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Its become impossible to objectively look at the nature of the censorship and not reach your conclusions.

They hide behind the curtain of claiming misinformation. When in reality it not so much misinformation as its just not their truth.

Im radically free speech. Even if its completely off the charts wacky or hateful. Id rather know who they are than have them silenced and hide in the shadows. And while im pro free speech, I also believe the right should be exercised with responsibility

the people yelling about misinformation, mostly legacy media don’t really care about misinformation, they care about being in control of the Information

these are the same people who believed Jussie Smollet
 
Electric cars and renewable energy sources are only elements of attacking the real crux of the problem -- the rising concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. The Earth has been storing away carbon for millions of years. It is naive to think that releasing all that in the form of a heat-concentrating gas over a couple of centuries will have no undesired effects.

And when coal hawks such as Joe Manchin preach "clean coal" they are implicitly admitting that the unbridled use of fossil fuels is a problem (and coal is the worst).
Norcaldad: see exhibit A :) :) :)
 
I don't think censorship is the right direction either and I think the more the left pushes on it the worse it's going to get. I know I'm fully capable to discern when Rogan is spewing BS and when he's not. I think the question I have, one I have no answer for, is how to reason about people believing everything someone like Alex Jones says. I know for a fact these people exist. I mean look at Qanon and all of that noise. I know conspiracy theorists have existed since the beginning of time, but in these days it feels much more accessible. Prior to the Internet it was just fringe beliefs. As far as opening it up for debate, I just don't see that happening -- I mean look at this thread.
I personally wouldnt give Alex Jones a platform no more than I would Farrakahn. We will always have the fringes on both ends, but yes the fringe koolaid is more accessible these days.

In terms of this forum, most of us agree on a substantive basis. I.e. pro-vax but anti-goverment mandate. We are really arguing over rhetoric and how we got to the same answer. Of course some just like to hurl insults because they are protected by a computer screen.
 
I would hope we would all choose Ronnies economy over Jimmies.

This is an issue that is more appropriate to throw shade at Ronnie for.

Well I blame Reaganomics and Clinton's deregulation for where we are today. Certainly Reagan had to clean up some of Carter's mess, but clearly trickle down economics is a failure.

Agree with you on your other point too.
 
Well I blame Reaganomics and Clinton's deregulation for where we are today. Certainly Reagan had to clean up some of Carter's mess, but clearly trickle down economics is a failure.

Agree with you on your other point too.

I think this is where Carlin's view on politicians is pretty spot on.
 
Well I blame Reaganomics and Clinton's deregulation for where we are today. Certainly Reagan had to clean up some of Carter's mess, but clearly trickle down economics is a failure.

Agree with you on your other point too.
What specific economic policies did you disagree with? The 1986 tax act was widely supported by the Dems. It eliminated a lot of tax shelters and loopholes available only to the wealthy and took millions of lower income families off the tax role. While reducing taxes for everyone.
 
What specific economic policies did you disagree with? The 1986 tax act was widely supported by the Dems. It eliminated a lot of tax shelters and loopholes available only to the wealthy and took millions of lower income families off the tax role. While reducing taxes for everyone.

I refused to pay (or even calculate) the AMT until the IRS sent me a friendly reminder every year.
 
 
Is that Governor moonbeam's bullet train? It's done?
Sorry but the majority of people want to progress, move on, collaborate on a better future not do things “Again” that didn’t work for all the first time. Your self-absorbed need for exclusivity and myopic insecurity are obvious.
 
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