Revisionist? Not really. The original data promised me 85% protection against base variant and maybe Alpha. It delivered. It also gave me some smaller protection against later variants.This is a revisionist lie too. They thought the vaccines would be sterilizing. Not 30% efficacy reducing with time to zero
my authoritarian translator is going nuts: “magic number! Magic numbers! Too complicated for your little brain to understand. Look over here but not over there!”
I have to ask because I am curious. Do you dress up like a woman on your spare time? Men taking "Women of the Year" awards away from real women and men taking swim medals from women are not going to be around this planet anymore. Play dress up all you want bro, but don;t tell me your a women because your not, your a liar!!Revisionist? Not really. The original data promised me 85% protection against base variant and maybe Alpha. It delivered. It also gave me some smaller protection against later variants.
What did you expect? Did you really think they made a vaccine in 2020 against variants which would not even exist until 18 months later?
It's like asking why your 2017 flu shot didn't work perfectly against the 2019 flu.
Revisionist? Not really. The original data promised me 85% protection against base variant and maybe Alpha. It delivered. It also gave me some smaller protection against later variants.
What did you expect? Did you really think they made a vaccine in 2020 against variants which would not even exist until 18 months later?
It's like asking why your 2017 flu shot didn't work perfectly against the 2019 flu.
Yes!!! No more objections and just answer the Q finally. Let's see if the Dad bot can be intellectually honest for once. Pick one dad and you will go far in the next lifeSo either: a) they lied, or b) they goofed in a very big way. How do you want it?
For two years, we have known that the vaccines target the spike protein.Wow...deeper down this hole right....every time I think you can't shock me any more than you have....
The entire assumption at the beginning wasn't that it was like a flu shot. It was folks like me that were saying watching out it was like a flu shot because of the immune escape. I recall you saying in March 2021 that it would "all be over" by summer and Biden saying we'd be done the 4th of July. The assumption was that it was closer to the polio vaccine than it was a flu shot. It's how they sold it to the public. So either: a) they lied, or b) they goofed in a very big way. How do you want it?
For two years, we have known that the vaccines target the spike protein.
For almost two years, we've had news articles about variants with a change to the spike protein.
For at least a year, we've had news articles telling us about the tests to figure out whether the vaccine works on the latest variant.
Put it together. They told you straight up that the virus was mutating, that the mutations affect the vaccine target, that each new variant was affected slightly differently by the vaccine, and that they didn't know efficacy against a new variant until they test against it.
It was all right there in black and white.
This conversation, BTW, reminds me of whenever I discuss the concept of perpetual virginity of the Virgin Mary with a Catholic. It was a concept that worked itself into the Church in the 4th century but it was something which completely flew in the face of the historical record: namely, that the Bible specifically mentions the siblings of Jesus and that the first successor/pope to Jesus (James of Jerusalem) claimed to be his brother, and the Gospels themselves only claim Mary was a virgin before the birth of her eldest, Jesus. They twist themselves into a whole bunch of different directions that "sibling" is intended to mean spiritual brother or a cousin or something. The reality man is they thought the vaccine was sterlizing (or at the very minimum, if you are correct, sold it as such to the American people, if crush is right about the conspiracy). If it was a lie, it was one of the greatest con games of the modern era because everyone thought the vaccine would make things go away, and you all thought I was crazy for saying no it wouldn't. You yourself thought it was just about over, which meant you either were in on the lie and knew better, or you were just plain old wrong.Wow man. Lie it is. That was MY narrative back in the spring of 2021. YOUR narrative was that it was "just about over". And that's how they sold it to the American people.
p.s. the only thing you've done is convinced me that maybe crush has a modicum of a point (subject to later evidence coming out, which we will need to wait to hear until after the midterm shake ups happen) and there was a bit of conspiracy to it...that the Biden admin knew we would still neck into it a year later after his 4th of July deadline....
p.p.s. the greatest evidence against this is Fauci himself and his drifting herd immunity thresholds...into the spring of 2021 he was still convinced if a certain percentage of the population got vaxxed it would go away, hence the mandates.
@Grace T. This guy knew for sure.
Im starting to strongly believe the letters in the 66 books of the bible got hacked. One word changes the stories. I dont trust the men who in 382 put it together. Mary and Mary stayed with Christ to the very end. Took care of his body. The men? They left. No womam helping Constatine or King James with deciding what we read or dont read when the printing press gets invented 1300 years later. Word games are huge. Wives SUBMIT to your husbands is what Espola would habe translated. Crush would have gone with, "mem and women, work together. And submit to ONE ANOTHER as equals partners. Pop is not Joe Biden. Pop= power of penis v power of pu$$y. Men worhip both and have the strength to get both. All the answers are under the Vatican. I love you Grace TThis conversation, BTW, reminds me of whenever I discuss the concept of perpetual virginity of the Virgin Mary with a Catholic. It was a concept that worked itself into the Church in the 4th century but it was something which completely flew in the face of the historical record: namely, that the Bible specifically mentions the siblings of Jesus and that the first successor/pope to Jesus (James of Jerusalem) claimed to be his brother, and the Gospels themselves only claim Mary was a virgin before the birth of her eldest, Jesus. They twist themselves into a whole bunch of different directions that "sibling" is intended to mean spiritual brother or a cousin or something. The reality man is they thought the vaccine was sterlizing (or at the very minimum, if you are correct, sold it as such to the American people, if crush is right about the conspiracy). If it was a lie, it was one of the greatest con games of the modern era because everyone thought the vaccine would make things go away, and you all thought I was crazy for saying no it wouldn't. You yourself thought it was just about over, which meant you either were in on the lie and knew better, or you were just plain old wrong.
