Getting another player card to guest play?

[Grace T.]

You guys have run into some bad apples. I've only had one out of the 17 TMs bt my children act this way and the coach and team hated the particular TM because of that. Coach couldn't get rid of him because no one else wanted to be TM and no one wanted the "benefits" enough or disliked him enough to take on the responsibilities and work. While I agree there are definitely some benefits to TMs because they are the ones communicating with the coach a lot, they generally do not have more sway about play time than your average complaining parent.

There's a reason we don't have a line of people waiting to be TMs. Have you ever heard of parents fighting to be TMs or asking to co TM? No...bc all these "benefits" aren't worth the effort required to be TMs.

Oh the pool is also limited. You can't give it to certain players parents (such as the weakest players or you'll get blow back on the playtime, if there's more than 1 keeper either of them, if there are 2 equivalent strikers battling it out for the starter either of them, if the roster is over 18 any of the nondressers), you don't want a difficult parent that's going to challenge you, you don't want a knowledgeable parent that's going to raise questions how you do things, and you can't use the absent parents or the disorganized parent or the loud parent. Given the shortage as a result, the incentive structure is to bribe the TM (because as you point out no one else wants to do it).

It's also not true they don't have more sway about play time. I once knew a manager that made it her mission and succeeded to use her position to make her kid the sole No. 1 for the team. Nothing but a mama bear looking out for her kid, but that's the inherent conflict of interest. The position carries enormous potential power for a machiavellian with a weak coach or a coach uninterested in dealing with management....thankfully most people are not like that.

 

[crush]

You used your kid's picture to soften an insult on people who have helped you through your kid's youth career.

I was a TM for one year and I hated it because of parents like you who were ungrateful and thought there were so many benefits to all the work I put in.

Imagine if parents on your DD's HS team said "Your wife was a brown noser for being a TM and that's the only reason your DD got play time even though she was holding her team back". How would you feel @crush? That's what your doing to all these TMs and GMs that have helped you out.

This is personal for you, we must know each other. I have a few TMs and Dads on here who hate me. I Insult you with a picture of my dd? Legends was amazing for my kid and so was the TM. Wrong again sockma. My dd would start every game in HS regardless of my wife being TM. My wife helped out because the mom before her did amazing job and she passed the baton over to her. My wife then passed it on the next mom. I did not say ALL TMs and GMs are liars and gossips. Some, some, some are brown nosers, gossips and complete clowns who got in the way of my dd career and tried to stop the player card issue. I had one TM say, "Hey Crush, I know some of the top college coaches and I can reach out to them for you if you would like. You know, put in a good word." I also had one of the top coaches in the country tell me over the phone that he knows everything about what my dd says and does because he has spies who stir up sh*t about the goings on of what my dd posts on SM." Seriously, give it up.

 

[crush]

Oh the pool is also limited. You can't give it to certain players parents (such as the weakest players or you'll get blow back on the playtime, if there's more than 1 keeper either of them, if there are 2 equivalent strikers battling it out for the starter either of them, if the roster is over 18 any of the nondressers), you don't want a difficult parent that's going to challenge you, you don't want a knowledgeable parent that's going to raise questions how you do things, and you can't use the absent parents or the disorganized parent or the loud parent. Given the shortage as a result, the incentive structure is to bribe the TM (because as you point out no one else wants to do it).

It's also not true they don't have more sway about play time. I once knew a manager that made it her mission and succeeded to use her position to make her kid the sole No. 1 for the team. Nothing but a mama bear looking out for her kid, but that's the inherent conflict of interest. The position carries enormous potential power for a machiavellian with a weak coach or a coach uninterested in dealing with management....thankfully most people are not like that.

I had a pal that had a dd GK that was forced to leave the A Team because the new TM said only one GK and it's her dd only and 100% guaranteed or no volunteering from mama bear. Listen to Sockma. 16 out 17 excellent TMs and only one bad apple. In fact, the TM said she worked out that the only back up was a field player and the B team goalie. No joke. This TM got what she wanted because the coach was a weak man. I ruined it for my dd because the parents run the asylum in girls soccer.

 

[Grace T.]

