How’s the 2024-2025 season going?

Whether on purpose or not, the YNT is slowly walking away from their focus on positional profiles and starting to focus a bit more on players who are multi position capable, better rounded. Several EU clubs and WPSL teams are trending in the same direction with scouting and selections as well.

The scouts have told the DOCs for years that they could usually make 4 YNT teams per age group.
Problem was they would only bring 40-50 kids prior to the final U17WC rosters.
With the size of the US the should have 70-100 in camp before their final U17WC roster is set.
The 08s and 09s might see a rush to bring in more and more kids. The 08s have U17WC in 6mo and they still bringing in new kids by the handful.
70-100 players per age group sounds about right for the depth we have in this country. A larger, long-term player pool would allow the team to form organically, ensuring the best talent naturally rises to the top just like cream. One can argue that the current approach of working with only a limited amount of kids narrows the field too soon and risks missing late bloomers and top end potential.

The reality is, that yes the U.S. has the talent to form 4 competitive YNTs per age group, no question about that. The challenge? Maybe it's the Logistics and possibly funding these large projects. But there's a simple solution why not host one possibly two national ID camps per year, bringing in the top 80-100 players for extended evaluation. I bet parents would cover flights and hotels. Why would this work? Because the experience alone to train and compete with the best in the country for a chance to represent the U.S. is invaluable to many. Many families would gladly invest in this opportunity for their kids. They already invest in showcases. tournaments, ODP etc...you can pick and chose what you invest your money in.

Smaller regional camps can still happen, but the big national camps should be the backbone of the system. Over three years, leading up to the U17 World Cup, this model would create a fluid, dynamic, and merit based roster selection process. You track player development holistically through puberty, growth spurts, and athletic maturity rather than risking to make premature selections based on early physical dominance.

By the time these players reach U17, the team wouldn’t just be a collection of the best at 14 but it would be the most complete, battle tested, and well developed squad possible. This system would maximize the US talent pipeline and finally close the gap on top global programs. It's not about just finding the best players now but about developing the best national team for the future.
 
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Don Johnson cut off daughter from 'family payroll' when she refused to go to college. Dakota Johnson is the daughter of Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith.


Typical Elite parent's way to control their children. The elites bought youth soccer folks for this very reason. It's a way for them to use their money to get thier kids what they want for Susie and Tommy. Docs know this more than anyone, trust me. This is the youth soccer business in a nutshell. The poor and middle class is now priced out of elite travel soccer for the rich, so their child does what is told by dad or else. I experienced and witnessed the bribes and blackmail put on these poor children controlled by mommy & daddy.
 
70-100 players per age group sounds about right for the depth we have in this country. A larger, long-term player pool would allow the team to form organically, ensuring the best talent naturally rises to the top just like cream. One can argue that the current approach of working with only a limited amount of kids narrows the field too soon and risks missing late bloomers and top end potential.

The reality is, that yes the U.S. has the talent to form 4 competitive YNTs per age group, no question about that. The challenge? Maybe it's the Logistics and possibly funding these large projects. But there's a simple solution why not host one possibly two national ID camps per year, bringing in the top 80-100 players for extended evaluation. I bet parents would cover flights and hotels. Why would this work? Because the experience alone to train and compete with the best in the country for a chance to represent the U.S. is invaluable to many. Many families would gladly invest in this opportunity for their kids. They already invest in showcases. tournaments, ODP etc...you can pick and chose what you invest your money in.

Smaller regional camps can still happen, but the big national camps should be the backbone of the system. Over three years, leading up to the U17 World Cup, this model would create a fluid, dynamic, and merit based roster selection process. You track player development holistically through puberty, growth spurts, and athletic maturity rather than risking to make premature selections based on early physical dominance.

By the time these players reach U17, the team wouldn’t just be a collection of the best at 14 but it would be the most complete, battle tested, and well developed squad possible. This system would maximize the US talent pipeline and finally close the gap on top global programs. It's not about just finding the best players now but about developing the best national team for the future.

The smart ones don't invest anything into California's ODP 🤣

I watched the U15 game against Canada and with how good this 2010 group is - US Soccer is behind. @Luis Andres says they figured out the best forwards for the age group - ill disagree. If you cant get the ball off the foot for the open player making a run since hero balls prioritized - player evaluation is a failure. Ill take Canadas 2010's over the product we have now. They can play possession and figured out its best to roster technical soccer players. Speeds great but with out fundamentals its a waste. The average goal conversation rate for the NWSL's 9.9% - MLS 9.5% in retrospect FIFA converts at 15%. That's 1-2 extra passes to the open player a game. Is it that hard to see why and how the US style of play is falling behind the world? s-e-l-f-I-s-h Play.

