Vaccine

kickingandscreaming said:
I have a few observations from our trip to FL I thought I'd share. I was in Fort Lauderdale.

Masks were optional inside. Some establishments appeared to require masks for employees but others definitely did not. There were still a significant number of people that wore masks inside stores - maybe about 1/3 or less. The bartender at the one spot we went to said a popular restaurant up the street couldn't open because they couldn't get workers. The place we went to twice on the beach was full. We sat outside at the bar both times and all the employees wore masks.

The flights were interesting. I have a lot of compassion for the flight attendants. Enforcing the mask policy obviously sucks. My wife was flying on business so she was up in first class. The guy next to her wasn't keeping his mask and/or didn't cover his nose. He kept asking for water so he could be actively drinking. She didn't complain about it but the flight attendant ended up giving my wife a $200 flight credit. My daughter and I sat on aisle seats across from each other. She had a woman and her son next to her. The woman was vaping and got caught. No big scene but the flight attendant told her the captain may put her on a no-fly list. I'm pretty sure the general population has moved toward the crazy side of the continuum since the pandemic. I had an empty middle seat - one of the few empty seats on the flight. I attribute that to my good living and virtue. My family does not agree.
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wow vaping ? Isn’t that also a huge fine ? I’ve never seen that

I vacationed in Florida ( 30a area , highly recommend) during summer . The only place I saw any mask wearing was the employees at a Lulu Lemon.
 
Desert Hound said:
So in the Phx area (actually the far east Valley) there is a new sports complex that just opened up. A ton of soccer fields in addition to facilities for many other sports. 20 turf and 15 grass soccer fields.

Restaurants/bars. Apparently you can sit at the bar/restaurant and watch any soccer game live from your seat by dialing in the field number.

Huge scoreboards for every field as seen below. Etc.

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I wish we had this here. Getting through one of my son's games would be so much easier, drink in hand, off the field, not wondering when he might goof one. Sometimes I'm not sure what traumatizes me more: COVID or his soccer games.
 
What up BTW, with the empty shelves in some of the blue check cities. My friend in DC went shopping last night and reported all the shelves were bare. My bro up in San Francisco said the same thing: not completely bare but pretty much Soviet. Here in LA the shelves are also sparsely stocked...but maybe sixty percent full. Are the panicked 1/3 going out and buying up all the water and TP again to hunker down (and is that enough to cause supermarket collapse in the deep blue check cities), or are supply lines beginning to strain due to so many people out sick?
 
EvilGoalie 21 said:
After that, for our kids keeping an eye out for re-emergent next things is likely to occupy some attention. But good long term immunity is a powerful thing.
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Possible but I'll put this in the same category of things as worrying about another Contagion scenario from a new bug, the big one, an asteroid striking earth, the AIs rising up and going cylon on us, and a nuclear war. Frightening, possible, some more likely than others, but not going to lose my mind over it.
 
Grace T. said:
What up BTW, with the empty shelves in some of the blue check cities. My friend in DC went shopping last night and reported all the shelves were bare. My bro up in San Francisco said the same thing: not completely bare but pretty much Soviet. Here in LA the shelves are also sparsely stocked...but maybe sixty percent full. Are the panicked 1/3 going out and buying up all the water and TP again to hunker down (and is that enough to cause supermarket collapse in the deep blue check cities), or are supply lines beginning to strain due to so many people out sick?
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In Phx the shelves are mainly stocked. But some items are sparse or not found at all. Sea Salt and kosher salt can be hard to find. Other certain spices are not around.

So most stuff is there, but there are rather noticeable product types not in stock or very limited.
 
Grace T. said:
What up BTW, with the empty shelves in some of the blue check cities. My friend in DC went shopping last night and reported all the shelves were bare. My bro up in San Francisco said the same thing: not completely bare but pretty much Soviet. Here in LA the shelves are also sparsely stocked...but maybe sixty percent full. Are the panicked 1/3 going out and buying up all the water and TP again to hunker down (and is that enough to cause supermarket collapse in the deep blue check cities), or are supply lines beginning to strain due to so many people out sick?
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I got up early this morning to finish my hunting for the winter. I'm done. Impossible to try and work through all this division. My HS pal just left DC for good. I drove on FWY this morning and no more rush hour. It's gone!!! Is everyone sick, scared and sipping on hot tea at home?
 
kickingandscreaming said:
Hahaha! Show me the rag that isn't in the tank for someone/some cause. Is what was reported true? If so, that's what matters.
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The article goes sideways from the point it declares that the sole purpose of a vaccine is to stop infection and stop transmission.

No mention at all of reducing the rate of infection or transmission. No mention at all of of preventing severe disease. The last is a rather large omission, considering that the drugs were approved on exactly that metric.