I had a pal that had a dd GK that was forced to leave the A Team because the new TM said only one GK and it's her dd only and 100% guaranteed or no volunteering from mama bear. Listen to Sockma. 16 out 17 excellent TMs and only one bad apple. In fact, the TM said she worked out that the only back up was a field player and the B team goalie. No joke. This TM got what she wanted because the coach was a weak man. I ruined it for my dd because the parents run the asylum in girls soccer.

Yeah, it's unwise for a coach to ever put a GK parent (many of whom are both unusually knowledgeable and involved) in the role. It creates problems with accountability and the GK too, particularly if there's more than 1.

Sockma has a point that it's a thankless job that very few people want. The other aspect to the story is that on average 1/2 the team in unusable in the role which means you start from a limited pool. So you get four types of people that fill it: angels that are able to rise above their self-interest and do what's best for the team, managers that have very few responsibilities since the coach basically runs everything (more true on the older, higher letter leagues) including the admin, wives and other SOs who don't have the conflict of interest, and those that are looking to get something out of it or have an agenda.

 

[sockma]

This is personal for you, we must know each other. I have a few TMs and Dads on here who hate me. I Insult you with a picture of my dd? Legends was amazing for my kid and so was the TM. Wrong again sockma. My dd would start every game in HS regardless of my wife being TM. My wife helped out because the mom before her did amazing job and she passed the baton over to her. My wife then passed it on the next mom. I did not say ALL TMs and GMs are liars and gossips. Some, some, some are brown nosers, gossips and complete clowns who got in the way of my dd career and tried to stop the player card issue. I had one TM say, "Hey Crush, I know some of the top college coaches and I can reach out to them for you if you would like. You know, put in a good word." I also had one of the top coaches in the country tell me over the phone that he knows everything about what my dd says and does because he has spies who stir up sh*t about the goings on of what my dd posts on SM." Seriously, give it up.

@crush - I was giving you a made up example using your wife in order to help you empathize...

So a TM tried to help your kid out by putting in a good word in with a college?
Did you think that Coaches don't ask around about players? That's part of their job. They want to know what type of human being they are bringing into their program.

I like pictures of kids just fine. I don't like it when dads use their kids pictures as a way to soften his insults.

 

[crush]

@crush - I was giving you a made up example using your wife in order to help you empathize...

So a TM tried to help your kid out by putting in a good word in with a college?
Did you think that Coaches don't ask around about players? That's part of their job.
They want to know what type of human being they are bringing into their program.

I like pictures of kids just fine. I don't like it when dads use their kids pictures as a way to soften his insults.

Black Bold: I am a very strong empath male, which is very rare. My wife got a very nice gift card for doing a very good job.
Red Bold: I paid a coach to help my dd, not a TM. You proved my point about TMs sticking their nose in things they should not. I am very aware that college coaches ask the TM, "Hey, tell me about that one over there. She is fast and quick. Why is she not signed?" This is not your job TM and that is why is total BS. I think I know who you are. I never signed up to have the TM do my kids bidding. What a joke. I will say two TM mama bears did not like my dd and I know why. Nosey little gossips who were complete control freaks.
Blue Bold: Typical TM you are. You have bitterness towards dads like me. To all Docs and coaches. The TMs and GM parents stepping in and giving information (gossip, lies and half truths about our kids is flat out wrong and evil) about our dd's will not go unpunished. This is one of the abuses in youth soccer. What a loser job. I see how you volunteer sockma.

 

[crush]

They want to know what type of human being they are bringing into their program.

Gee, I wonder what type of humans their looking for? So they go to the Doc and the TM to find out what kind of person they might be bringing into their wonderful program. What about this clowns program?

Former ISU soccer players allege psychological abuse from coach

TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (WISH) — “Take a deep breath,” said I-Team 8’s Jasmine Minor. Nervous, yet determined. For four former female Division I soccer players, this was the first time they’ve shared their stories publicly — and it’s five years in the making. “My doctor (and I), we discussed me going...

www.wishtv.com

What a joke. I know a Doc that was banging moms, coaches, office staff and lying all day but this type of Doc and the TM supporting this behavior know what type of human their getting. This is disgusting. It's what's 100% wrong with youth soccer. The player card is a control card. If you speak out against abuse or bad behavior, the Doc and or the TM will say, "Hey coach, don't pick that one. She's a Maverick and the Dad is a Hawk." Keep talking sockma. Parents are thanking me in the DM section because they want to know ALL the pitfalls.

