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Emma said:
If transgenders want to play a sport to be with females, then why not just stick to rec sports where athletes are not dedicating significant amount of hours to compete? If they want to be in a competitive environment, it should align with the science chromosomes because female sports were created separately for genetic females due to scientific differences.
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It sounds to me like your daughter is the one who should stick to rec sports. I can't imagine she has dedicated nearly as much time to competing as Lia Thomas has her entire life. In fact, I doubt she is even close to the top 450 or so soccer players in college like Thomas was on the men's side before he started to transition.
 
Emma said:
While sports is definitely not as serious as school shootings and insurrections, it is very meaningful to a lot of girls who dedicate a lot of time to it. I'm fully in support of everyone's right to do as they wish until it infringes on others ability to do what they wish too. When there are conflicts, we have to work them out to see how best to deal with the conflict.
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Your trying to kick transgender women out of women's sports infringes on their ability to do what they wish too. The NCAA and IOC first addressed that "conflict" over a decade ago.
 
GoldenGate said:
The "conflicts" have been resolved in favor of allowing transgender participation in women's sports. This was resolved 20 years ago with the IOC and more than a decade ago with the NCAA.

Yes, I can use the word transphobic when it is appropriate, and it is appropriate when someone cannot even accept the legitimacy of the arguments in support of transgender participation in women's sports. It is also transphobic when people make fake and irrational arguments to oppose transgender participation, such as "it's dangerous" when we're talking about someone swimming in a pool and no one in NCAA history has ever been injured in over a decade because a transgender woman participated in college sports or how the 19th century definition of "woman" is a sports rulebook, or how a transgender woman in the restroom means the end of the world. The problem here has nothing to do with me being "unwilling" to understand and accept the arguments against transgender participation in women's sports. I understand them quite well. The problem is that people like you and your more obviously transphobic friends cannot understand and accept the arguments against transgender participation in women's sports. I've weighed the pros and cons and picked one side, but you and your friends aren't willing to weigh anything. You can't even muster the willingness to accept that there are legitimate arguments on the other side of the debate. Instead, you're making ridiculous claims that "no one wants to stop transgenders from enjoying their lives or living their best lives", which is utter rubbish and you know it. You and your friends obviously want them out of sports. You want them out of the women's restroom. You want them out of being able to get married if they're in love with someone of the same biological gender, which also means you want them out of the favorable tax and intestate succession laws you enjoy. You want them out of any business that doesn't want to sell services or products to them. You want to be able to keep mocking them like micpapa because you think it's funny. It isn't funny for the reasons the Utah governor tried to veto the law.
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so many words, so little meaning --- impressive. It hasn't been resolved, it's been whitewashed. It's as if biology is no longer a discipline. Do you know any biologist? You are absurd beyond words but I admire you holding that line. There is no rule that only allows WOMEN on a WOMEN's team? Hilarious and absurd. Do you go to the vet or to your family doctor? Your common sense appears to be diminishing at an astonishing rate.
 
GoldenGate said:
It sounds to me like your daughter is the one who should stick to rec sports. I can't imagine she has dedicated nearly as much time to competing as Lia Thomas has her entire life. In fact, I doubt she is even close to the top 450 or so soccer players in college like Thomas was on the men's side before he started to transition.
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You certainly have a penchant for going after poster's daughters -why? By the way, biologist would say that Lia Thomas spent most of his life working hard and competing.
 
what-happened said:
so many words, so little meaning --- impressive. It hasn't been resolved, it's been whitewashed. It's as if biology is no longer a discipline. Do you know any biologist? You are absurd beyond words but I admire you holding that line. There is no rule that only allows WOMEN on a WOMEN's team? Hilarious and absurd. Do you go to the vet or to your family doctor? Your common sense appears to be diminishing at an astonishing rate.
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So please show me the rule that says a transgender woman cannot play women's collegiate sports? Because I'm only seeing rules that say the opposite. You don't get to hide behind a 19th century dictionary.

Your lack of common sense is astonishing no matter how much you try to whitewash your transphobia.
 
what-happened said:
You certainly have a penchant for going after poster's daughters -why? By the way, biologist would say that Lia Thomas spent most of his life working hard and competing.
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In the end, if you can't even refer to a transgender woman as "she", there is nothing you can say that anyone who is serious about this issue, let alone involved in making these decisions, has any respect for. You come into the conversation telling everyone that you're a transphobe who has no interest in treating transgender women with dignity and respect, so you get none either.
 
GoldenGate said:
It sounds to me like your daughter is the one who should stick to rec sports. I can't imagine she has dedicated nearly as much time to competing as Lia Thomas has her entire life. In fact, I doubt she is even close to the top 450 or so soccer players in college like Thomas was on the men's side before he started to transition.
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Retract the above comment.
 
GoldenGate said:
So please show me the rule that says a transgender woman cannot play women's collegiate sports? Because I'm only seeing rules that say the opposite. You don't get to hide behind a 19th century dictionary.

Your lack of common sense is astonishing no matter how much you try to whitewash your transphobia.
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Rule ?

Biology.
 
nextgenathletics said:
Just here to remind everyone that leftists attempted an 8-MONTH long, NATIONWIDE insurrection in 2020.

Don't let anyone distract you from that. They will try anything and everything. They will immediately straw man to Jan/6. Ignore it. Keep pressing. Leftists are dictionary defined terrorists.

