Interesting comments on the substitution rules allowing for players born in the back half of the year to get on the field.
Girls Development Academy
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Except Mal Pugh. I am glad he said what he did and even more happy that they aren't pushing these minor leagues onto the girls. I don't want this training Into baseball where they graduate high school and spend two years at a minor league or JC to "live the dream".
MakeAPlay
DA
I agree. Mal Pugh is a purple unicorn. The funny thing is my player thinks that Fleming is a tougher player to mark and she chose to remain in school even though her national team coach wants her to go pro too.
outside!
DA
Great article. I have a similar feeling about substitutions in youth soccer as Anson but had not realized the effect it has on minimizing the birth month anomaly. I probably disagree with him however about substitutions in the college game. Unlimited substitutions in the college game allow his 90 minute high pressure style of play which tends to be very direct. I believe this style of play at the college level does not prepare players for the international game. College players are adults. While I agree that college soccer is currently is the best soccer development option for most 18-22 year old women, that will decrease over time as women's professional leagues around the world get larger and play by FIFA rules. NCAA soccer and FIFA soccer are two different games.
I also found it interesting that he says the pool of "very good" soccer players is larger than in the past.
NoGoal
DA
The pool of very good soccer players is larger purely by the fact there are more and more girls playing club soccer.
He also mentioned that he thinks coaching has gotten better.
Maybe not to the Euro or South America level, but I bet 15-20 years ago, a female soccer player became "good" by genetics and a bit of luck. Speed, aggressiveness and strength. I bet that most 15 year old girls today have more soccer "Skill" than many USWNT players had in 1999.
Coaching isn't perfect and there are some bad ones out there. But most coach are actually teaching a bit of soccer/futbol these days around the US.
outside!
DA
Which would have been a good reason for ECNL to admit more clubs, but they missed that boat and now we are stuck with two competing, closed systems.
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Bananacorner
SILVER ELITE
May have posted this in the wrong thread, sorry for the duplicate:
Looks like for girls are required to have 32 players minimum for the combined age group teams (similar to boys DA), but for separate age groupings, it is unclear. Is this saying that for U14 and U15 you need to have 32 minimum on each team? Or 32 between U15 and U14? Does that mean you could have 13 players on U14 and 19 players on U15 and you would meet the requirement?
Rosters need to meet the minimum by August 18th at 5:00 pm CST. No DPs allowed until October 2nd.
https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/6pblyk29e2y8gup4qns1nm6i2yv2yilf
Looks like for girls are required to have 32 players minimum for the combined age group teams (similar to boys DA), but for separate age groupings, it is unclear. Is this saying that for U14 and U15 you need to have 32 minimum on each team? Or 32 between U15 and U14? Does that mean you could have 13 players on U14 and 19 players on U15 and you would meet the requirement?
Rosters need to meet the minimum by August 18th at 5:00 pm CST. No DPs allowed until October 2nd.
https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/6pblyk29e2y8gup4qns1nm6i2yv2yilf
Desert Hound
DA
What are the substitution rules for Girls DA?
I came across this in the girls da application. What does for example seven subs across three opportunities mean?
Substitution rules: no re
-entry; seven substitutions across three “opportunities” for U
-14/15;
five substitutions across three “opportunities” for U
-16/17 and U-
18/19
I came across this in the girls da application. What does for example seven subs across three opportunities mean?
Substitution rules: no re
-entry; seven substitutions across three “opportunities” for U
-14/15;
five substitutions across three “opportunities” for U
-16/17 and U-
18/19
Eagle33
PREMIER
The numbers you see is for 2 teams combined
Still awaiting final word. There was discussion about allowing re-entry into a game (just not in the same half) for the u14's
Not From Around Here
BRONZE
It was explained to me that if you plan to use 7 subs, you have to do it in pairs/groups rather than subbing 1 girl each at 7 different times. Instead of opportunities, I heard the term "moments." So a coach can not disrupt the flow of the game with 7 separate substitution "moments." It was not clear to me if halftime counted as a "moment."
One of the functions of league administrators seems to be to make up rules that inhibit kids from playing.
younothat
PREMIER
For USSDA 11v11; 3 substitution times (moments) plus half time, 7 players can be substituted total during those (3) times + half time. Half time is not considered a moment, game is not moving.
A change like ECNL does with reentry in another half would help but I kind of doubt you will see that in 11v11 in DA.
Dos Equis
GOLD
No re-entry is the controversial rule, for both development and safety. On development, there are valid arguments on both sides. But from a safety standpoint, while it might seem a cautious approach (injured kids cannot return), in practice the opposite is more likely (kids who get knocked around hide the pain lest their day end with a substitution). At 13-16 years old, not something to encourage. I have known too many "tough" soccer players who were always playing through the pain, particularly on the girls side, whose bodies start breaking down between ages 17-21.
MakeAPlay
DA
@Dos Equis I have to say that I agree with you 100%. I swear that we used to be on opposite sides of the argument on the old forum back in the old SCDSL/CSL split days. I still can't figure out if it was my opinion that changed or yours? Or maybe I just imagined it all.
The Driver
PREMIER
Shame on coaches who don't
Limited subs will prevent more injuries from happening IMO. Recovery is key to development unless you are a Unicorn. So now coaches will have to rest players maybe circle key games and rest groups of Unicorns at a time. Unless you're a purple Unicorns you need to rest.
Dos Equis
GOLD
Perhaps experience has helped us better understand each other.
Which begs the question of why international play needs limited subs.