 

[focomoso]

Red Bold: I paid a coach to help my dd, not a TM. You proved my point about TMs sticking their nose in things they should not. I am very aware that college coaches ask the TM, "Hey, tell me about that one over there. She is fast and quick. Why is she not signed?" This is not your job TM and that is why is total BS. I think I know who you are. I never signed up to have the TM do my kids bidding. What a joke. I will say two TM mama bears did not like my dd and I know why. Nosey little gossips who were complete control freaks.
Blue Bold: Typical TM you are. You have bitterness towards dads like me. To all Docs and coaches. The TMs and GM parents stepping in and giving information (gossip, lies and half truths about our kids is flat out wrong and evil) about our dd's will not go unpunished. This is one of the abuses in youth soccer. What a loser job. I see how you volunteer sockma.

Man, you have so many personal grudges, how do you keep track of them all?

What do you expect a TM to say when asked about a player? "This guy on the internet says I shouldn't stick my nose in, so... 'no comment'"? That's not how it works.

 

[crush]

Man, you have so many personal grudges, how do you keep track of them all?

What do you expect a TM to say when asked about a player? "This guy on the internet says I shouldn't stick my nose in, so... 'no comment'"? That's not how it works.

Black Bold: You're supposed to be ignoring me focomoso. When someone's little girl get abused and lied to, Papa Bear has personal grudges, you are correct.
Red Bold & Blue Bold: I expect the TM to keep their big mouth shut or at least say, "Call the player coach or email the player and find out about the human being yourself." A TM should NEVER talk about someone's else's dd or about her father. You and sockma have proven my point. Why the F should they say anything about someone else's kid? It's not their freaking job to volunteer gossip with the college coaches, or is it?
TM with a personal grudge toward player and dad is the problem. "Hey coach, don't pick that player. She doesn't like to do school work and her old man is crazy." Is this how works? Coach just has TM do all the talking and recruiting on Childs behalf. Lovely, I feel so much better about the process. We have a systematic abuse problem from the Pros all the way down to the youth game and ANYONE who speaks out on abuse of females get's treated like some crazy internet guy. OK TM, thanks for advice. EVERYONE, this is how the game is played. Keep your big mouth shut so the TM can talk on your kids behalf. Wow!!!

 

[sockma]

Black Bold: I am a very strong empath male, which is very rare. My wife got a very nice gift card for doing a very good job.
Red Bold: I paid a coach to help my dd, not a TM. You proved my point about TMs sticking their nose in things they should not. I am very aware that college coaches ask the TM, "Hey, tell me about that one over there. She is fast and quick. Why is she not signed?" This is not your job TM and that is why is total BS. I think I know who you are. I never signed up to have the TM do my kids bidding. What a joke. I will say two TM mama bears did not like my dd and I know why. Nosey little gossips who were complete control freaks.
Blue Bold: Typical TM you are You have bitterness towards dads like me. To all Docs and coaches. The TMs and GM parents stepping in and giving information (gossip, lies and half truths about our kids is flat out wrong and evil) about our dd's will not go unpunished. This is one of the abuses in youth soccer. What a loser job. I see how you volunteer sockma.

Sure @crush. Everyone should be quiet and not exercise their right to speak except for YOU. You are the only one who gets to be a keyboard warrior or tell people ALL your opinions over and over and over again.

I was only a team manager for a year because I actually hate the unpaid job where I had to deal with ungrateful people like you all the time who expected team managers to be perfect and mute. Just do your bidding and be your little slave without a thought of their own. Is that right Master Crush?

You think College coaches should just take YOUR word for what human you are and not do any investigation on their own? They'll talk to the player to investigate too but they'll use all their resources to see whether they want to commit to a player for 4 years.

Are you bringing up some random problems to justify you being ungrateful for all the work your TMs put in. Yeah, there's a jerk of a coach somewhere out there - what does that have to do with Good coaches doing their due diligence and researching whether a player would be a good fit for their program?

 

[Socal-Soccer-Dad]

they will get forwarded to your coach.

Is this a problem?
My kid is still prioritizing own team's tourney/games/scrimmages.
Would only be guesting when weekend is wide open devoid of any games at all...
And it isn't a "local rival" club... and no thinking of jumping ship or anything at all...