Transgender nonsense, inflation, Ukraine, gas prices, climate change, stock market.....all pointless when we have literal domestic terrorists in this country already nationwide; these leftists are ready for a call to action at a moments notice by the democrat establishment media and corporate machine. Don't forget it.
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Is there a way to declare a thread dead after a given number of posts in topics unrelated to the original theme?
 
EvilGoalie 21 said:
What point are you trying to make regarding biology?
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He's just trying to rationalize being transphobic, and the dictionary wasn't helping his cause. Of course, because gender identity is also based on biology, that doesn't help him either. NCAA sports participation rules are determined by the NCAA, not a dictionary, and not one part of "biology" that he likes to the exclusion of the rest.
 
GoldenGate said:
He's just trying to rationalize being transphobic, and the dictionary wasn't helping his cause. Of course, because gender identity is also based on biology, that doesn't help him either. NCAA sports participation rules are determined by the NCAA, not a dictionary, and not one part of "biology" that he likes to the exclusion of the rest.
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Really? please splain. I can't wait for you to explain science..
 
GoldenGate said:
The "conflicts" have been resolved in favor of allowing transgender participation in women's sports. This was resolved 20 years ago with the IOC and more than a decade ago with the NCAA.

Yes, I can use the word transphobic when it is appropriate, and it is appropriate when someone cannot even accept the legitimacy of the arguments in support of transgender participation in women's sports. It is also transphobic when people make fake and irrational arguments to oppose transgender participation, such as "it's dangerous" when we're talking about someone swimming in a pool and no one in NCAA history has ever been injured in over a decade because a transgender woman participated in college sports or how the 19th century definition of "woman" is a sports rulebook, or how a transgender woman in the restroom means the end of the world. The problem here has nothing to do with me being "unwilling" to understand and accept the arguments against transgender participation in women's sports. I understand them quite well. The problem is that people like you and your more obviously transphobic friends cannot understand and accept the arguments against transgender participation in women's sports. I've weighed the pros and cons and picked one side, but you and your friends aren't willing to weigh anything. You can't even muster the willingness to accept that there are legitimate arguments on the other side of the debate. Instead, you're making ridiculous claims that "no one wants to stop transgenders from enjoying their lives or living their best lives", which is utter rubbish and you know it. You and your friends obviously want them out of sports. You want them out of the women's restroom. You want them out of being able to get married if they're in love with someone of the same biological gender, which also means you want them out of the favorable tax and intestate succession laws you enjoy. You want them out of any business that doesn't want to sell services or products to them. You want to be able to keep mocking them like micpapa because you think it's funny. It isn't funny for the reasons the Utah governor tried to veto the law.
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...so basically a lie.
 
nextgenathletics said:
Just here to remind everyone that leftists attempted an 8-MONTH long, NATIONWIDE insurrection in 2020.

Don't let anyone distract you from that. They will try anything and everything. They will immediately straw man to Jan/6. Ignore it. Keep pressing. Leftists are dictionary defined terrorists.

Transgender nonsense, inflation, Ukraine, gas prices, climate change, stock market.....all pointless when we have literal domestic terrorists in this country already nationwide; these leftists are ready for a call to action at a moments notice by the democrat establishment media and corporate machine. Don't forget it.
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Yes, we are out to get you. Pretty soon we'll all have you in prison camps.
 
GoldenGate said:
So basically exactly transphobia.
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XY is male
XX is female

All the exterior surgery and hormone/testosterone therapy
will not change the basic skeletal/muscle structures inherent
to the human at birth.

It's just a fact.

A male who has competed at the level Thomas has and then
decides to compete against females is just plain cheating.
Nothing will prove otherwise.

Facts are Facts.
 
thirteenknots said:
XY is male
XX is female

All the exterior surgery and hormone/testosterone therapy
will not change the basic skeletal/muscle structures inherent
to the human at birth.

It's just a fact.

A male who has competed at the level Thomas has and then
decides to compete against females is just plain cheating.
Nothing will prove otherwise.

Facts are Facts.
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Since when does complying with the rules to participate constitute cheating? Why are you even calling someone who is following the rules a cheater? Could it be because you're transphobic? Again, because people like you can't treat transgender women with dignity and respect, you get no dignity and respect either.

So are you saying all co-ed sports must be illegal because men are men and women are women? Or just the ones you care about because "competitive" sports, as you define them, are "different" because "biology" cares about the difference between NCAA and intramural sports? Are you saying businesses like the IOC and NCAA shouldn't be allowed to set their own rules about who can participate? And since when did all of you "principled" conservatives decide that businesses should be allowed to do whatever they like - unless it is something you don't like? Is this all happening because you and your friends were never actually principled at all?
 
nextgenathletics said:
Just here to remind everyone that leftists attempted an 8-MONTH long, NATIONWIDE insurrection in 2020.

Don't let anyone distract you from that. They will try anything and everything. They will immediately straw man to Jan/6. Ignore it. Keep pressing. Leftists are dictionary defined terrorists.

Transgender nonsense, inflation, Ukraine, gas prices, climate change, stock market.....all pointless when we have literal domestic terrorists in this country already nationwide; these leftists are ready for a call to action at a moments notice by the democrat establishment media and corporate machine. Don't forget it.
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Either sarcasm or this is example A of batshit crazy and proud of it. Talk about politically Pavlovian.
 
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