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Gandalf has no legit beef with the jury. He knew jurisdiction going in and he had voir dire just like any other prosecutor.

I followed this one closely since thought interesting, but I did it by reading the actual transcript (a lot of it at any rate) instead of the frothy media. Here's the thing. Gandalf had no real game. The Balrog humiliated him on the court. Gandalf had three witnesses that he had squeezed real hard and he thought he had it sewed up tight. But the Balrog just started pulling up and hitting three pointers on him. I mean, the Balrog's cross of Baker, if you can get the transcript, was devasting to Gandalf. His only witness to the only thing that was actually charged. You probably won't see that on Bitchute but that's how it was. So then Gandalf tried to get into this wide open evidentiary running game with the Balrog, very little of which factored into materiality at all. Gandalf was like maybe I can get this in and use it down the road. But turns out the Balrog loves himself a running game and was just taking it to the hoop on Gandalf during cross after cross over and over. And all that's in the public record too. And then when the jury asked for the taxi billing records that Gandalf tried to surpress that was just like MJ hanging on the rim and doing a tongue wag. So Gandalf only has himself to blame. He was playing out of league with shoddy prep. He'll get another shot at the Balrog with Danchenko, but he's got some wounds to lick closed first.
TURLEY: “I mean, he is facing a jury that has three Clinton donors, an AOC donor, and a woman whose daughter is on the same sports team with Sussmann’s daughter. With the exception of randomly selecting people out of the DNC headquarters, you could not come up with a worse jury”
 
TURLEY: “I mean, he is facing a jury that has three Clinton donors, an AOC donor, and a woman whose daughter is on the same sports team with Sussmann’s daughter. With the exception of randomly selecting people out of the DNC headquarters, you could not come up with a worse jury”

So why did the prosecutor agree to place those jurors?
 
I should have been a lifeguard.


I was expecting something in there about bonuses for vaccination status, but I didn't find it.
 
So why did the prosecutor agree to place those jurors?
To get Mr. Mook and others to spill the beans and to also SHOW America the TRUTH about how justice works in our country. It's not perfect and he was 100% not guilty. This is high stakes Chess Espola. You give up a Pawn or two to get the beans spilled. Plus, Sus was not guilty for many reasons. You can;t lie to your self for one and he was charged with lying to the FBI. Next question?
 
dad and other believers hit hardest.

Lancet finds masks didn't work.

So...basically back to where we started...and that is we have known for decades masks do little to stop respiratory viruses.

“Replicating the CDC study shows similar results; however, incorporating a larger sample and longer period showed no significant relationship between mask mandates and case rates,” the study finds. “These results persisted when using regression methods to control for differences across districts. Interpretation: School districts that choose to mandate masks are likely to be systematically different from those that do not in multiple, often unobserved, ways. We failed to establish a relationship between school masking and pediatric cases using the same methods but a larger, more nationally diverse population over a longer interval. Our study demonstrates that observational studies of interventions with small to moderate effect sizes are prone to bias caused by selection and omitted variables. Randomized studies can more reliably inform public health policy.”

 
dad and other believers hit hardest.

Lancet finds masks didn't work.

So...basically back to where we started...and that is we have known for decades masks do little to stop respiratory viruses.

“Replicating the CDC study shows similar results; however, incorporating a larger sample and longer period showed no significant relationship between mask mandates and case rates,” the study finds. “These results persisted when using regression methods to control for differences across districts. Interpretation: School districts that choose to mandate masks are likely to be systematically different from those that do not in multiple, often unobserved, ways. We failed to establish a relationship between school masking and pediatric cases using the same methods but a larger, more nationally diverse population over a longer interval. Our study demonstrates that observational studies of interventions with small to moderate effect sizes are prone to bias caused by selection and omitted variables. Randomized studies can more reliably inform public health policy.”


The article was concerned with mask mandates, not the masks themselves.

And "we have known for decades masks do little to stop respiratory viruses" is entirely a fabrication.
 
dad and other believers hit hardest.

Lancet finds masks didn't work.

So...basically back to where we started...and that is we have known for decades masks do little to stop respiratory viruses.

