ODP in California

Buzz Cook said:
Re: the ‘05 girls…only one from Cal Sourh (CS)… Samantha Sanchez plays for MVLA in the bay area…and is incorrectly noted as being from Cal South. Again, my original point is that you have six age groups heading to Florida for the ODP NTC, and there’s only one girl from Southern California….period. If I counted correctly there’s damn near 20 from Florida. Are you telling me that’s the disparity between talent found in both regions? Apparently somebody from Cal South pissed people off…or it really makes you wonder who the hell is doing the evaluating?
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Check this out Buzz. My dd old Doc and coach, at her old club, told her and all the US Youth National Championship players on her team not to go to Ojai because ODP is a joke and the Girls Development Academy is now the "FDA" so to speak for the Youth National Team selection process. We used to have the kiddos go from ODP to the YNT to the WNT. Then in one big swoop, ECNL and ODP was regulated to shit soccer because GDA was now the top league and held the power and the control to "The List." It's the title of my book I'm writing. It went to Club & Doc and then if play nice and obey the Doc mandates, you can make his list, which he then picks for The List. The Doc for my dd, who happen to also run the United States Youth Soccer Training Center as well, told all the players at the club not to go Ojai and you better not get injured if you go. He said, "ODP is like HSS. Players get hurt and it's all kickball. US Soccer, he said is out lawing kickball style that the US plays and only possession will be allowed. Plus, the US Scouts are all over at GDA now." You know what the fuck happen Buzz? The ODP scouts went to the GDA and put on US Soccer shirts. I kid you not and that was when the light turned on and I knew I got snake oiled. Try rubbing that shit off your face after it get's in your eyes. I watched all this happen to the kids. Poor players, right? Plus, parents get their chains yanked with this bullshit. Let's clean it up men and let's have real promotion without pay to play. BTW, I told the Doc & Coach my dd has waited her whole life to get in that van and try her luck against the best of the best of the best. Long story, no one from that club was going to be picked so most did not go. My dd went and broke her wrist, so the punk Doc thought he was right about injuries at Ojai. The selection process is bias at best. Socal soccer turf war. This whole BS needs to blown up and something fair and balance needs to come into play.
 
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Ellejustus said:
Check this out Buzz. My dd old Doc and coach, at her old club, told her and all the US Youth National Championship players on her team not to go to Ojai because ODP is a joke and the Girls Development Academy is now the "FDA" so to speak for the National Team selection process. In one big swoop, ECNL and ODP was regulated to shit soccer because GDA was now the top league and held the power and the control to "The List." It's the title of my book I'm writing. The Doc for my dd, who happen to also run the United States Youth Soccer Training Center as well, told all the players at the club not to go Ojai and you better not get injured if you go. He said, "ODP is like HSS. Players get hurt and it's all kickball. US Soccer, he said is out lawing kickball style that the US plays and only possession will be allowed. Plus, the US Scouts are all over at GDA now." You know what the fuck happen Buzz? The ODP scouts went to the GDA and put on US Soccer shirts on. I kid you not and that was when the light turned on and I knew I got snake oiled. Try rubbing that shit off your face after it get's in your eyes. I watched all this happen to the kids. Poor players, right? Plus, parents get their chains yanked with this bullshit. Let's clean it up men and let's have real promotion without pay to play. BTW, I told the Doc & Coach my dd has waited her whole life to get in that van and try her luck against the best of the best of the best. Long story, no one from that club was going to be picked so most did not go. My dd went and broke her wrist so the punk Doc thought he was right about injuries at Ojai. The selection process is bias at best. Socal soccer turf war. This whole BS needs to blown up and something fair and balance needs to come into play.
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Here you go again demanding free handouts. You may as well be whining about how unfair it is to pay for piano lessons, equestrian or to own a Ferrari. High quality youth soccer training costs money, and that is how it is.
 
GoldenGate said:
Just because you're willing to mooch off public assistance for the rest of your life does not mean that club DOCs and coaches are willing to do so.
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Ok Doctor GG, thanks for the put down again. This Doc, Tad, is one of the few Docs I will hold up in high regard. Honest, open and transparent. He taught my dd for two years and if that GDA league never formed and the age change never changed, she would have been in safe place until this year. But no, dad and dd got snake oiled. He also is the Founder of ODP and the Founder of the original U15 YNT. Thank you Coach Tad for teaching my dd the four areas of soccer. I will say the mental aspects regarding politics and pay to play is way more insane then we both ever imagined. GG, the things other Docs said about this kind and honest man is insane and wrong as well and I might just share the emails. It's scik actually and sad to go after a man who gave so much to the girls game. Love you Tad :)