Beyond that, it’s not worth anyone’s time to figure out exactly how Bannon is lying to them this time. There are plenty of more reputable people to listen to. If it is at all legitimate, you can and will post an article from somewhere with real journalists.
 
dad4 said:
The article goes sideways from the point it declares that the sole purpose of a vaccine is to stop infection and stop transmission.

No mention at all of reducing the rate of infection or transmission. No mention at all of of preventing severe disease. The last is a rather large omission, considering that the drugs were approved on exactly that metric.

Beyond that, it’s not worth anyone’s time to figure out exactly how Bannon is lying to them this time. There are plenty of more reputable people to listen to. If it is at all legitimate, you can and will post an article from somewhere with real journalists.
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Odd, because Biden, Fauci and Maddow ALL made the same claim about the Covid “vaccine”.
 
Ellejustus said:
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You lost more of your shit-posting comrades today.

Awarded… posthumously. (reddit.com)
Recent nominee Grapes, who refused to drink the vaccine koolaid, is back for his award : HermanCainAward (reddit.com)
Meet Don, antivaxx/mask/mandate and misinformation FB shit-poster. Died in ICU of Covid 2 Jan. Was very concerned with losing his personal freedom during the pandemic and proudly chose to remain unvaccinated despite the risks. Rest in Freedom Don. : HermanCainAward (reddit.com)
Turgis and his wife misunderstood science, communism, socialism, unions, and so many other things. It cost him his life. : HermanCainAward (reddit.com)
Awarded… posthumously. (reddit.com)
It's a family trifecta: Mr. Gold joins his dad and uncle (also an HCA winner) in the COVID death stats. Please get vaxxed. : HermanCainAward (reddit.com)
Heather, a single mom of 4, didn't trust the vaccine, didn't get herself or her kids vaccinated. Now she's gone, and her oldest is unfortunately intubated. : HermanCainAward (reddit.com)
Awarded… posthumously. (reddit.com)
 
Kicker 2.0 said:
Odd, because Biden, Fauci and Maddow ALL made the same claim about the Covid “vaccine”.
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During some Sunday news show? Sure.

The actual biology concepts are hard. Fauci has 2 minutes. He’s not going to go down some deep rabbit hole explaining stochastic processes. He‘s going to talk in terms of what happens when the virus has to “stop” at each vaccinated person.

That doesn’t mean the models don’t use stochastic processes and probability distributions. It just means the talking heads are giving you the dumbed down version.
 
I heard a commercial this morning on radio and they are offering unlimited flu shots, boosters jabs, first time jabs, pills and more booster shots. Omicron booster is coming and a new booster in the horizon for Flurona. Their going really, really big for stock piling more shots for all of you guys who want them. Listen to what he says about folks like me, folks like you and those folks stuck in the middle and sitting on the fence. Three types of folks now according to the other nerd, CEO Bourla. Folks like me have a mindset that is fanatical ((basically, I love God too much, my blood is sacred to my bloodline and my body will not comply with jabs for life mindset in order to participate in life's riches and pleasures)). The other mindset is folks like many of you here, who want maximum protection, willing to pay to play and will do whatever your doctor tells you to do and will booster up for the rest of your life on earth as long you play by their rules. No way were going back to freedom of choice. The CEO forgot to mention what you get if your a fanatic like me or if your obedient and get shots. I will share. If U R A crazy ass fanatic like yours's truly and think with both sides of your brain, you will lose your job and your ability to buy or sell. If you have the mindset of compliance to rule makers, well then, you can go back to normal, as long as you take boosters and wear a mask for the rest of your short time on planet earth. What a life worth living here folks.

 
dad4 said:
During some Sunday news show? Sure.

The actual biology concepts are hard. Fauci has 2 minutes. He’s not going to go down some deep rabbit hole explaining stochastic processes. He‘s going to talk in terms of what happens when the virus has to “stop” at each vaccinated person.

That doesn’t mean the models don’t use stochastic processes and probability distributions. It just means the talking heads are giving you the dumbed down version.
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So OK for some, but “sideways” for others. What exactly is the distinction, political affiliation?

oh Biden was in a Press Conference and Maddow was parroting it on her show….
 
dad4 said:
The article goes sideways from the point it declares that the sole purpose of a vaccine is to stop infection and stop transmission.

No mention at all of reducing the rate of infection or transmission. No mention at all of of preventing severe disease. The last is a rather large omission, considering that the drugs were approved on exactly that metric.

Beyond that, it’s not worth anyone’s time to figure out exactly how Bannon is lying to them this time. There are plenty of more reputable people to listen to. If it is at all legitimate, you can and will post an article from somewhere with real journalists.
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Where would one find "real journalists"? If the quote in the headline (all I read) is true, it is certainly better than some of what you were supporting on CNN where the headline was misleading, at best. You excused it because it supported mask-wearing, said something about the problem of having non-experts report on the virus, and indicated you basically put your own interpretation on the stories because of that. Those journalists? My question is if the quote from Dr. Clive Dix from is true, why aren't "real journalists" reporting it?
 
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