That would certainly explain why some are so afraid!
One more lie: if you dont love me you can go to hell!This conversation, BTW, reminds me of whenever I discuss the concept of perpetual virginity of the Virgin Mary with a Catholic. It was a concept that worked itself into the Church in the 4th century but it was something which completely flew in the face of the historical record: namely, that the Bible specifically mentions the siblings of Jesus and that the first successor/pope to Jesus (James of Jerusalem) claimed to be his brother, and the Gospels themselves only claim Mary was a virgin before the birth of her eldest, Jesus. They twist themselves into a whole bunch of different directions that "sibling" is intended to mean spiritual brother or a cousin or something. The reality man is they thought the vaccine was sterlizing (or at the very minimum, if you are correct, sold it as such to the American people, if crush is right about the conspiracy). If it was a lie, it was one of the greatest con games of the modern era because everyone thought the vaccine would make things go away, and you all thought I was crazy for saying no it wouldn't. You yourself thought it was just about over, which meant you either were in on the lie and knew better, or you were just plain old wrong.
Ha...there is nothing black and white about a novel virus, especially this one. Spike proteins, mutation, vaccine degradation...duhhh. News articles telling you what?For two years, we have known that the vaccines target the spike protein.
For almost two years, we've had news articles about variants with a change to the spike protein.
For at least a year, we've had news articles telling us about the tests to figure out whether the vaccine works on the latest variant.
Put it together. They told you straight up that the virus was mutating, that the mutations affect the vaccine target, that each new variant was affected slightly differently by the vaccine, and that they didn't know efficacy against a new variant until they test against it.
It was all right there in black and white.
Here is Fauci admitting that the vax do little to stop infection. https://www.foxnews.com/media/fauci-admits-covid-19-vaccines-protect-overly-well-infectionHa...there is nothing black and white about a novel virus, especially this one. Spike proteins, mutation, vaccine degradation...duhhh. News articles telling you what?
by the way, mutations are normally a good thing. The jury is still out on whether ongoing mutations will continue to benefit hoomans. General advice: listen to your doctor, eat well, maintain a healthy weight. If you aren't high risk, are healthy, under age 55 and your doc is pushing pharma on you, consider another doc. If you are within a high risk population, thrown back a vaccine or two, wear a mask, don't frequent confined public spaces with little to no ventilation.
Regardless of how many articles are written with sensational headlines that depict the latest and greatest doom and gloom variant, most hoomans have moved beyond covid - and rightfully so.
Ha...there is nothing black and white about a novel virus, especially this one. Spike proteins, mutation, vaccine degradation...duhhh. News articles telling you what?
by the way, mutations are normally a good thing. The jury is still out on whether ongoing mutations will continue to benefit hoomans. General advice: listen to your doctor, eat well, maintain a healthy weight. If you aren't high risk, are healthy, under age 55 and your doc is pushing pharma on you, consider another doc. If you are within a high risk population, thrown back a vaccine or two, wear a mask, don't frequent confined public spaces with little to no ventilation.
Regardless of how many articles are written with sensational headlines that depict the latest and greatest doom and gloom variant, most hoomans have moved beyond covid - and rightfully so.
Not if you are doing your best to avoid those colors.For two years, we have known that the vaccines target the spike protein.
For almost two years, we've had news articles about variants with a change to the spike protein.
For at least a year, we've had news articles telling us about the tests to figure out whether the vaccine works on the latest variant.
Put it together. They told you straight up that the virus was mutating, that the mutations affect the vaccine target, that each new variant was affected slightly differently by the vaccine, and that they didn't know efficacy against a new variant until they test against it.
It was all right there in black and white.
Aren’t you one of those that doesn’t believe the good doctor?Here is Fauci admitting that the vax do little to stop infection. https://www.foxnews.com/media/fauci-admits-covid-19-vaccines-protect-overly-well-infection
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Fauci admits that COVID-19 vaccines do not protect 'overly well' against infection
White House chief medical adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci expounded on COVID-19 vaccines' efficacy and breakthrough COVID infections Tuesday on "Your World."www.foxnews.com
what do you believe? remember when he told you vaccines worked? how about when he told you they kinda worked? how bout, that they kinda, maybe, sometimes, depends on who are work? He was our 4th of july savior, don't you remember?Aren’t you one of those that doesn’t believe the good doctor?