Just wondering if coaches really still care in that case?

My kid just wants to, from time to time, play with some close friends from school who play on different clubs and sometimes need an extra player...
Haha why is this so hard...

 

[crush]

Q & A with Sockma the TM
TM: Sure Crush. Everyone should be quiet and not exercise their right to speak except for YOU.
Crush: I never said you can't share on the forum. I welcome this, trust me. TY for sharing the truth about the TMs role. I also said the players card in the TM's hands is a dumb and controlling and "some" TMs cause gossip and are snitches.
TM: You are the only one who gets to be a keyboard warrior or tell people ALL your opinions over and over and over again.
Crush: I never said only I can be a keyword warrior. I share about abuse from lying Docs and coaches that are control freaks in youth soccer. My opinion is the TM and GM is a big problem in youth soccer and you are making that clear today, as is focomoso. For the 100th time, not all TMs are assholes and gossips who talk to college coaches on behalf of the player's parents who paid over $10K to get recruited.
TM: I was only a team manager for a year because I actually hate the unpaid job where I had to deal with ungrateful people like you all the time who expected team managers to be perfect and mute.
Crush: I never said TMs needed to be perfect. I said TM's need to STFU, stop gossiping, stay out of the recruiting process and just help the coach with team things. People like you are a big problem because if you hate someone like me because I am ungrateful, you can tell coahces I don't play pay for play the right way. You and all TMs have no right to talk on behalf of the my or anyone's child.
TM: Just do your bidding and be your little slave without a thought of their own. Is that right Master Crush?
Crush: No, just stay out other parents child's recruiting process. You have deep issue with me, it's obvious.
TM: You think College coaches should just take YOUR word for what human you are and not do any investigation on their own?
Crush: No, I think college coaches should talk to the player and their coach. The TM has NO PLACE in the recruiting process, especially someone like you and focomoso
TM: They'll talk to the player to investigate too but they'll use all their resources to see whether they want to commit to a player for 4 years.
Crush: No problem with that. But talking to the TM as a resource is a big problem for me asshat. I'm proving that point today. If a mama bear TM hates my dd because, it does not give that mama bear TM the right to share what she thinks of the kind of human my dd is. What a joke you are. You sure like to get involved though, that is obvious.
TM: Are you bringing up some random problems to justify you being ungrateful for all the work your TMs put in.
Crush: TMs need to get out of the recruiting process, stop gossiping. This is not a random problem, it's a big problem.
TM: Yeah, there's a jerk of a coach somewhere out there -
Crush: Jerk and abuser are two different things TM.
TM: what does that have to do with Good coaches doing their due diligence and researching whether a player would be a good fit for their program?
Crush: Again, good coaches will do their due diligences. Lazy and dumb coaches will just go talk with the TM to get the real scoop. We have a systematic sexual, emotional and mental abuse problems with male coaches and some female coaches in the game of soccer. Not my words. Sally Yates did a report on this and she said we have a big, big, big problem and it's not some random problem either. Today, you have proven me to be right. I love the discussions. Please continue. My dd went through abuse TM and it wasn't a one off. You seem to only care that I was ungrateful dad to you and I didn't appreciate all your volunteer work and gossip you did for my kid on the recruiting side.

Everyone, I keep hitting the abusive behavior in the sport of soccer because so many are afraid to be labeled and retaliated against by not only the coach and or Doc, but the TM as well. My dd went through hell by people like this. Sorry, but it's true. Go to google and type in abusive coaches. It's a big problem in sports. I just want it to stop. I'm not going anywhere.

 

[crush]

Is this a problem?
My kid is still prioritizing own team's tourney/games/scrimmages.
Would only be guesting when weekend is wide open devoid of any games at all...
And it isn't a "local rival" club... and no thinking of jumping ship or anything at all...

Just wondering if coaches really still care in that case?

My kid just wants to, from time to time, play with some close friends from school who play on different clubs and sometimes need an extra player...
Haha why is this so hard...