What really isn't being talked about and should be - the amount of games this 2010 age group has played. Injuries throughout the last 6 months -playing too many games/minutes is shocking for both the boys and girls.

Is the importance of rest that over looked?

Can US Soccer not govern a better youth system protecting their players from overzealous parents and coaches?

Why is player safety so disregarded? I mean come on. Why should any amateur at this level have back to back matches and play 80 minutes a crack? Is it that hard to implement a max work load to limit these knee injuries?

Why are ECNL players even allowed to play High School Soccer?!?!?

Why don't teams have unlimited substitutions till U17-U18?

Just like stated before - Making the USNT at 17-18 carries weight over 15 years old. @Luis Andres likes driving his sports cars bumping Ice Ice baby with the windows down so he should understand this - give me the base Ferrari 296 with low miles and maintenance records that's been taken care of for a long term ROI vs the fully loaded SF90 Spider that's gone over 100K miles in 5 years. Which Ferrari in another 5 years will still be on the road with fewer breakdowns and problems?

(Sorry for the Ferrari analogy. True middle class Soldiers like @crush understand the need to speak to the majority of the ECNL landscape to get a point across)
 
This thread is a live again… this is great. How has everyone been in SoCal? We finally made the move to Texas. I couldn’t handle California anymore.

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Texas rocks bro. The forum had thousands viewing this thread yesterday and out viewed, The View and Michelle Obama's first podcast yesterday. Congrats @Dominic. Let's stay on topic though fellas and keep politics over in The Kitchen, where it belongs🤣🤣🤣🤣 We don't want to trigger Mr. Jones today. The heat is on the cheaters. I got private detectives from the dark side trying to dig up darkness on crush. It's been crazy the last few days. Threats are real but I live another day. I am not suicidal either, just FYI. Hi EOTL:p:p:p:p:p
 
The smart ones don't invest anything into California's ODP 🤣

I watched the U15 game against Canada and with how good this 2010 group is - US Soccer is behind. @Luis Andres says they figured out the best forwards for the age group - ill disagree. If you cant get the ball off the foot for the open player making a run since hero balls prioritized - player evaluation is a failure. Ill take Canadas 2010's over the product we have now. They can play possession and figured out its best to roster technical soccer players. Speeds great but with out fundamentals its a waste. The average goal conversation rate for the NWSL's 9.9% - MLS 9.5% in retrospect FIFA converts at 15%. That's 1-2 extra passes to the open player a game. Is it that hard to see why and how the US style of play is falling behind the world? s-e-l-f-I-s-h Play.

What really isn't being talked about and should be - the amount of games this 2010 age group has played. Injuries throughout the last 6 months -playing too many games/minutes is shocking for both the boys and girls.

Is the importance of rest that over looked?

Can US Soccer not govern a better youth system protecting their players from overzealous parents and coaches?

Why is player safety so disregarded? I mean come on. Why should any amateur at this level have back to back matches and play 80 minutes a crack? Is it that hard to implement a max work load to limit these knee injuries?

Why are ECNL players even allowed to play High School Soccer?!?!?

Why don't teams have unlimited substitutions till U17-U18?

Just like stated before - Making the USNT at 17-18 carries weight over 15 years old. @Luis Andres likes driving his sports cars bumping Ice Ice baby with the windows down so he should understand this - give me the base Ferrari 296 with low miles and maintenance records that's been taken care of for a long term ROI vs the fully loaded SF90 Spider that's gone over 100K miles in 5 years. Which Ferrari in another 5 years will still be on the road with fewer breakdowns and problems?

(Sorry for the Ferrari analogy. True middle class Soldiers like @crush understand the need to speak to the majority of the ECNL landscape to get a point across)
I don't understand. What did you watch?
 
