announcement boards on facebook.These aren't the soccer boards?
announcement boards on facebook.These aren't the soccer boards?
Don't forget the new EA2!Well, with MLS Next as the undisputed boys top tier, and ECNL, UPSL, EA, E64 and to some extent still NPL competing for top talent, it's going to get very diffuse in socal on the boys second tier.
Does it seem to anyone else that where this is all going will be that the top-tier and second tier leagues (MLS Next & ECNL on the boys side and ECNL & GA on the girls side) will engage in an arms race of adding new teams into their second-tier sub-leagues (ERCL/DPL/EA2/E64, etc) and eventually third tier sub-sub-leagues until there's only a few teams left and then those competing top leagues just morph into the old SCDSL vs CSL rivalry?Don't forget the new EA2!
The difference is that some clubs like AYSO United are locked out of the top leagues which they weren't with the old coast system. Other clubs, like the Latino clubs of the San Fernando Valley, have basically disappeared. Small independent clubs have had to take affiliation deals with the academies or the larger clubs. The old rivalry will be recreated, but there will be less choice, less independence, and particularly in the second and third tier talent will be more diffuse. Partially this is caused because it's all in service to the academies, around which everything in US soccer is structured, but if UPSL is really a new letter league and it's going to consist of the clubs so far listed plus the third or forth teams of the MLS Next clubs, I find it hard to see how even the reserves at Galaxy and LAFC will get good training out of it. I frankly wouldn't be surprised if somewhere along the way it doesn't result in lawsuits.Does it seem to anyone else that where this is all going will be that the top-tier and second tier leagues (MLS Next & ECNL on the boys side and ECNL & GA on the girls side) will engage in an arms race of adding new teams into their second-tier sub-leagues (ERCL/DPL/EA2/E64, etc) and eventually third tier sub-sub-leagues until there's only a few teams left and then those competing top leagues just morph into the old SCDSL vs CSL rivalry?
Possession takes more time to develop.
To follow your analogy to its silly conclusion, some breeds have a tendency to accumulate vet bills. Don’t buy the dalmation if you are trying to save money.That is a great way to look at it. Who cares if the initial investment is different by a few hundred dollars. If you end up going to the same vet, buying the same food, using the same same kennels, the cost of the dog is the same. Claiming that one letter league is more expensive than the other is just another case of the pot calling the kettle black. If you are traveling outside of your county for league games, and have mandatory post/pre-season events, your soccer costs are likely the same as those participating in the other leagues.
To follow your analogy to its silly conclusion, some breeds have a tendency to accumulate vet bills. Don’t buy the dalmation if you are trying to save money.
Take a look at the game history on Soccer Rankings. If the club’s older teams go to a lot of out of state tournaments, then expect to pay for them as your kid gets older.
Someone here did one. On the girls side, ECNL has stronger average teams than GA, which has stronger average teams than ECRL.We are comparing Leagues in this discussion, not Clubs and Teams. Sorry if my analogy threw off your logic. It would be really cool if Soccer Rankings created a League Comparison section.
Also the geography matters.Someone here did one. On the girls side, ECNL has stronger average teams than GA, which has stronger average teams than ECRL.
Anything below that, and you’re paying someone to tell you how great your kid is. This also applies to the three I mentioned, but to a lesser extent.
I don’t see how you can compare costs by league, though. Even within a league, travel costs can vary widely. One team might do four tournaments and nationals, while another just focuses on league and scrimmages. That’s a difference of several thousand dollars per year.
The $$ money machine wants you believe that leagues "stack" up but in reality it's the players not the clubs, leagues, etc.
Do players get better or improve more in a league vs training or practicing? Some of both but many believe trophies are WON at practice and your just picking them up at any given competition.
All this abc league is better vs xyz is all about marketing and $$ and many parents go for it hook, line, and sinker. Same with tournaments why do you think there's so many in six different flights, because parents want to pay for "winning" that $2 medal and $20 trophy. The don't want to pay if a team is not "winning" and this causes a bunch of unnecessary grief or conflict for players who often get discouraged by their parents because they want to see immediate tangible results not long term growth or development which doesn't have a set timeline.
In the end it's all about the coaching, practicing, training that's more important. Playing time is next priority, the league would be down the list after that, most players not going to have a great season not starting and regular 1.5hr x2-3 sessions a week normally not nearly enough if they have aspirations at the top or highest levels.
Many are also doing futsal which is quadruple the number of touches as field in the same amount of time.Extra touches and training are very important. Many teams in Coast or SoCal only had practice twice a week while ECNL/GA are at 3 times a week. Right there is 50% more touches. Being a keeper my daughter had her 2 practices a week with her team, but then supplemented that with 2 keeper training practices outside the club so she was going 4X a week. Interesting many of our girls from club were actually better after the High School season since they were practicing 4x a week for their High Schools.
Someone here did one. On the girls side, ECNL has stronger average teams than GA, which has stronger average teams than ECRL.
Anything below that, and you’re paying someone to tell you how great your kid is. This also applies to the three I mentioned, but to a lesser extent.
I don’t see how you can compare costs by league, though. Even within a league, travel costs can vary widely. One team might do four tournaments and nationals, while another just focuses on league and scrimmages. That’s a difference of several thousand dollars per year.
It would be really cool if Soccer Rankings created a League Comparison section.
What I think would be more important than simply showing which league is "better" would be to show the top teams, middle teams, and lower teams. Per age group, per league, and separated by each geography.
This is what parents really need to see when making a decision on which team/club to play for.
What I think would be more important than simply showing which league is "better" would be to show the top teams, middle teams, and lower teams. Per age group, per league, and separated by each geography.
This is what parents really need to see when making a decision on which team/club to play for.
I think this would be the best option because the data sources are directly connected to their league. You pick the most recent league that a team has data from, excluding tournaments.And certain (most?) game data sources could have a league assigned to them on import, and as they are assigned to a team - that league data is assigned to that team - so the initial entry and most updating would be automated at scale.