Vaccine

[soccersc]

Sooo kids suffer for the sake of adults who can’t/won’t take care of themselves?

Maybe a health mandate is in order over masking kids.

What was that obesity factor amongst severe Covid affects again?

@dad4 helps me understand how backwards so of those that oppose normalcy. Obese people are a big problem with covid

People with obesity are 46% more at risk of getting Covid-19, according to a study from August. It found that they are also more at risk of getting really sick, facing a 113% higher chance of being hospitalized, a 74% higher risk of needing to be treated in the ICU and -- perhaps most troubling of all -- a 48% increased risk of death. https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/03/health/covid-weight-loss-wellness/index.html

Old people I can understand, they can't help being old, but really 113% higher chance of being hospitalized for being Obese and we are trying to vaccinate ALL children and have them wear mask all day for people who failed to take care of themselves....that's ridiculous and so unfair for the kids...I really don't get how people like @dad4 can actually advocate for that

 

[soccersc]

I think mask restrictions in CA will be done by May 01, and will come back with the next variant- if one manages to grow here.

Masks work just fine if you wear them. Mask mandates that you ignore every time you have friends over? That doesn’t work so well.

There will be another variant, it's inevitable. So, with that premise, you would be alright with kids continuing to wear mask at school forever? They have already messed up so many kids up by going virtual last year, now you want teachers and kids to cover their face every time they are in school? Think deeply about that, you really think that will not affect kids in any way?

 

[thirteenknots]

I am really trying to wrap my head around why the persistence on mandating a Covid vaccine???? This is exactly how I feel "but why should their personal decision to take that risk arouse so much angst among those who are safely vaccinated? "

So, then I started to try and think what could possibly be reasons government wants vaccination so bad. We know it doesn't stop the spread, so the only other defense I can imagine is covid is filling up the ICU's. So looking at ICUs capacity during the middle of January was around 30% funny thing is, it is very difficult to find what the other 70% of patients include. Dyspnea seems to be the top ICU admitter, but that covers so many conditions it is hard to quantify.

Here is the most interesting fact....In 2019 Influenza A took up 34% of ICUs and in 2018 there was an article in the LA Times "Flu drives hospitals into warzone conditions"....what? They actually have pictures of triage tents set up.....So if ICU's have been in the same situation before and there has never been a Flu vaccine mandate, then why now? I really don't get how the government can continue these mandates, Science just doesn't support it????? Please help!

California hospitals look like a flu 'war zone'

Several hospitals in Southern California have set up emergency tents in their parking lots to treat the influx of flu patients as this year's deadly strand infects thousands.

www.dailymail.co.uk

California hospitals face a 'war zone' of flu patients — and are setting up tents to treat them

California hospitals have had to scramble for more space and staff to keep up with the high numbers of patients showing up in the ER sick with a deadly strain of the flu.

www.latimes.com

ICU Admission and Mortality during Flu Season - Contemporary Approaches to Influenza A and B

Are you confident of your ability to quickly identify hospitalized flu patients at risk for a poor outcome?

www.medpagetoday.com

The Clues are right there for to see.

SARS-COVID 2 -19 was a tool used to:
1. Shut down the vibrant Trump admin USA economy that booming.
2. Covertly steal an election thru drop boxes/mail in ballots/midnight dumps.
3. Inject EVERY human on the planet with a traceable harmful substance.
( Think #3 is a joke, see/read below. )



graphenes_health_effects_summarised_in_new_guide_48si8_en.pdf (europa.eu)

European Heath Report on GO effects on Humans.

NIOSHTIC-2 Publications Search - 20041340 - Graphene oxide, but not fullerenes,
targets immunoproteasomes and suppresses antigen presentation by dendritic cells. (cdc.gov)

 

[dad4]

Sooo kids suffer for the sake of adults who can’t/won’t take care of themselves?

Maybe a health mandate is in order over masking kids.

What was that obesity factor amongst severe Covid affects again?

Adults who won’t take care of themselves are absolutely the problem. We’d have a lot less pressure on kids if remaining adults would mask up, get vaccinated, and lose some weight.

 

[espola]

I think mask restrictions in CA will be done by May 01, and will come back with the next variant- if one manages to grow here.

Masks work just fine if you wear them. Mask mandates that you ignore every time you have friends over? That doesn’t work so well.

I think it was over a year ago that I posted that masks work and mandates don't.

 

[thirteenknots]

Edit:

The Clues are right there for all to see.

 

[thirteenknots]

Adults who won’t take care of themselves are absolutely the problem. We’d have a lot less pressure on kids if remaining adults would mask up, get vaccinated, and lose some weight.

Wow. I cannot believe you posted that.

 

[espola]

Edit:

The Clues are right there for all to see.

Didn't help.

 

[thirteenknots]

I think it was over a year ago that I posted that masks work and mandates don't.

Hey Government Schill Adam Espola Schiff, go read some more Sal Alinsky.

 

[thirteenknots]

Didn't help.

It did.

The Truth hurts.

 

[Soccer Bum 06]

@dad4 helps me understand how backwards so of those that oppose normalcy. Obese people are a big problem with covid

People with obesity are 46% more at risk of getting Covid-19, according to a study from August. It found that they are also more at risk of getting really sick, facing a 113% higher chance of being hospitalized, a 74% higher risk of needing to be treated in the ICU and -- perhaps most troubling of all -- a 48% increased risk of death. https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/03/health/covid-weight-loss-wellness/index.html

Old people I can understand, they can't help being old, but really 113% higher chance of being hospitalized for being Obese and we are trying to vaccinate ALL children and have them wear mask all day for people who failed to take care of themselves....that's ridiculous and so unfair for the kids...I really don't get how people like @dad4 can actually advocate for that

I can solve all public teachers concerns around safety with one simple solution. Provide parents with school choice vouchers giving them the freedom to pick the best education pathway for their children. Before you know it the need for public school, public school teachers and their unions will be non-existent. Now public school teachers who feel so much risk to face a child without a mask can find a new calling and those who want to continue work in education can with a private institution. My guess is if parents had a choice and given back their tax dollars to spend on the best education for their children they wouldn’t pick a public school that barely meets standards of learning and shrouds every subject in race.

