Vaccine

dad4 said:
The kids will be the last restricted because they can’t complain as loudly. When an anti-vax adult whines, it literally sounds like a semi-truck horn.
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No it's because the teacher's union has the Democrats by the throat (which is also why San Francisco was so important....yes it wasn't about the masks...but the teacher's union strangle hold can be broken there it can be broken anywhere).

The other problem is the CDC. The CDC is saying its up to localities but they aren't changing the guidance. So the blue check localities get to point their finger at the CDC and the CDC gets to point their finger at the localities.

Teacher's unions, Ds, public health....they are the ones responsible. It's some first class gaslighting to say the antivaxxers are responsible for how kids are being treated.
 
dad4 said:
You’re hiding behind kids again.

Masks in schools are a side issue. Adults needed to step up and do their part, but many of them did not. As a result, we got two large covid waves driven by anti-mask, anti-vax adults who insisted on going to bars, restaurants, dinner parties, and gyms.
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I know, I know, you have a narrative you have to stick to. Needed is the operative word - you are from the past, arguing about the past. Left up to you, kids would continue to be masked...I get it..
 
dad4 said:
When an anti-vax adult whines, it literally sounds like a semi-truck horn.
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Evidently, that is all you are capable of hearing. Your willingness to promote authoritarianism and dismiss anything else as insignificant as long as it is accompanied by mask restrictions for adults and forced vaccinations is astoundingly myopic given the state our country is in right now. Wake the fuck up!
 
Grace T. said:
No it's because the teacher's union has the Democrats by the throat (which is also why San Francisco was so important....yes it wasn't about the masks...but the teacher's union strangle hold can be broken there it can be broken anywhere).

The other problem is the CDC. The CDC is saying its up to localities but they aren't changing the guidance. So the blue check localities get to point their finger at the CDC and the CDC gets to point their finger at the localities.

Teacher's unions, Ds, public health....they are the ones responsible. It's some first class gaslighting to say the antivaxxers are responsible for how kids are being treated.
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Gee bubble logic, where have I heard that kinda attempted confirmation logic before Ms. Kettle? Takes one to see one . . . or we all see the world through the prism of our own personal experience, once again. “Conspiracy everywhere!”
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Gee bubble logic, where have I heard that kinda attempted confirmation logic before Ms. Kettle? Takes one to see one . . . or we all see the world through the prism of our own personal experience, once again. “Conspiracy everywhere!”
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Conspiracy theories no....it's basic political realities right now....talk about bubble logic....you bubbleheads can't even see what's going on right in front of your nose....again, as I've told dad4 before, because you guys like to see the world as you want it to be, instead of how it really is.....it's why your utopian pipe dreams always come crashing down.
 
Grace T. said:
Conspiracy theories no....it's basic political realities right now....talk about bubble logic....you bubbleheads can't even see what's going on right in front of your nose....again, as I've told dad4 before, because you guys like to see the world as you want it to be, instead of how it really is.....it's why your utopian pipe dreams always come crashing down.
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We aren’t the ones bitching about how badly the children are being treated.
 
GLIMMERS OF SANITY: Top L.A. Democrat: We’re beginning to lose the trust of the people by keeping our mask mandate in place.


Hahn couldn’t help noticing that the county’s mask mandate was ignored by, uh, pretty much everyone at the Super Bowl held in L.A. this Sunday. So she’s been thinking.
And where her thoughts have led her is to the thankless position below. The COVID hawks to her left will spaz out and call her the Grim Reaper for “surrendering” to the Trumpist demand to drop precautions while the COVID doves to her right are destined to sneer, “Beginning to lose the trust of the people?”
Baby steps, though, right? An influential L.A. pol tilting against masks is a nice sign of progress towards post-pandemic normalcy.
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But she’ll still have to face the wrath of the Mask Karens (aka dad and others), who need some serious pushback and mockery.


The Chinese Olympics that nobody is watching feature athletes getting served by people in hazmat suits. Meanwhile, SoFi stadium gathered over 70,000 fans for the big game, and the cameras panning the vast crowd showed the spectators to be almost entirely maskless.

This was the end of the pandemic in the United States — or at least the primary signal that, as a culture, we are ready for the end…

Are you paying attention dad?

That a football game could “end” a pandemic may seem absurd — what does it have to do with the spread, with the facts of the disease and the latest variants, or with the rate of vaccine uptake? But cultures never make sense as pure calculations about inputs and outputs. Ultimately, we make a collective cultural decision about whether we are in a state of emergency or not. A big, raucous crowd of unmasked fans at a football game in America is normal. Broadcasting that game — and studiously refusing to reference or mention the pandemic — is a giant flashing sign. You probably have moved on or are about to move on. We’re moving on, too.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Evidently, that is all you are capable of hearing. Your willingness to promote authoritarianism and dismiss anything else as insignificant as long as it is accompanied by mask restrictions for adults and forced vaccinations is astoundingly myopic given the state our country is in right now. Wake the fuck up!
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I am quite awake and clear eyed. The anti-vax adults have given us two covid waves at this point. Enough is enough.

The individual right to decline medication does not imply a right to head down to the local bar and spread disease. Someone wants to be unvaccinated at home or outdoors? No problem.

But if that person wants to hang out indoors with large numbers of other people, then they need to respect the health of those other people- even the ones who are on immunosuppressants. Based on what we know so far, that means getting a vaccine.
 
Grace T. said:
This is the dumbest of the covidian talking points. We have an entire industry based on people talking about how their parents messed them up growing up. We know mental health hospitalizations and suicide attempts have had spikes throughout all this. We know that there’s speech delay and learning loss going on. There’s going to be an ongoing price to pay for this in the future.
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That's what's great about Husker, he always says something to prove our point. "Kids are resilient" is the grasping at straws to support the left's narrative that I mentioned before. Another case of lack of self awareness.

I do hope that kids are resilient and the Covid restrictions just become a vague memory. Unfortunately, for some kids its already too late.

dad4 said:
Not honest about intentions:

People complain about kid masking because they really want restrictions on adults to go away.

The attempt to co-opt the school board recall is particularly rich. That recall was led and funded by the Chinese community. They didn't do it because they hated masks.
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That's a comical rationalization and facts not in evidence. If that were true we wouldn't see parents screaming even louder now to unmask kids, now that adults don't have to wear a mask. I've said many times, mask adults, whatever. I'd happily wear a mask in public indoors if we dropped the mask mandates on kids. The fact that you have to mischaracterize someone else's argument to make your argument more plausible is more evidence of how weak your position is.
 
watfly said:
That's what's great about Husker, he always says something to prove our point. "Kids are resilient" is the grasping at straws to support the left's narrative that I mentioned before. Another case of lack of self awareness.
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He's just trolling for chuckles, not trying to actually make any point really. It's what they do. The gaslighting is exhibit A.
 
dad4 said:
The individual right to decline medication does not imply a right to head down to the local bar and spread disease
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Sorry pal.

People go out all the time with various viruses/disease. Flu being one of them.

What we do and will do with covid is just live with at as part of our daily lives.

We will not and the world will not continue to do the silly things we have done for the past 2 yrs much longer.

What you keep advocating is zero covid.
 
dad4 said:
The anti-vax adults have given us two covid waves at this point. Enough is enough.
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"A bogeyman is someone whose ideas or actions are disapproved of by some people, and who is described by them as evil or unpleasant in order to make other people afraid."
 
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