It all depends. My dd wanted to play high school soccer and she was told, "No, it's not allowed." Then the rich parents and the rich TMs, whose kids went to private school got waivers and it was ok to do because. This youth soccer so-called sport is a cult. They control you from players card to who and where you can play and what you post online. They have spies to monitor your childs behavior online as well. If your not grateful for the TM, the TM will tell the college coaches your dd is a bad human and bad for the program. These people are nuts. I knew it is was bad, but man, this is insane. I have dear friend whose dd quit soccer her Fr year in college because of a bad human coach. She had no idea until she got to campus and the guy turn into a complete asshole. Read the stories online. Girls are afraid to speak up because they don't want to let down their parents dream for them so they endure the abuse until they can't take it anymore. The player card is just that, the players card. It's not the TM's card to play head games with.

 

[focomoso]

It all depends. My dd wanted to play high school soccer and she was told, "No, it's not allowed." Then the rich parents and the rich TMs, whose kids went to private school got waivers and it was ok to do because. This youth soccer so-called sport is a cult. They control you from players card to who and where you can play and what you post online. They have spies to monitor your childs behavior online as well. If your not grateful for the TM, the TM will tell the college coaches your dd is a bad human and bad for the program. These people are nuts. I knew it is was bad, but man, this is insane. I have dear friend whose dd quit soccer her Fr year in college because of a bad human coach. She had no idea until she got to campus and the guy turn into a complete asshole. Read the stories online. Girls are afraid to speak up because they don't want to let down their parents dream for them so they endure the abuse until they can't take it anymore. The player card is just that, the players card. It's not the TM's card to play head games with.

You're not making any sense. Are there bad coaches in the game? Yes. Let's work to get them out. But this has F-all to do with the responsibilities of the (unpaid, volunteer) TM. On some teams, the TM is the voice of reason and it is perfectly reasonable for scouts to talk to the them about players before they approach the family. On the boys side, this is the only personal info the scouts can get about a boy before jr. year.

If a TM is suggesting that your daughter's old man is crazy, maybe take that as a chance to look in the mirror.

 

[crush]

You're not making any sense. Are there bad coaches in the game? Yes. Let's work to get them out. But this has F-all to do with the responsibilities of the (unpaid, volunteer) TM. On some teams, the TM is the voice of reason and it is perfectly reasonable for scouts to talk to the them about players before they approach the family. On the boys side, this is the only personal info the scouts can get about a boy before jr. year.

If a TM is suggesting that your daughter's old man is crazy, maybe take that as a chance to look in the mirror.

Your supposed to be ignoring me. Are you a TM focomoso? I will do Q & A with you as well.
TM: You're not making any sense
Crush: I never make sense to the TMs
TM: Are there bad coaches in the game? Yes. Let's work to get them out
Crush: That's what I'm doing. I'm sounding the alarm TM and your not helping. Ignores me but decides to jump in about my problems with "some" of the TMs in youth soccer. Thank you for sharing the truth about the inner workings of the TM
TM: But this has F-all to do with the responsibilities of the (unpaid, volunteer) TM.
Crush: This is what I thought was going on when I filmed the TMs chatting it up with the college coaches. The Doc never told me the TM's responsibilities was to talk to the college coaches about what kind of human my dd was and her old man and their family behave.
TM: On some teams, the TM is the voice of reason and it is perfectly reasonable for scouts to talk to the them about players before they approach the family
Crush: This is a big problem. I had no idea how bad it was but the more you and sockma share, the worse it gets. So basically, I pay the club $4000+ all the other sh*t that is over $10K all so the TM can share with the coaches the scoop before they talk to the players family? That was never, ever told to me but I did see the TMs handing out flyers and talking way to long. I'm sure coach get's the TMs phone number to chat later on what kind of human my dd is. No wonder no coach ever called our family. The voice of reason is the TM everyone. I spit my food out on that quote
TM: On the boys side, this is the only personal info the scouts can get about a boy before jr. year.
Crush: My sister in law is right and others on the boys side are right about the role to the TM. This is flat out wrong.
TM: If a TM is suggesting that your daughter's old man is crazy, maybe take that as a chance to look in the mirror.
Crush: Listen up focomos, you need to look in the mirror. TMs have no business talking to scouts about what they think of my freaking family or my dd, especially one's that I confront on their BS lies, gossips and maybe even some doing a little naughty with coach. Are you serious? This is way worse then I ever imagined.

