the public record. But you “don’t know anything or care anything” about that. Ok, so why make sweeping judgements about everyone else who you know even less about?

Your OWN words were: “They give money to people who can pay it back with interest. Why would you give it to people who are unable to do that? This isn't charity.”

When I point out that Trump himself has stiffed his creditors 6x you say you don’t care. So you’re a hypocrite, plain and simple.

Okay, and what's your point? That someone in business for nearly 5 decades, and multiple businesses, has bankruptcies? So what? And who else am I making "sweeping judgments" about? You asked why banks give or don't give people money. That's their option, is it not? Should THEY not have the ability to decide whether he is or isn't a risk and at what terms? That's not your bitch to have. Their choice to consider him a good risk doesn't make me a hypocrite. And unless you have nothing better to do, and I know you don't, the rest of us don't know all the intricacies of his BKs. How many times do Silicon Valley giants lose everything... only to receive more VC and eventually become billionaires? Stop your whining.
 
Why do you assume everyone is asking for help and/or bailouts? I received money last week and never asked for it. I earn 6 figures and never thought I was eligible for it. Nor do I want or need it, MAP, but it showed up anyway. So you're assuming 'corporate welfare' is needed or desired.

What corporate greed are you talking about? You tell me who can't go a month without a check. I'm not one of them but they're all over, aren't they?


Let's see. Most of these corporations can't go a month without revenue. Most of these business owners who have to lay off workers clearly can't go without a check. You talk about having a check show up. That's really funny because my wife and I get jack shit. She actually employs people who she pays six figures to and they still get their checks regardless of what is going on. Businesses that don't have the cash to survive shouldn't. Businesses like Ruth's Chris and Shake Shack that applied for corporate welfare even though they have cash and access to credit should be ashamed especially when Shake Shack already was in trouble and laid workers off before any bailout deal was reached. But I digress.

You are a person that clearly shows personal responsibility. So am I. Lot's of corporations don't take responsiblity and that includes the banks, the airlines, restaurants and more. You are too smart to continue to ignore what is going on. We just printed $3 trilion.... We are well into a recession that was predicted years ago when Trump took office and it just arrived a few quarters early due to his steady and consistent mismanagement of the economy. Let's hope that the economic contagion doesn't continue to spread because white collar layoffs are already happening.

Good luck to you and your player.
 
I don't handle Trump's finances but I know he employs a lot of people.



He employs at least 1500 less now. Again my wife hasn't furloughed or laid off one employee and their checks are still good. It's even a minority owned business. But my wife has an MBA in finance. Trump got C's at a school his pops helped get him into.
 
Okay, and what's your point? That someone in business for nearly 5 decades, and multiple businesses, has bankruptcies? So what? And who else am I making "sweeping judgments" about? You asked why banks give or don't give people money. That's their option, is it not? Should THEY not have the ability to decide whether he is or isn't a risk and at what terms? That's not your bitch to have. Their choice to consider him a good risk doesn't make me a hypocrite. And unless you have nothing better to do, and I know you don't, the rest of us don't know all the intricacies of his BKs. How many times do Silicon Valley giants lose everything... only to receive more VC and eventually become billionaires? Stop your whining.


And now you are saying bankruptcies are okay? Everyone doesn't file for bankruptcy. I haven't. Have you? Not everyone has had a foreclosure or a forebearance either. Not everyone skipped their mortgage or car payments. I bet Trump did.....
 
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