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Ellejustus said:
Ok Doctor GG, thanks for the put down again. This Doc, Tad, is one of the few Docs I will hold up in high regard. Honest, open and transparent. He taught my dd for two years and if that GDA league never formed and the age change never changed, she would have been in safe place until this year. But no, dad and dd got snake oiled. He also is the Founder of ODP and the Founder of the original U15 YNT. Thank you Coach Tad for teaching my dd the four areas of soccer. I will say the mental aspects regarding politics and pay to play is way more insane then we both ever imagined. GG, the things other Docs said about this kind and honest man is insane and wrong as well and I might just share the emails. It's scik actually and sad to go after a man who gave so much to the girls game. Love you Tad :)

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It is not GDA's fault that things did not work out for you. It is your fault. You burned bridges with college coaches when your kid was in middle school when you told them to stick it because she was going pro right out of HS. You burned bridges with clubs to chase fake "national championships" for a twelve year old girl for the sake of your own ego. You apparently bailed on the one decent coach your kid ever had because you were chasing free handouts. And you won't support your own family financially. These are all decisions that you made. Not US Soccer. Not other clubs. Not other coaches. You. You spent many years making it very clear to every single person around you that you are cancer, and it is a real shame to the extent your behavior impacts your child's future.
 
GoldenGate said:
It is not GDA's fault that things did not work out for you. It is your fault. You burned bridges with college coaches when your kid was in middle school when you told them to stick it because she was going pro right out of HS. You burned bridges with clubs. You apparently US Soccer. Not other clubs. Not other coaches. You.
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Buzz Cook said:
Re: the ‘05 girls…only one from Cal Sourh (CS)… Samantha Sanchez plays for MVLA in the bay area…and is incorrectly noted as being from Cal South. Again, my original point is that you have six age groups heading to Florida for the ODP NTC, and there’s only one girl from Southern California….period. If I counted correctly there’s damn near 20 from Florida. Are you telling me that’s the disparity between talent found in both regions? Apparently somebody from Cal South pissed people off…or it really makes you wonder who the hell is doing the evaluating?
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Actually this is the one that plays for Arsenal ECNL. You see, I was actually there and my kid was actually part of this group. The problem I saw was that the West Region had less kids chosen this year from Cal South, thus less were competing for a chance at the NTC. I believe Washington had the largest number of players chosen at the 05 group for the West Region team with 5 players. All the Washington girls were from ECNL.

Understand no selection system is perfect, many kids slip through the cracks. Some might make it and you wonder how. I will say there were only 5 ECNL teams represented from So Cal, making up about 2/3 of the players, in the past it might have been 8 teams and 90% of the players. Note I'm only talking about the 05's as I had first hand knowledge of these players.

I did notice my daughter played about average in Florida during her 3 games while she played really well in Arizona. She didn't have many practices or games with the Florida team while she had more practices and playing time with the team that went to Arizona. Jet lag, more comfortable, experience, who knows why the one was much better than the other. But understand when you have just a few games to impress, you can end up with different results. I can understand Florida girls doing better in Florida.
 
In one of the age groups, there were 0 ECNL players from San Diego Surf, HB Koge, Beach, Blues, etc…the top clubs and players. They weren’t on the original ODP list for tryouts. My guess is that those clubs don’t view ODP as valuable otherwise they would be recommending all of the top players right and left. At least in the age groups I am familiar with, these weren’t the top players. So, in response, it makes sense they wouldn’t be selected for the final ODP team (still a little surprising, but not a total shock).
 
WatchthemPlay said:
In one of the age groups, there were 0 ECNL players from San Diego Surf, HB Koge, Beach, Blues, etc…the top clubs and players. They weren’t on the original ODP list for tryouts. My guess is that those clubs don’t view ODP as valuable otherwise they would be recommending all of the top players right and left. At least in the age groups I am familiar with, these weren’t the top players. So, in response, it makes sense they wouldn’t be selected for the final ODP team (still a little surprising, but not a total shock).
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Do you think the ODP or the YNT should just go directly to the kid and parent? Or, should they get "permission" by the Doc? My dd Doc 100% said you best better not go. It was crazy times because the age changed and all the Docs were at Ojai recruiting all the top 04 goats. I was shocked to be honest. ODP scout yanking it up with the Docs about, I don;t what, but it was sure was fun to see my kid compete with Socals finest.
 
Imo, there were just not hardly any CA girls who went down to FL for the Interregional in Nov. We moved from CA to the midwest and the only thing outside of club team is ODP. CA has a leg up to have PDP, and feel especially in NorCal a larger support by the clubs for it. I do know a few from our old club had got invites to go to the interregional, but chose not to go. So if they miss that they dont get to NTC.
 
It's been a while since my kid's been in the program(she's got two youth natty rings), but if they are staffed the same way they were 6-7 years ago, its a great way to "network". Many of the coaches involved are also involved in college programs and more and that contact is worth a lot!
 
gkrent said:
It's been a while since my kid's been in the program(she's got two youth natty rings), but if they are staffed the same way they were 6-7 years ago, its a great way to "network". Many of the coaches involved are also involved in college programs and more and that contact is worth a lot!
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If I recall correctly a coach or two was from the junior college level and one was D1. The rest were club coaches I'd never heard of before.
 
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