Vaccine

dad4 said:
Before we start a new conversation, I want to finish following up on your previous thought.

You claimed it was a bad idea to vaccinate healthy children against SARS-COV-2 ----yes I did

It is a completely untenable position --- It's not. The vast majority of vaccines produced are administered to healthy children - Sure NOT SARS-COV-2 , FDA not convinced

Vaccines aren’t even effective after you already are sick -Interesting you say this, research being done on whether vaccinating long haul covid patients helps...therapuetic maybe? hmmm..

There is no question whether it is normal to vaccinate a healthy child. It is quite common - against infections disease that can cause severe illness, pain, and suffering in healthy children.

The question is whether you are capable of recognizing an error in your argument and adjusting to a more rational position. So far, the answer appears to be ”no.” You aren't even discussing the right topic.
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You are like a self licking ice cream cone. There has only been ONE conversation - centering around whether or not to vaccinate healthy young children to "protect" them against covid. No one is disputing immunizing children against disease that protect..wait for it....against infectios disease that can cause severe illness, pain, and suffering in healthy children.

Have you called your buddies over at Pfizer and asked what the hold up is for the ulittle vaccine? Also ask them for the missing CDC data.

But let's go ahead and continue to discuss vaccinating healthy young children against the current flavor of SARS-COV-2.
 
watfly said:
You continue to miss his point entirely, but I suspect you already know that. May be its a fear induced blind spot.

Children without comorbidities (aka healthy children) have no serious risk from Covid. Why would you give someone medical treatment that they don't need? Out of fear maybe, but there is no rational reason to do so. Even if it prevented transmission, which it clearly does not, you might be able to cobble together an argument...but just a fear based one. The vaccination also doesn't provide protection in to adult hood, it barely lasts a few months. It's not like the HPV vaccination which is given as a older child to protect in adult hood.
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Quite entertaining.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
www.smithsonianmag.com

A Brief History of Anti-Fascism

As long as the ideology has threatened marginalized communities, groups on the left have pushed back with force
www.smithsonianmag.com www.smithsonianmag.com
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That’s a historical perspective how about the 2020 version. You all want to call Truckers standing up up for their rights as terrorists but not referr to the organization they fire bombed, looted and smashed property as the same or worse.

Just another crazy hypocrisy from the Left……
 
Kicker 2.0 said:
That’s a historical perspective how about the 2020 version. You all want to call Truckers standing up up for their rights as terrorists but not referr to the organization they fire bombed, looted and smashed property as the same or worse.

Just another crazy hypocrisy from the Left……
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I take it that English is not your first language.
 
Kicker 2.0 said:
That’s a historical perspective how about the 2020 version. You all want to call Truckers standing up up for their rights as terrorists but not referr to the organization they fire bombed, looted and smashed property as the same or worse.

Just another crazy hypocrisy from the Left……
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You are running off a narrative provided by your fascist leaning sources. Imagine if world leaders just responded to the narrative Putin portrays instead of reality.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You are running off a narrative provided by your fascist leaning sources. Imagine if world leaders just responded to the narrative Putin portrays instead of reality.
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Funny you say such a thing at the same time you support the Can gov actions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1495849492071002121

"wow. can't believe putin declared martial law, crushed protests, and seized opposition bank accounts."

"Alliance Defending Freedom @ADFLegal
Pause and think about the implications of a Western government telling its citizens the only way their bank accounts will be unfrozen is if they stop protesting the government."
 
Desert Hound said:
Funny you say such a thing at the same time you support the Can gov actions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1495849492071002121

"wow. can't believe putin declared martial law, crushed protests, and seized opposition bank accounts."

"Alliance Defending Freedom @ADFLegal
Pause and think about the implications of a Western government telling its citizens the only way their bank accounts will be unfrozen is if they stop protesting the government."
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Where does she say "stop protesting the government"?
 
Only regime approved protest are allowed folks

any other threaten “democracy”

when you “threaten democracy”, any action is warranted

the ones who scream the loudest about “saving democracy” have also been the quickest to invoke emergency powers the last 2 years
 
espola said:
Where does she say "stop protesting the government"?
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Its funny how her saying, if your bank account is frozen because you are doing illegal shit, then stop doing the illegal shit and we can work on unfreezing the bank account - turns into ".. if they stop protesting the government."

Invoking the Emergency Act (passed in 1988) under which the Public Order Emergency (expires after 30 days or can be called sooner) is a reach to me, and I would have thought there are enough laws on the books to deal with it, but I'm not Canadian, so wouldn't know. Apparently 66% of Canadians support (or supported) its use though, with 70%+ in a few regions. It was also passed in Parliament (required).

If someone really wants to get upset about a (Western) government looking to restrict citizen protests, then they should just go check out what the (Conservative) UK government is looking to pass.
 
Grace T. said:
Errr...because it's liberty, which sometimes conflicts with the collective good.

The problem with the collective good is that without liberty, it degenerates into tyranny, regardless of the form of government, whether monarch, aristocracy or monarchy, because someone must make the decision, and those people could very well be flawed.
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The problem is that every group in power believes that they are immune to all the ills of every previous group in power.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
The problem is that every group in power believes that they are immune to all the ills of every previous group in power.
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And the stupid thing is the great masses generally believe them time and time again when they promised to protect us from the terrorist bombs, or bring about the workers paradise, or stop the seas from rising, or make America great again, or end covid, or safety and security for all to thunderous applause.
 
@dad4 this is another reason for so much skepticism…it doesn’t sound odd to you that they are withholding information because “it’s not ready for prime time”… what? If that is for real, not good

www.dailymail.co.uk

CDC refusing to publish data on booster effectiveness for those 18-49

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was accused on Monday of withholding vital swathes of its data on COVID-19. The CDC said it was to prevent misinterpretation.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 
soccersc said:
@dad4 this is another reason for so much skepticism…it doesn’t sound odd to you that they are withholding information because “it’s not ready for prime time”… what? If that is for real, not good

www.dailymail.co.uk

CDC refusing to publish data on booster effectiveness for those 18-49

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was accused on Monday of withholding vital swathes of its data on COVID-19. The CDC said it was to prevent misinterpretation.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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Given what I see here, it is reasonable to assume that people will misinterpret the data.

For example, younger people are less vaccinated. Younger people are also less likely to need dental work. If you put your mind to it, you can twist those two facts to show that the vaccine causes tooth decay.

If that sounds silly, look back to the argument on UK data for ”deaths from all causes”. A bunch of people here made exactly that argument, except replace “tooth decay” with “death”.

So, yeah. I think misinterpretation is kind of a given at this point.
 
dad4 said:
Given what I see here, it is reasonable to assume that people will misinterpret the data.

For example, younger people are less vaccinated. Younger people are also less likely to need dental work. If you put your mind to it, you can twist those two facts to show that the vaccine causes tooth decay.

If that sounds silly, look back to the argument on UK data for ”deaths from all causes”. A bunch of people here made exactly that argument, except replace “tooth decay” with “death”.

So, yeah. I think misinterpretation is kind of a given at this point.
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Like when we didn’t need masks?

Guess we should have expected that you of all people would be in favor of limited data in order to manipulate the results to fit your narrative.

Numbers don’t lie, only people do….
 
Kicker 2.0 said:
Like when we didn’t need masks?

Guess we should have expected that you of all people would be in favor of limited data in order to manipulate the results to fit your narrative.

Numbers don’t lie, only people do….
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Do females have to take the jab to play in college?
 
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