Vaccine

Grace T. said:
Potential vaccine mandate in California....

justthenews.com

California considers law to require all workers to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19

Democratic legislation would require employees and independent contractors to show proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 unless the employee obtains an exemption for a medical reason, disability or “sincerely held religious belief.”
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No real shock that an Oakland progressive supports a workplace vaccine mandate. This will be popular in her district.

The interesting part is the business support.
 
dad4 said:
The interesting part is the business support.
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Just curious, what makes that interesting?

Most that run businesses are anti-lockdown (certain industries excepted), but pro vaccination in the workplace. They may be anti-mandate in terms of liability, but certainly prefer a safe and stable workforce. So if the municipality wants to reduce the liability factor, why wouldn’t there be support?
 
N00B said:
Just curious, what makes that interesting?

Most that run businesses are anti-lockdown (certain industries excepted), but pro vaccination in the workplace. They may be anti-mandate in terms of liability, but certainly prefer a safe and stable workforce. So if the municipality wants to reduce the liability factor, why wouldn’t there be support?
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Interesting because the business support is what gives it a chance of becoming law. State law, not just municipal.

Agree that it is not a surprise, as you explained.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Looks like kids in this neck of the woods are tired of masks. There's no truth to the rumor that Newsome trolled the thread with, "Been doing that for over a year." and posted his French Laundry pics.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1491996868829614081
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Has to be staged, remember "kids don't mind masks" and according to NY governor it's no different than putting on shoes. I mean if Kamala can use child actors...turn about is fair play.
 
thirteenknots said:
The interesting part will be the LIABILITY lawsuits and criminal trials!
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The Bay is building a new court house that should be ready by 2023. Place is packed. United is running non stop flights everyday. We need to show forgiveness and compassion. Forgive thy self first with no judgement, show yourself all the compassion and mulligans you need. After that, go and love everyone. We will become one magnet of love! Now is not the time to seek revenge through fear. Revenge with love is the only way. Justice is coming for those who cheated and lied and are now trying to run from the TRUTH. The TRUTH is here!. Stay peaceful folks.
 
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Fox News: Lawyers for the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia, a filing from Special Counsel John Durham says.
 
Grace T. said:
Guess they weren't able to enforce the mask mandate at the superbowl despite handing out the free KN95 masks. Horrible optics of elite politicians (including the mayor), actors, and sports figures without masks while kids have to go to school masked the next day.
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It’s unfortunate. Xi and Putin argue that many people are incapable of doing the right thing unless forced to do so, and Team Virus is determined to prove them correct.

We know Americans are dying of covid. We know masks work. We know vaccines work. But, somehow, many adults in this country won’t do either.

Even Canada managed better than we did. About a third as many deaths per capita as US. I guess they must be an autocracy like Japan or Taiwan.
 
dad4 said:
It’s unfortunate. Xi and Putin argue that many people are incapable of doing the right thing unless forced to do so, and Team Virus is determined to prove them correct.

We know Americans are dying of covid. We know masks work. We know vaccines work. But, somehow, many adults in this country won’t do either.

Even Canada managed better than we did. About a third as many deaths per capita as US. I guess they must be an autocracy like Japan or Taiwan.
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Do Sweden now.
 
dad4 said:
It’s unfortunate. Xi and Putin argue that many people are incapable of doing the right thing unless forced to do so, and Team Virus is determined to prove them correct.

We know Americans are dying of covid. We know masks work. We know vaccines work. But, somehow, many adults in this country won’t do either.

Even Canada managed better than we did. About a third as many deaths per capita as US. I guess they must be an autocracy like Japan or Taiwan.
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p.s. Russia has been one of the worst in both masking and vaccine uptick. My son follows "Bald and Bankrupt" religiously on youtube. Not a Russian mask to be seen.

Supposedly attendees at the superbowl were vaxxed or tested. Reports of checks though were spotty at best.
 
Grace T. said:
Do Sweden now.
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73% vaccination rate in Sweden. Not great, but better than USA, with 65%. And far better than places like Mississippi, with a 50% vaccination rate.

Not surprisingly, they also have fewer deaths per capita. 1.62 deaths per thousand. USA is at 2.76. Mississippi is at 3.88

Sweden’s “trust the people” policy is paired with people trying to do the right thing. It isn’t some anti-vax, anti-mask utopia. They actually got their shots.

I’d do the same for masking and dinner parties, but I don’t know how to gather accurate data on those. Self reported numbers cannot be compared between cultures.
 
dad4 said:
73% vaccination rate in Sweden. Not great, but better than USA, with 65%. And far better than places like Mississippi, with a 50% vaccination rate.

Not surprisingly, they also have fewer deaths per capita. 1.62 deaths per thousand. USA is at 2.76. Mississippi is at 3.88

Sweden’s “trust the people” policy is paired with people trying to do the right thing. It isn’t some anti-vax, anti-mask utopia. They actually got their shots.

I’d do the same for masking and dinner parties, but I don’t know how to gather accurate data on those. Self reported numbers cannot be compared between cultures.
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