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Unfortunately, that bridge (ha ha) has been crossed when they didn't do anything about the Port of Oakland, or any of the other shenanigans of the last 2 years. Once those norms have been shattered, it is awfully hard to rebuild them....you can't put the genie back into the bottle.

Which one-day Port of Oakland shutdown are we talking about there? 2001? 2003? 2011? 2015? 2020?
 
The delays in medical procedures were caused by the need to care for all the covid patients.

That’s an argument for more covid containment measures, not less.
your comment is Circa summer 2020. Hospitals systems, clinics, offices, networks have figured out how to walk and chew gum. Unfortunately hospital systems and networks can do their own thing. AZ, TX, FL, WA, and others have been able to do both for some time. Not in an unfettered manner, but screenings/treatment have continued.

You need to update your information or maybe adjust your info stream.
 
Mischaracterizing again. While not in favor of masks, I said whatever you want to do with adults is one thing, but f'ing with kids is straight up wrong.

You can't take the high road here, you are still supporting masks for children only a few pages ago, saying something to the effect that teachers shouldn't have to work in front of 30 unmasked kids.
Kids are living Petri dishes, germ factories, bacteria hosts, why should they be exempt?
 
Authoritarianism and civility? I wonder how that is going to work out?
Suppose I dump 30 tons of turnips on the 405, and unfurl a banner that says “Mandate Vaccinations Now!!!!”

Is this a peaceful protest and within my rights? Of course not. If I did that, I’d be a self centered asshat who thinks he has a right to delay dinner for a million other people.

The trucker convoy and blm rioters? Self centered asshats. Asshats with a cause, but asshats.
 
Kids are living Petri dishes, germ factories, bacteria hosts, why should they be exempt?

Some of the psychological profiles of trolls show that they do it because they think it's funny.

This coming from you, and this site, is pretty fun. :p :p :p :p :p :p

You are getting better at the comedy. Espola has a rival now. :p:p:p:p:p:p
 
Which one-day Port of Oakland shutdown are we talking about there? 2001? 2003? 2011? 2015? 2020?
Why would I exempt any of them?

Not sure you want to use the “only one day” excuse. Summer 2020 had plenty of leftist riots which lasted longer than a day.
 
Why would I exempt any of them?

Not sure you want to use the “only one day” excuse. Summer 2020 had plenty of leftist riots which lasted longer than a day.

If I were an anti-union cynic, I would theorize that the Teamsters shut down the port any time they want a 3-day weekend.
 
The delays in medical procedures were caused by the need to care for all the covid patients.

That’s an argument for more covid containment measures, not less.
Funny how your argument always goes towards more restrictions despite them not working.

Also in most places the hospitals were not overwhelmed. Politicians however forced them to delay treatments...which is another reason to get rid of the fools in charge and their failed policies.
 
Funny how your argument always goes towards more restrictions despite them not working.

Also in most places the hospitals were not overwhelmed. Politicians however forced them to delay treatments...which is another reason to get rid of the fools in charge and their failed policies.

Politicians forced them to delay treatments? How did that work?
 
You have me at an informational disadvantage since I don't read the same newsy sites you do. What do you suppose is in there?

maybe nothing , but not sure I’m just going blindly take this committee at face value

also, Kinzinger came out early Jan and said they interviewed Epps in November , then shortly after that they said they were going interview him on 1/21

so what was the November interview with Epps?

I also feel like if this committee is so vital to our democracy, televise it all , everything
 
The problem with politifact and most of the press is they are incurious.


Epps said he didn't have ties to the FBI. The press, the committee, etc have not done investigation to confirm that. They are simply taking his word for it. And the press reports it as theory debunked.

So we really don't know if he is or isn't tied to the FBI.

Imagine a trial where someone is on trial for murder. And politifact or the press says theory debunked...and their proof is the guy being investigated or interviewed simply said he didn't do it.

Is that the standard? It is farcical.

I am not making a claim he is or isn't.

But going by the word of the guy without actually investigating any ties means we still don't know. Nothing has been debunked.
 
If you say so. And I’m sure you also think that the blm activists who closed down the Port of Oakland aren’t anti-government radicals. They just want an end to the pointless persecution of young men in their communities.

Look, if right wing people of strong opinion have a right to shut down public infrastructure, then left wing people of strong opinion also have the right to shut down public infrastructure. That path gives you France and 30 tons of turnips on the expressway.

No thanks. I prefer civility.
BLM riots were burning biz, attacking cops, etc.

The people in Canada...not doing any of that.

I don't like BLM because all lives matter. However if they had protested without attacking cops, looting stores, burning buildings, I would not have had any real issue with them.

The Canadian protestors? Rather civil.
 
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