Vaccine

what-happened said:
You are quite correct - happens at both ends of the candle. At least Rogan doesn't advocate for one or the other. Of course he has opinions, everyone does. He presents to you information so you can make a decision. Nice to have choices. Funny that all of the "quacks" he's had on his show are fully vaccinated. I haven't seen/heard most of his guests but I haven't seen where anyone has said don't get vaccinated if you are vulnerable. Maybe I'm wrong. This mass hysteria over Rogan is just generating more followers - people discovering that he has guests that provide value added beyond vaccine hysteria. Spotify is grinning ear to ear.
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“Mass hysteria”? Lol! Pointing out a con man or a snake oil salesman is hardly hysteria. There are many of those on the right, the ones who attempt such things on the left get ferreted out quickly, see Micheal Avanatti.
 
watfly said:
So what would you recommend? Censorship of opinion speech? Disclaimers or labeling on these shows? If so, who would determine what qualifies as half-truths and opinion...Tipper Gore?

Keep in mind that the vaccine was sold as stopping infection and ending the pandemic by the President, some "mainstream" pundits and many in the scientific community. So there has been some half-truths involved with it. How should we handle that? Is it OK to lie in the name of "caution"?

I think you're wanting to fix stupid, which I can appreciate, but I lean more to Darwin doing that than our government.
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Not suggesting a thing. Just pointing out the hypocrisy and stupidity of those citing his “revelations”.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
“Mass hysteria”? Lol! Pointing out a con man or a snake oil salesman is hardly hysteria. There are many of those on the right, the ones who attempt such things on the left get ferreted out quickly, see Micheal Avanatti.
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terrible example ,Avenatti was 86”d because of his legal issues . Many people mentioned he was a total grifter , low life from the start , while CNN was wondering if he was a viable presidential candidate

Avenatti was not ferreted out quickly
 
Hüsker Dü said:
“Mass hysteria”? Lol! Pointing out a con man or a snake oil salesman is hardly hysteria. There are many of those on the right, the ones who attempt such things on the left get ferreted out quickly, see Micheal Avanatti.
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Your obsession with Rogan is quite interesting. What exactly is he selling "from the right"? Is he a fringy right wing kinda guy? I thought he was: pro weed, pro choice, pro obama, pro clinton, pro more government spending on stuff for people? Sounds pretty traditional leftie to me. I kinda miss those traditional lefties.

I guess now he's a crazy right winger because he allows people on his show who aren't 100% advocating for mass vaccination, crazy mandates, lockdowns.? Craziness! To think that anyone would question government overeach is just nuts!
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Not suggesting a thing. Just pointing out the hypocrisy and stupidity of those citing his “revelations”.
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Weird that when others point out hypocrisy and stupidity, you claim its whining. And in contrast to you, others are pointing out solutions. At least we all have the choice not to listen to Rogan and his guest opinions and line his pockets. You have to track Rogan down to listen to his opinions whereas you could accidently turn on the wrong channel and listen to Joy Reid spew racist comments.
 
what-happened said:
Your obsession with Rogan is quite interesting. What exactly is he selling "from the right"? Is he a fringy right wing kinda guy? I thought he was: pro weed, pro choice, pro obama, pro clinton, pro more government spending on stuff for people? Sounds pretty traditional leftie to me. I kinda miss those traditional lefties.

I guess now he's a crazy right winger because he allows people on his show who aren't 100% advocating for mass vaccination, crazy mandates, lockdowns.? Craziness! To think that anyone would question government overeach is just nuts!
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watfly said:
Weird that when others point out hypocrisy and stupidity, you claim its whining. And in contrast to you, others are pointing out solutions. At least we all have the choice not to listen to Rogan and his guest opinions and line his pockets. You have to track Rogan down to listen to his opinions whereas you could accidently turn on the wrong channel and listen to Joy Reid spew racist comments.
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We all see the world through the prism of our own personal experience.
 
watfly said:
Weird that when others point out hypocrisy and stupidity, you claim its whining. And in contrast to you, others are pointing out solutions. At least we all have the choice not to listen to Rogan and his guest opinions and line his pockets. You have to track Rogan down to listen to his opinions whereas you could accidently turn on the wrong channel and listen to Joy Reid spew racist comments.
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I also find it interesting you would characterize Joy Reid pointing out what she sees as discrepancies, hypocrisies and inconsistencies in the way people of color have been and are treated as “racist”? Again pointing things out that aren’t right isn’t some hysteria or divisive crime against humanity. . . but it may just be illuminating such.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
I also find it interesting you would characterize Joy Reid pointing out what she sees as discrepancies, hypocrisies and inconsistencies in the way people of color have been and are treated as “racist”? Again pointing things out that aren’t right isn’t some hysteria or divisive crime against humanity. . . but it may just be illuminating such.
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If that was what she was actually doing I would agree with you. I believe that fighting racism with racism is not the appropriate or productive road to go down, but obviously your prism is different than mine.
 
watfly said:
If that was what she was actually doing I would agree with you. I believe that fighting racism with racism is not the appropriate or productive road to go down, but obviously your prism is different than mine.
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Those that are effective are the ones with the target on their backs. Don’t believe the hype.
 
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