“Replicating the CDC study shows similar results; however, incorporating a larger sample and longer period showed no significant relationship between mask mandates and case rates,” the study finds. “These results persisted when using regression methods to control for differences across districts. Interpretation: School districts that choose to mandate masks are likely to be systematically different from those that do not in multiple, often unobserved, ways. We failed to establish a relationship between school masking and pediatric cases using the same methods but a larger, more nationally diverse population over a longer interval. Our study demonstrates that observational studies of interventions with small to moderate effect sizes are prone to bias caused by selection and omitted variables. Randomized studies can more reliably inform public health policy.”

Correct me if I'm wrong but the various agencies didn't have data or studies to support Covid policies when they were implemented and only tried to justify them after the fact. And as this case illustrates, based on erroneous studies in some cases.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but the various agencies didn't have data or studies to support Covid policies when they were implemented and only tried to justify them after the fact. And as this case illustrates, based on erroneous studies in some cases.
That is exactly it.

Despite not having data supporting their position, they still instituted lockdowns, shuttered biz, closed schools, had people wear face diapers, etc.

And the data coming out keeps going in one direction.

The policies didn't work and in fact created great harm.
 
Trial of the Century News from Bill Barr:

“Complicated cases like this take a long time to build. They occur step-by-step and in secret. People don’t like that, but if they want people punished, that’s what it takes… If you want the facts, if you want a report, that can be done fairly quickly. If you want scalps, that takes time.”
 
Trial of the Century News from Bill Barr:

“Complicated cases like this take a long time to build. They occur step-by-step and in secret. People don’t like that, but if they want people punished, that’s what it takes… If you want the facts, if you want a report, that can be done fairly quickly. If you want scalps, that takes time.”

Hold it. Billy Barr? The flagellation guy? You sure that wasn't Liz Cheney that said that? Sounds like something Liz would say. She learned political infighting at her Daddy's knee. I bet she keeps a light gauge loaded up with 6 shot at the ready in her office. In case she flushes a covey. Most of those octogenarian Congress critters don't have much of a pelt left anyways. Can you imagine scalping Grassley? Kind of like the definition of a futile endeavor.
 
Anybody got the link to that Lancet paper? Like the actual paper. The latest masks suck, mandates suck one. The link from the frothy media site just links back to the original CDC analysis in MMWR from 2021....which is probably not what was intended. Didn't see anything in the Jun 1 early release on the Lancet site. Tried Google, did pull up this just yesterday release from Proc. Natl. Acad. Very large study across six continents. The Introduction gives a nice overview of some of the complicating factors in evaluating mask efficacy versus mandate efficacy.

 
So why did the prosecutor agree to place those jurors?

Right. Gandalf would have had his rounds of peremptory challenges in striking jurors, just like the Balrog. Criminal case so jurisdiction is where the crime is alleged to have been committed. Gandalf at least had the decency not to bitch and moan about the jury. That's all the Outrage Machine.
 
A good analysis of the Baker cross-examination can be found on (believe it or not) Fox News --


That is actually fair and balanced. The transcript captured something of what I'm guessing was actually the pathos in the courtroom however. So, in his cross the Balrog begins by pointing out that Baker and Sussman had been friends (past tense here). The Balrog then walks Baker through his....how shall we say....evolving recollection of his meeting with Sussman. About how Baker found himself in a bit of hot water based on previous Congressional testimony, after which Gandalf comes knocking. And up to the point where Baker's memory was refreshed and he found the Sept.18 text that supposedly meant Sussman lied to Baker. That was Gandalf's big smoking gun.

the transcript went something like this. Q: Is there something you want to tell the jury about that recollection? A: I gave my testimony yesterday. Q: And your testimony here today is already inconsistent with what you said yesterday, right? A: If that's what it says. Q: When Mr. DeFellipis asked you to to refresh your memory, did he threaten you? A: No, they never threatened me. Q: But they told you your situation with respect to the investigation could change? A: Yes. Q: That instead of a being a witness you could be prosecuted? A: Yes.