I don't understand. What did you watch?
-- U.S. Under-15 Women’s Youth National Team Match Report –
Match: United States U-15 Women's National Team vs. Canada U-15 Women’s National Team
Date: August 9, 2024
Competition: Concacaf Girls’ U-15 Championship
Venue: Proyecto Gol Ruta Nacional Secundaria – Field 3; Alajuela, Costa Rica
Kickoff: 9 a.m. local (11 a.m. ET)
Attendance: 200
Weather: 78, hot/sunny

Scoring Summary 1 2 F PK
USA 1 0 1 4
CAN 0 1 1 2
USA - Mak Whitham 35+1st minute
 
-- U.S. Under-15 Women’s Youth National Team Match Report –
Match: United States U-15 Women's National Team vs. Canada U-15 Women’s National Team
Date: August 9, 2024
Competition: Concacaf Girls’ U-15 Championship
Venue: Proyecto Gol Ruta Nacional Secundaria – Field 3; Alajuela, Costa Rica
Kickoff: 9 a.m. local (11 a.m. ET)
Attendance: 200
Weather: 78, hot/sunny

Scoring Summary 1 2 F PK
USA 1 0 1 4
CAN 0 1 1 2
USA - Mak Whitham 35+1st minute

Purposeful passing isn't a strength of that team. Some of the mids don't defend at all or run around aimlessly clogging up the half spaces. Defenders are still dribbling and losing the balls. That team hasn't transitioned out of the hero mentality.
This age group still has lots of players who have been sidelined by the YNT that would probably be a good shot in the arm for that team. They haven't brought in the numbers yet.

I've heard several differnt stories, but in the end M.W. first game in that tournament was against Canada. I heard from one of the scouts she flew down the day before that game which may imply Gotham wasn't releasing her before or she was committed to something until a ceratain date.
I think there is a second pro signing at that age group. Whether legit or not, its another pro team that has the power to release a player or say no. ECNL/GA DOCs would be excited to send players to camps and games. Pro teams, maybe not so much.
 
-- U.S. Under-15 Women’s Youth National Team Match Report –
Match: United States U-15 Women's National Team vs. Canada U-15 Women’s National Team
Date: August 9, 2024
Competition: Concacaf Girls’ U-15 Championship
Venue: Proyecto Gol Ruta Nacional Secundaria – Field 3; Alajuela, Costa Rica
Kickoff: 9 a.m. local (11 a.m. ET)
Attendance: 200
Weather: 78, hot/sunny

Scoring Summary 1 2 F PK
USA 1 0 1 4
CAN 0 1 1 2
USA - Mak Whitham 35+1st minute
Those are not our 2010's. Our 2010's will beat that team no problem. Let me clarify. I mean SoCal's 2010's selected by a non biased coaching team. Not the ridiculous US team they put together and say are the best 2010's in the nation.
 
Those are not our 2010's. Our 2010's will beat that team no problem. Let me clarify. I mean SoCal's 2010's selected by a non biased coaching team. Not the ridiculous US team they put together and say are the best 2010's in the nation.

Those aren't anybody's 2010s. The game against Canada was 2009s.

To the best of my knowledge, the 2010s don't have an official roster yet. Just different versions of the training camp roster.
 
Those aren't anybody's 2010s. The game against Canada was 2009s.

To the best of my knowledge, the 2010s don't have an official roster yet. Just different versions of the training camp roster.
Exactly. That's why I replied and said that. Read the posts from Lemmon Pepper Lou that I replied too implying the game they watched was 2010's. I also didn't say they were 2010's in my reply either. And also also the 2010 training camp roster they have been putting together over these years is whack and isn't even close to the best 2010's out there. US feels they have to use girls from all over the nation to put a team together and thats a mistake.
 
Exactly. That's why I replied and said that. Read the posts from Lemmon Pepper Lou that I replied too implying the game they watched was 2010's. I also didn't say they were 2010's in my reply either. And also also the 2010 training camp roster they have been putting together over these years is whack and isn't even close to the best 2010's out there. US feels they have to use girls from all over the nation to put a team together and thats a mistake.
Are you saying some girls from California are being overlooked ?
 

Don Johnson cut off daughter from 'family payroll' when she refused to go to college. Dakota Johnson is the daughter of Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith.


Typical Elite parent's way to control their children. The elites bought youth soccer folks for this very reason. It's a way for them to use their money to get thier kids what they want for Susie and Tommy. Docs know this more than anyone, trust me. This is the youth soccer business in a nutshell. The poor and middle class is now priced out of elite travel soccer for the rich, so their child does what is told by dad or else. I experienced and witnessed the bribes and blackmail put on these poor children controlled by mommy & daddy.
I generally agree with you, but there are a fair number on scholarship
 
I generally agree with you, but there are a fair number on scholarship
My point was only about parents controlling their kids and telling them they have to go to college or no family fund. I grew up with these families and I watched this on my pals. We were poor white trash, but I did get to grow up on the beach, so no complaints.
 
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