People, this is not right. Basically, TM sockma and TM focomos are telling you the truth. Only they are the voice of reason and only they can share about what kind of human your kid is. If you kiss their ass, say thank you for all their volunteer work and never question them about where the money goes and actually where it went, they will tell the scouts your family is bad and their kid is not a good human. This is a cult and very expensive one at that.

 

[sockma]

Is this a problem?
My kid is still prioritizing own team's tourney/games/scrimmages.
Would only be guesting when weekend is wide open devoid of any games at all...
And it isn't a "local rival" club... and no thinking of jumping ship or anything at all...

Just wondering if coaches really still care in that case?

My kid just wants to, from time to time, play with some close friends from school who play on different clubs and sometimes need an extra player...
Haha why is this so hard...

most coaches don't care if this is the scenario. just communicate it.

 

[crush]

To TM sockma and TM focomoso. I looked in the mirror and I see a good father who loves his family and his two kids. I am not perfect, just ask my family. I never kissed anyone's ass in youth soccer and for that, I am guilty. I had many issues with TMs, 100% I won't lie. I did detective work to see what this was all about at the showcases. I do appreciate the two of you sharing the truth of the inner working of how the recruiting process is and the role of the TMs. I had this coach from Yale roaming the fields trying to get my dd to talk with him. We had to email him and I told my dd, "no, your too young and Yales is not for you honey." I am not a fan of the Ivy leagues and based on my dd abilities with school, that was not a good fit. That's what a good dad does. Parents told me she could get a free ride to Yale if I just hit the send button. I have more if you want TMs.

The former Yale University women's soccer coach was sentenced yesterday in federal court in Boston for accepting bribes to facilitate the admission of students to Yale as purported athletic recruits. Rudolph “Rudy” Meredith, 54, of Madison, Conn., was sentenced by U.S. Senior District Court Judge Mark L.

The guy they hired after him was fired for being a bad human at New Haven. Look, I'm glad focomos wants to weed this out but this needs to go faster.

 

[sockma]

Q & A with Sockma the TM
TM: Sure Crush. Everyone should be quiet and not exercise their right to speak except for YOU.
Crush: I never said you can't share on the forum. I welcome this, trust me. TY for sharing the truth about the TMs role. I also said the players card in the TM's hands is a dumb and controlling and "some" TMs cause gossip and are snitches.
TM: You are the only one who gets to be a keyboard warrior or tell people ALL your opinions over and over and over again.
Crush: I never said only I can be a keyword warrior. I share about abuse from lying Docs and coaches that are control freaks in youth soccer. My opinion is the TM and GM is a big problem in youth soccer and you are making that clear today, as is focomoso. For the 100th time, not all TMs are assholes and gossips who talk to college coaches on behalf of the player's parents who paid over $10K to get recruited.
TM: I was only a team manager for a year because I actually hate the unpaid job where I had to deal with ungrateful people like you all the time who expected team managers to be perfect and mute.
Crush: I never said TMs needed to be perfect. I said TM's need to STFU, stop gossiping, stay out of the recruiting process and just help the coach with team things. People like you are a big problem because if you hate someone like me because I am ungrateful, you can tell coahces I don't play pay for play the right way. You and all TMs have no right to talk on behalf of the my or anyone's child.
TM: Just do your bidding and be your little slave without a thought of their own. Is that right Master Crush?
Crush: No, just stay out other parents child's recruiting process. You have deep issue with me, it's obvious.
TM: You think College coaches should just take YOUR word for what human you are and not do any investigation on their own?
Crush: No, I think college coaches should talk to the player and their coach. The TM has NO PLACE in the recruiting process, especially someone like you and focomoso
TM: They'll talk to the player to investigate too but they'll use all their resources to see whether they want to commit to a player for 4 years.
Crush: No problem with that. But talking to the TM as a resource is a big problem for me asshat. I'm proving that point today. If a mama bear TM hates my dd because, it does not give that mama bear TM the right to share what she thinks of the kind of human my dd is. What a joke you are. You sure like to get involved though, that is obvious.
TM: Are you bringing up some random problems to justify you being ungrateful for all the work your TMs put in.
Crush: TMs need to get out of the recruiting process, stop gossiping. This is not a random problem, it's a big problem.
TM: Yeah, there's a jerk of a coach somewhere out there -
Crush: Jerk and abuser are two different things TM.
TM: what does that have to do with Good coaches doing their due diligence and researching whether a player would be a good fit for their program?
Crush: Again, good coaches will do their due diligences. Lazy and dumb coaches will just go talk with the TM to get the real scoop. We have a systematic sexual, emotional and mental abuse problems with male coaches and some female coaches in the game of soccer. Not my words. Sally Yates did a report on this and she said we have a big, big, big problem and it's not some random problem either. Today, you have proven me to be right. I love the discussions. Please continue. My dd went through abuse TM and it wasn't a one off. You seem to only care that I was ungrateful dad to you and I didn't appreciate all your volunteer work and gossip you did for my kid on the recruiting side.

