2020 Women's D1 Soccer Talk!!!! EXTENDED TO SPRING '21!!!!

MSK357 said:
Well, it looks like although you agree with each other, you are also contradicting each other. EOTL says european countries deaths occured before they had any idea what was happening, yet their info on how COVID reacts to children is still same as over here. Even in china, their studies showed that there is minimal risk to children, especially outdoors. There is enough data and scientific information within our own country to show the minimal risk to children, especially healthy children. So if you want to go against the science AND stats, Go ahead and keep your children at home. My position on this has changed anyway. I now want all of you to keep your children at home. My kids on the other hand will continue to go out, train, and scrimmage. Even though my "goats" don't need an advantage, ill take the 5+ months of continued training while others are doing zoom and socially distancing. But I have a strong feeling your kids are doing the same, hypocrites.
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What’s the over/under for today? 1200? 1400?
 
UNC moved to all online after about 120 cases showed up as positive. Not sure if this means they will shut down sports or not. Some are still allowed to be on campus but online classes so not sure how that works for sports
 
MSK357 said:
You do know hundreds of people under 24 die every year from the seasonal flu right? If we go by statistics for kids under 24, the flu is more dangerous than COVID. By your logic, we've been risking kids lives from the flu every flu season.

Estimated Flu-Related Illnesses, Medical visits, Hospitalizations, and Deaths in the United States — 2018–2019 Flu Season | CDC

CDC calculates estimates of disease burden in the United States using surveillance data and modeling to adjust for sources of under-detection. Burden estimates for the 2018-2019 season found here.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov
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Oh goodness now it seems that the insane assylum has let patients out to discuss public health.

Hey do what you want to do with your kids. I'm curious as to how many kids under 24 that were athletes died last year from the flu and how many had measurable heart and lung damage from the flu.

This is why this isn't going to end anytime soon. Flatearthers, anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorist are comfortable putting forward all of their tripe. I'm glad that my kid already has her degree and college career under her belt. Good luck to you and your player.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Oh goodness now it seems that the insane assylum has let patients out to discuss public health.

Hey do what you want to do with your kids. I'm curious as to how many kids under 24 that were athletes died last year from the flu and how many had measurable heart and lung damage from the flu.

This is why this isn't going to end anytime soon. Flatearthers, anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorist are comfortable putting forward all of their tripe. I'm glad that my kid already has her degree and college career under her belt. Good luck to you and your player.
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Didnt know stats counted as flat earthers and anti vaxxers. Science also says low risk for children. You must be anti science and stats lol.
 
MakeAPlay said:
If you believe that. Continue to look clownish arguing against the facts. I am not so desperate to get my kid into college that I would risk her life.
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I think you are the one ignoring facts. I posted statistics from CDC, now here's a recent article from the Mayo Clinic.

www.mayoclinic.org

How COVID-19 affects babies and children

Know the symptoms of COVID-19 in children, what to do if your child appears sick and how to keep your family healthy.
www.mayoclinic.org www.mayoclinic.org

But you must think this is fake news. My sources must not be reputable enough for you. Please post something from Buzzfeed, you might change my mind lol.
 
MSK357 said:
Well, it looks like although you agree with each other, you are also contradicting each other. EOTL says european countries deaths occured before they had any idea what was happening, yet their info on how COVID reacts to children is still same as over here. Even in china, their studies showed that there is minimal risk to children, especially outdoors. There is enough data and scientific information within our own country to show the minimal risk to children, especially healthy children. So if you want to go against the science AND stats, Go ahead and keep your children at home. My position on this has changed anyway. I now want all of you to keep your children at home. My kids on the other hand will continue to go out, train, and scrimmage. Even though my "goats" don't need an advantage, ill take the 5+ months of continued training while others are doing zoom and socially distancing. But I have a strong feeling your kids are doing the same, hypocrites.
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I'm a hypocrite why exactly? Because I am following the guidance of my city's public health department (and my county's and our state's)? Or because I'm worried about what 5 months of missed training might mean for their future so I'm either gaming the system (trying to encourage others to stay home so my kids can train and there's my hypocrisy) or putting them behind? I'm not too worried about it - if my HS kids are good enough to play at the higher levels, a year off like everyone will have (more or less) is not going to matter much, just like their older sister was able to manage an injury and miss some time and have her best years on the other side. If they are not good enough, I'm sorry that they are losing this time b/c they are in their last years playing their favorite sport competitively but, in the end, the time off won't be what made them unable to move to the next level.

