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crush said:
Emotional dog support is what you need. PM me and I well hook u up. I love it when hotels say no dogs. Ya, say that to my Drs. Note. I told you the system will come down hard because the system was and is built on Humam Trafficking and selfishness. You can see whp has cheated. I know many peoplel like you Grace. It took a crazy man with the balls to take on these sic lunatics
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You know me better than that....the employee at the front was practically begging me to say it was a service dog. Out of ethics, I refused.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Well, some people don’t like Mondays.
. . . and maybe college cops are braver than those in the great state of Texas? Point is masks are a minor bother in the grand scheme of things.
www.nbclosangeles.com

List: California's Deadliest School Shootings

An 18-year-old gunman shot and killed 18 children and three adults Monday at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas. It’s the latest mass shooting to take the lives of innocent children at a school in the United States. NBC4 gathered a list of California’s deadliest school shootings on campuses...
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That list missed this one --

1996 San Diego State University shooting - Wikipedia

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Grace T. said:
I'd actually argue in the greater scheme of things they are all related. When you tie the horrible failure of the police in Texas, the other recent shootings and car massacre together, the failed COVID response, the high gas prices (some predictions I'm seeing say $10 by mid summer!), the stagflation, the fact that our last two Presidents were a crazy man and someone who is practically senile at this point, and that we can't even produce baby formula, I actually wonder if civilization itself might have hit the point where it's breaking down (and not just the US, but the world as a whole).

The point was hit home this weekend when we were supposed to stay at a Marriott for a soccer tournament. We had the dog with us, and despite my having called the call center to verify the dog was o.k. to check in, when we got there they said no dogs and it was clearly posted on the website. In the old days, even as far back as my 20s, Marriott would have just rebooked us to their neighboring property that was dog friendly and apologized for the inconvenience. What followed was an hour long torture on the phone (since the hotel itself was unauthorized to help us) which resulted in my canceling my Marriott membership and throwing Marriott onto my boycotted company list (along with such other luminaries as United airlines...my longest running boycott now going on 26 years).

If we really are in the Matrix, maybe we've hit the end of the cycle? Or maybe crush is right and the rapture is upon us?
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Other countries don’t have near as many mass murders, but they do have the gas prices.
Funny, I always fly United.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
OMG! The horror . . . the horror . . . A MASK!!!!! Lol! I’d be more worried about the gun laws in that state and campus safety records.
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The fear of masks is completely overblown.

On the other hand, it is reasonable to worry that you’ll get online school when you paid for for an in person education. You don’t want to be stuck eating a baloney sandwich after you paid for the steak.
 
watfly said:
It's is completely disturbing and tragic how we have gone from Cleveland Elementary to Robb Elementary. I remember the Cleveland shooting like it was yesterday.

And by state I mean where she is going to school. Not California, thanks for giving us another reason for my kid to go out of state.
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Again, the point is that when the numbers go back up like they are the masks come back out, no biggie. Places like Texas and other states vying to be the “friendliest gun state” aren’t doing anyone but gun manufacturers any favors. Wear the damn mask it won’t kill you!
 
dad4 said:
The fear of masks is completely overblown.

On the other hand, it is reasonable to worry that you’ll get online school when you paid for for an in person education. You don’t want to be stuck eating a baloney sandwich after you paid for the steak.
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Yeah processed meat is more a concern than masks, just saying.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Other countries don’t have near as many mass murders, but they do have the gas prices.
Funny, I always fly United.
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a. first you have to adjust by limiting it to the western first world. Otherwise places like Uganda, El Salvador and even Mexico have a bone to pick with you.
b. you have to define mass murders. Most US violence is gang violence, and when you start to limit the definition of mass murders, if you throw out countries like Australia (pesky island) and Japan (another pesky island), the number of mass incidents get a whole lot closer. European mass murders though tend to be terrorist acts.
c. then you have to define "near". On a per capita basis the numbers become much closer.