 

[Soccermaverick]

The Clues are right there for to see.

SARS-COVID 2 -19 was a tool used to:
1. Shut down the vibrant Trump admin USA economy that booming.
2. Covertly steal an election thru drop boxes/mail in ballots/midnight dumps.
3. Inject EVERY human on the planet with a traceable harmful substance.
( Think #3 is a joke, see/read below. )

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graphenes_health_effects_summarised_in_new_guide_48si8_en.pdf (europa.eu)

European Heath Report on GO effects on Humans.

NIOSHTIC-2 Publications Search - 20041340 - Graphene oxide, but not fullerenes,
targets immunoproteasomes and suppresses antigen presentation by dendritic cells. (cdc.gov)

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Video of Your mom is asking you to pick up some drinks on the way home

https://imgur.com/a/TrAe5sr

 

[watfly]

How many people in other professions are required to work in the same room as 30 unmasked coworkers?

Teachers already catch every single cold and flu because parents insist on sending sick kids to school. That’s enough. Don’t expect them to rise up and demand that the people in their workspace be permitted to ignore public health guidance.

So we put the burden on children and not adults...thats just fucked up...no two ways about.

 

[soccersc]

I can solve all public teachers concerns around safety with one simple solution. Provide parents with school choice vouchers giving them the freedom to pick the best education pathway for their children. Before you know it the need for public school, public school teachers and their unions will be non-existent. Now public school teachers who feel so much risk to face a child without a mask can find a new calling and those who want to continue work in education can with a private institution. My guess is if parents had a choice and given back their tax dollars to spend on the best education for their children they wouldn’t pick a public school that barely meets standards of learning and shrouds every subject in race.

That's so true!!!!!

 

[soccersc]

I think mask restrictions in CA will be done by May 01, and will come back with the next variant- if one manages to grow here.

Masks work just fine if you wear them. Mask mandates that you ignore every time you have friends over? That doesn’t work so well.

Even CNN is starting to realize mask aren't needed. @dad4 you are still holding the line...thata boy

CNN medical analyst supports Democrat-led states dropping school mask mandates: 'The science has changed'

CNN medical analyst Dr. Leana Wen appeared to change her tune on the implementation of government imposed coronavirus restrictions, contrasting her previous support for restrictions that many felt were unnecessary or excessive.

www.foxnews.com

 

[dad4]

So we put the burden on children and not adults...thats just fucked up...no two ways about.

We agree it is f’ed up. We just don’t agree what it would mean for adults to step up and shoulder their burden.

I don’t see how an unmasked or unvaccinated adult has any right to point fingers about the burdens on kids. There is something they could to to take part of that burden, and they are not doing it.

 

[NorCalDad]

I can solve all public teachers concerns around safety with one simple solution. Provide parents with school choice vouchers giving them the freedom to pick the best education pathway for their children. Before you know it the need for public school, public school teachers and their unions will be non-existent. Now public school teachers who feel so much risk to face a child without a mask can find a new calling and those who want to continue work in education can with a private institution. My guess is if parents had a choice and given back their tax dollars to spend on the best education for their children they wouldn’t pick a public school that barely meets standards of learning and shrouds every subject in race.

Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any dumber....

 

[espola]

I can solve all public teachers concerns around safety with one simple solution. Provide parents with school choice vouchers giving them the freedom to pick the best education pathway for their children. Before you know it the need for public school, public school teachers and their unions will be non-existent. Now public school teachers who feel so much risk to face a child without a mask can find a new calling and those who want to continue work in education can with a private institution. My guess is if parents had a choice and given back their tax dollars to spend on the best education for their children they wouldn’t pick a public school that barely meets standards of learning and shrouds every subject in race.

Race? You mean like they teach math with those Arabic numerals and Hindu zero?

 

[watfly]

Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any dumber....

What's dumb about it? Hyperbolic maybe, but not dumb. I'm 100% in favor of school vouchers. My kids went to an elementary school in SDUSD, it was a magnet school (for PE of all things) so kids could choice in. So many kids choiced in from shitty schools that the district board member from the shitty schools complained and got our schools magnet taken away. So instead of stepping up and fixing their shitty schools they punished our school. That's our California public schools system.

 

[Grace T.]

We agree it is f’ed up. We just don’t agree what it would mean for adults to step up and shoulder their burden.

I don’t see how an unmasked or unvaccinated adult has any right to point fingers about the burdens on kids. There is something they could to to take part of that burden, and they are not doing it.

What burden is it exactly they need to take on? The teachers have been offered vaccines and boosters. So have the parents. Do you believe in vaccination? What's the issue? Why are we punishing kids for adults who refuse to protect themselves (excluding of course those who already have natural immunity)? Or are you still clinging to zero covid?

 

[watfly]

We agree it is f’ed up. We just don’t agree what it would mean for adults to step up and shoulder their burden.

I don’t see how an unmasked or unvaccinated adult has any right to point fingers about the burdens on kids. There is something they could to to take part of that burden, and they are not doing it.

Fascinating rationalization.