There is not enough data out there to "go with" or "go against" the science on this. The samples are small, there are variables that interfere, there is not a huge amount of time to gauge what's really happening, it is novel disease. Because of so many unknowns, I'm comfortable with a cautious approach - a cautious approach may prove to be unnecessary but we have some contrary groups out there that will prove the point one way or another. Soon enough we will be able to look at Mississippi's outbreak of cases in schools, at Notre Dame's outbreak, and outbreak after outbreak that are certain to happen in areas were schools (K-12 and colleges) are open and they are treating this either as a hoax or as low risk b/c the young people tend to be OK. Soon enough, we will have a larger sample of infected young people and shortly after that, we will understand the death rates a bit more. Basically, governors and college presidents have decided to prove the case with their students . . . for their sake (and because I know people in the test cohort), I really hope you are right and what we see in a month or two are what you expect (low death rates and low post-illness health impact). I'm OK with there being no youth and college soccer seasons until we know more. And I'm OK following my city's guidance which allows them to be doing some things but restricts others.
 
dk_b said:
I'm a hypocrite why exactly? Because I am following the guidance of my city's public health department (and my county's and our state's)? Or because I'm worried about what 5 months of missed training might mean for their future so I'm either gaming the system (trying to encourage others to stay home so my kids can train and there's my hypocrisy) or putting them behind? I'm not too worried about it - if my HS kids are good enough to play at the higher levels, a year off like everyone will have (more or less) is not going to matter much, just like their older sister was able to manage an injury and miss some time and have her best years on the other side. If they are not good enough, I'm sorry that they are losing this time b/c they are in their last years playing their favorite sport competitively but, in the end, the time off won't be what made them unable to move to the next level.

There is not enough data out there to "go with" or "go against" the science on this. The samples are small, there are variables that interfere, there is not a huge amount of time to gauge what's really happening, it is novel disease. Because of so many unknowns, I'm comfortable with a cautious approach - a cautious approach may prove to be unnecessary but we have some contrary groups out there that will prove the point one way or another. Soon enough we will be able to look at Mississippi's outbreak of cases in schools, at Notre Dame's outbreak, and outbreak after outbreak that are certain to happen in areas were schools (K-12 and colleges) are open and they are treating this either as a hoax or as low risk b/c the young people tend to be OK. Soon enough, we will have a larger sample of infected young people and shortly after that, we will understand the death rates a bit more. Basically, governors and college presidents have decided to prove the case with their students . . . for their sake (and because I know people in the test cohort), I really hope you are right and what we see in a month or two are what you expect (low death rates and low post-illness health impact). I'm OK with there being no youth and college soccer seasons until we know more. And I'm OK following my city's guidance which allows them to be doing some things but restricts others.
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As long as you are consistent I have no issue with you. There are people on here however that say we should listen to the guidance and stay locked down but have freely admitted their kids go out and scrimmage and get private/group training. Those are hypocrites.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Oh goodness now it seems that the insane assylum has let patients out to discuss public health.

Hey do what you want to do with your kids. I'm curious as to how many kids under 24 that were athletes died last year from the flu and how many had measurable heart and lung damage from the flu.

This is why this isn't going to end anytime soon. Flatearthers, anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorist are comfortable putting forward all of their tripe. I'm glad that my kid already has her degree and college career under her belt. Good luck to you and your player.
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I'm so happy for you Maps. You both got to play sports and so did I. My best friend's son is Sr this year and his sports life is all over. This was going to be his big year as a senior. He worked his ass off so he could be ready but now cant because no sports in Cali. I get no college sports, but the youth being denied is flat out wrong where I come from. BTW, why some of the studs leaving NWSL?
 
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Ellejustus said:
BTW, why some of the studs leaving NWSL?
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Because the US doesn't really have things under control at the moment and Europe has replaced the US as the place to be for woso. The leagues in Europe are getting better and better. Longer season. European championship. Different style of play. Even the second tier teams are attracting good NT players.
 
MSK357 said:
As long as you are consistent I have no issue with you. There are people on here however that say we should listen to the guidance and stay locked down but have freely admitted their kids go out and scrimmage and get private/group training. Those are hypocrites.
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I think you’re making that up. The real hypocrites are the ones who are letting their kids violate the local ordinances - unless they want 1000+ people to die every day of course.
 