Baker has a tissue moment and the Balrog asks if they should break for the day. The judge says jury looks like they have your attention, let's get this done. The Balrog finishes Baker off. Gandalf gets a redirect but the damage is done. His witness looks like he's had the screws put to him and everything Gandalf says just reinforces that. to my read, whatever the Outrage Machine spits out, Gandalf lost the case on that cross.

And here's the thing. Gandalf jumped on a plane with Billy Barr and went chasing off after Milfud's phone or something in Italy, looking for this big conspiracy. But he never bothered to do the basic investigative steps to check Baker's phone records--just sitting in DOJ---for anything relating to his supposed star witness interactions with Sussman. If he had, Gandalf would have found the Sept 18 text message that Baker went and found on his own to get Gandalf out of his life. Gandalf could have found that before he charged Sussman with lying on the his meeting with Baker on Sept. 19, 2016. But he didn't. Just too comfy or something. And so in jury instructions the jury was instructed to find whether Sussman lied on the 19th, where it was just Baker's recollection vs. Sussman's. The text on the 18th to set up the meeting was irrelevant because Gandalf did not bother to find out about it before he indicted Sussman. Whoops. And Gandalf agreed to those jury instructions. Because he had too. Because he had no game. So all his 8 x 10 color exhibits with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back saying what each one meant counted for nothing with repect to materiality. If the earlier text had mattered he probably could have got Sussman to take the stand. But now he has to keep shuffling off to Bethlehem, hoping some political change comes about that allows him to be born. Sad.

Doing lawfare to win media cycles is one thing, doing lawfare to count coup is another.
 
That is actually fair and balanced. The transcript captured something of what I'm guessing was actually the pathos in the courtroom however. So, in his cross the Balrog begins by pointing out that Baker and Sussman had been friends (past tense here). The Balrog then walks Baker through his....how shall we say....evolving recollection of his meeting with Sussman. About how Baker found himself in a bit of hot water based on previous Congressional testimony, after which Gandalf comes knocking. And up to the point where Baker's memory was refreshed and he found the Sept.18 text that supposedly meant Sussman lied to Baker. That was Gandalf's big smoking gun.

the transcript went something like this. Q: Is there something you want to tell the jury about that recollection? A: I gave my testimony yesterday. Q: And your testimony here today is already inconsistent with what you said yesterday, right? A: If that's what it says. Q: When Mr. DeFellipis asked you to to refresh your memory, did he threaten you? A: No, they never threatened me. Q: But they told you your situation with respect to the investigation could change? A: Yes. Q: That instead of a being a witness you could be prosecuted? A: Yes.

Baker has a tissue moment and the Balrog asks if they should break for the day. The judge says jury looks like they have your attention, let's get this done. The Balrog finishes Baker off. Gandalf gets a redirect but the damage is done. His witness looks like he's had the screws put to him and everything Gandalf says just reinforces that. to my read, whatever the Outrage Machine spits out, Gandalf lost the case on that cross.

And here's the thing. Gandalf jumped on a plane with Billy Barr and went chasing off after Milfud's phone or something in Italy, looking for this big conspiracy. But he never bothered to do the basic investigative steps to check Baker's phone records--just sitting in DOJ---for anything relating to his supposed star witness interactions with Sussman. If he had, Gandalf would have found the Sept 18 text message that Baker went and found on his own to get Gandalf out of his life. Gandalf could have found that before he charged Sussman with lying on the his meeting with Baker on Sept. 19, 2016. But he didn't. Just too comfy or something. And so in jury instructions the jury was instructed to find whether Sussman lied on the 19th, where it was just Baker's recollection vs. Sussman's. The text on the 18th to set up the meeting was irrelevant because Gandalf did not bother to find out about it before he indicted Sussman. Whoops. And Gandalf agreed to those jury instructions. Because he had too. Because he had no game. So all his 8 x 10 color exhibits with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back saying what each one meant counted for nothing with repect to materiality. If the earlier text had mattered he probably could have got Sussman to take the stand. But now he has to keep shuffling off to Bethlehem, hoping some political change comes about that allows him to be born. Sad.

Doing lawfare to win media cycles is one thing, doing lawfare to count coup is another.
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