Everyone, I keep hitting the abusive behavior in the sport of soccer because so many are afraid to be labeled and retaliated against by not only the coach and or Doc, but the TM as well. My dd went through hell by people like this. Sorry, but it's true. Go to google and type in abusive coaches. It's a big problem in sports. I just want it to stop. I'm not going anywhere.

If a college coach doesn't want to know a TM's opinion about a player, the coach won'

The TM May be one (out of many) resource coaches use, but some don't use TM either. Coaches also speak with TMs for awhile to get the feel of whether a TM is honest or a jerk. They don't take the words of TM alone. If you have the TM, Coach, Docs, current students and parents of current students give the same input on an individual - College Coaches will know that the truth is.

I Know Crush, you're about to say ALL THOSE PEOPLE CAN BE TERRIBLE AND WRONG, except for you. And then you're going to sidetrack with some random bad things that have happened in college soccer or youth soccer.

 

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If a college coach doesn't want to know a TM's opinion about a player, the coach won'

The TM May be one (out of many) resource coaches use, but some don't use TM either. Coaches also speak with TMs for awhile to get the feel of whether a TM is honest or a jerk. They don't take the words of TM alone. If you have the TM, Coach, Docs, current students and parents of current students give the same input on an individual - College Coaches will know that the truth is.

I Know Crush, you're about to say ALL THOSE PEOPLE CAN BE TERRIBLE AND WRONG, except for you. And then you're going to sidetrack with some random bad things that have happened in college soccer or youth soccer.

I am a good person, a loving husband and father. My son and daughter are amazing humans you nutcase. I knew you were crazy but not this crazy. Kind of scary but what else do I have to lose beside being told to look in the mirror and I'm a bad human. My dd is a bad ass warrior woman and if you try and abuse her verbally, emotionally, mentally or God forbid sexually, your going to have a big fu*king problem on your hands. I was trying not to cuss but it came out. Like I said, the TM has no business in the recruiting process and if the TM does, then the Doc needs to 100% let the team know before parents sign a check and their life away: "Hey team, Doc here. I need you to be grateful to the TM. Do not question them at all and do as told. They will be monitoring your dd activities on SM and will also hand out flyers and shake hands with the college coaches and the YNT team scouts. They have volunteered their time to figure out over the course of a few weeks what kind of human your kid is and what kind of trailer park family you all come from. Based on their opinion of your family and how you kid talks with the TM, will determine what kind of human you are. If the scout wants to talk with me, I will just share how good of a soccer player your kid is and that's it. I leave the gossip and what kind of human your kid is up to the TM. Who the heck would pay over $10K for that BS? This is insane. You are crazy ass control freak. This is a big problem. My DMs are lighting up and I got text from lurkers that said keep going.

 

[crush]

My son was lucky he had no TM to deal with to get into college. I know I ruined my dd chances because I was ungrateful to the TM and not wise to his or her power. He got good grades just like my daughter and filled out application and got in to SDSU, all on his own. No one asked about his family and the kind of humans they are. All paid for except housing. Were a special kind of Trailer Park Family we are. Because my dd played youth soccer, the TMs and Docs said she was a bad human for speaking out against abusers. Damn, I should have had her go through the same process all the kids do, like apply instead and try to just walk on. My dd might just end up going to college after all, once this cheating is over with, we shall see. Online school has been easy so she will have some units if she goes, if the coast is clear. This pic is on Instagram so I hope your not triggered sockma and find it weird to post a family pic that is all over the internet already.