Desert Hound said:
I know you have trouble reading.
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It is bad enough that you and a few others keep spreading medical misinformation on the site.

On top of it, you insist on insulting those who disagree with you.

If people follow your advice ( eat out, go to bars, hang out with friends, avoid masks, etc. ), more people will get sick. Period. This is, by now, settled science and not up for debate.

I suppose you have some clever insult to prove how right you are. I will assume you make some witty reference to basements, fear, scaredness, or Karen.

If you have evidence that going out for beers Indoors does not spread the virus, please run it past an actual epidemiologist before spreading such lies here.
 
dad4 said:
It is bad enough that you and a few others keep spreading medical misinformation on the site.

On top of it, you insist on insulting those who disagree with you.

If people follow your advice ( eat out, go to bars, hang out with friends, avoid masks, etc. ), more people will get sick. Period. This is, by now, settled science and not up for debate.

I suppose you have some clever insult to prove how right you are. I will assume you make some witty reference to basements, fear, scaredness, or Karen.

If you have evidence that going out for beers Indoors does not spread the virus, please run it past an actual epidemiologist before spreading such lies here.
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Dad, take it off topic bro. No more D1 sports in Cali for a long time.
 
dad4 said:
Anger is not a good friend.

Looking forward to burgers in the stands again. Maybe in spring.
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No, Mr Anger is not a good friend. I was told by a good friend whose been married for over 50 years not to go to bed angry. Well, it's very hard for me to live that out each night but I'm sure trying. Also, one needs to understand anger levels one through 10. Basically anger 1-4 is where one should be able to handle things by himself. For example, my wife's dog coco has the runs again. She crapped on my sandals by the door. I went to go take the trash out like a good dad and I steeped in dog sh*t, all wet too. Coco is my wife's best friend and is soon to be 15 years old. I want to her put down now as do my kids, but my wife says as long as she can walk she stays alive. So I got a little pissed and said some things under my breath and then the wife goes, "I heard that." My son looks at me like I'm a weak man for putting up with three dogs and how I let my wife have a say on things, especially when one puts down their personal pooch.
Anger 4-6 is when you have to leave because you might do something stupid in your anger. Anger 7-8 cops are usually called and 9-10 your in prison for a long time. It's my job to stay 1-4. I've had a 5 a few times and nothing higher then a 5.
 
Ellejustus said:
No, Mr Anger is not a good friend. I was told by a good friend whose been married for over 50 years not to go to bed angry. Well, it's very hard for me to live that out each night but I'm sure trying. Also, one needs to understand anger levels one through 10. Basically anger 1-4 is where one should be able to handle things by himself. For example, my wife's dog coco has the runs again. She crapped on my sandals by the door. I went to go take the trash out like a good dad and I steeped in dog sh*t, all wet too. Coco is my wife's best friend and is soon to be 15 years old. I want to her put down now as do my kids, but my wife says as long as she can walk she stays alive. So I got a little pissed and said some things under my breath and then the wife goes, "I heard that." My son looks at me like I'm a weak man for putting up with three dogs and how I let my wife have a say on things, especially when one puts down their personal pooch.
Anger 4-6 is when you have to leave because you might do something stupid in your anger. Anger 7-8 cops are usually called and 9-10 your in prison for a long time. It's my job to stay 1-4. I've had a 5 a few times and nothing higher then a 5.
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I may be in the minority, but the coco the dog story is now my favorite.
 
Woobie06 said:
I may be in the minority, but the coco the dog story is now my favorite.
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Well, my wife brought Coco home from being abused at a puppy mill and was left to die. True story. She's a Yorkiepoo. I already had three boxers before Coco was brought home from the shelter. My wife just brought it home and said she needed a home and that was that. My dd cat Bob is legend in the cat world Woobie. Bob was a stud and ran the dogs and was 100% in charge. Never seen anything like it. Boxers were wimps with Bob.
 
EOTL said:
I think you’re making that up. The real hypocrites are the ones who are letting their kids violate the local ordinances - unless they want 1000+ people to die every day of course.
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Talk to Messy and his kid, Dad4 was asking about out of state tournaments earlier. lol.
 
dad4 said:
It is bad enough that you and a few others keep spreading medical misinformation on the site.
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Medical misinformation? Showing CDC stats is medical misinformation?

Pointing out that 24 and under have virtually zero risk? Look at the data. That is not medical misinformation.
 
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