There are two other ways, BTW, that this incident is related to COVID:

-By all accounts the shooter was under stress from COVID. He wrote a lot complaining about COVID policies, which apparently really affected him. I'm not saying COVID policies caused the shooting, but they have been cited as a contributing factor in a few recent events.
-Any hope of a federal gun control compromise with the red states died with COVID restrictions. On red twitter you basically see a lot of COVID proved we can't trust the government at all, and if it wasn't for our citizenry being able to stand up for itself and the problems the government knows it would cause, the feds would have tried to make us Australia or China.
 
Grace T. said:
a. first you have to adjust by limiting it to the western first world. Otherwise places like Uganda, El Salvador and even Mexico have a bone to pick with you.
b. you have to define mass murders. Most US violence is gang violence, and when you start to limit the definition of mass murders, if you throw out countries like Australia (pesky island) and Japan (another pesky island), the number of mass incidents get a whole lot closer. European mass murders though tend to be terrorist acts.
c. then you have to define "near". On a per capita basis the numbers become much closer.

There are two other ways, BTW, that this incident is related to COVID:

-By all accounts the shooter was under stress from COVID. He wrote a lot complaining about COVID policies, which apparently really affected him. I'm not saying COVID policies caused the shooting, but they have been cited as a contributing factor in a few recent events.
-Any hope of a federal gun control compromise with the red states died with COVID restrictions. On red twitter you basically see a lot of COVID proved we can't trust the government at all, and if it wasn't for our citizenry being able to stand up for itself and the problems the government knows it would cause, the feds would have tried to make us Australia or China.
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Are you trying to imply that back in 2019 red states were willing to compromise on gun control?

Which 10 Republican senators are you thinking of?

You’re mourning the death of a unicorn. It’s been decades since the GOP had senators willing to consider gun control measures.
 
Grace T. said:
a. first you have to adjust by limiting it to the western first world. Otherwise places like Uganda, El Salvador and even Mexico have a bone to pick with you.
b. you have to define mass murders. Most US violence is gang violence, and when you start to limit the definition of mass murders, if you throw out countries like Australia (pesky island) and Japan (another pesky island), the number of mass incidents get a whole lot closer. European mass murders though tend to be terrorist acts.
c. then you have to define "near". On a per capita basis the numbers become much closer.

There are two other ways, BTW, that this incident is related to COVID:

-By all accounts the shooter was under stress from COVID. He wrote a lot complaining about COVID policies, which apparently really affected him. I'm not saying COVID policies caused the shooting, but they have been cited as a contributing factor in a few recent events.
-Any hope of a federal gun control compromise with the red states died with COVID restrictions. On red twitter you basically see a lot of COVID proved we can't trust the government at all, and if it wasn't for our citizenry being able to stand up for itself and the problems the government knows it would cause, the feds would have tried to make us Australia or China.
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Coocoo.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Yeah processed meat is more a concern than masks, just saying.
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I would respect the conservative side here more if they had the ability to distinguish between their strong arguments and their weak ones.

Quite a few seem to want to conflate “keep in person schools open”’ with “all masks are useless.”. One is a valid and important point. The other has been repeatedly disproven.
 
Grace T. said:
Oh Magoo, you've done it yet again!
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"By all accounts the shooter was under stress from COVID. He wrote a lot complaining about COVID policies, which apparently really affected him. " Source?

"Any hope of a federal gun control compromise with the red states died with COVID restrictions. " The source for that, of course, is you.
 
dad4 said:
Are you trying to imply that back in 2019 red states were willing to compromise on gun control?

Which 10 Republican senators are you thinking of?

You’re mourning the death of a unicorn. It’s been decades since the GOP had senators willing to consider gun control measures.
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I'm saying, based on what I'm reading on red twitter, that they'll fight tooth and nail even against reasonable common sense limitations like magazine capacities because they are convinced now the government is out to get them. Not that it caused an inability to compromise....just that it's the nail in the coffin for the possibility of one.
 
espola said:
"By all accounts the shooter was under stress from COVID. He wrote a lot complaining about COVID policies, which apparently really affected him. " Source?

"Any hope of a federal gun control compromise with the red states died with COVID restrictions. " The source for that, of course, is you.
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She is the queen of spin!
 
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